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Bara, I've read the discussion about why to vote you, but did you read at all any of my reasoning as to why NOT to vote you.
I am paying very close attention to this game.
So mafia needs what, 2 mislynches to win this game?
I don't want to vote on you for the fact that you are probably town, because I am reading you as town!
Yes, the activity has been super low the last day.
But I have been posting, not dropping off. There's just nothing to read from this thread.
Barakos- I love the reasoning on SL- does he really post less once he feels safe?
Also, again, let me say this. We need to look OUTSIDE the green checks. Whoever is town needs to realize this.
There are many people putting the world that there HAS to be a godfather between me and barakos, but it could very well be both of us as town for how town I am reading barakos. If you lynch barakos, and he flips green, you are almost always going to lynch me from how everyone is thinking, and when I flip green, town loses.
The only way this doesn't happen is if plots confirms himself and actually gets a rb on mafia kp, and we go on the person who delivered the kp. As of, the world i see being proposed is not good.
Now let's look at dis: Dis has a very large filter. It hurt my eyes to try and read through it all.
I liked dis up to the point where I saw the interaction between boxerfred and dis.
So let me refresh everyone's memories on why I thought dis and BF were mafia.
So BF is doing his thing......pushing his read on BM....votiing on BM. Then BAM.
Out of nowhere, Dis makes a case as to why I am scum.BF then unvotes BM and goes, this case might have merit, Ima unvote my TOP SCUM READ, and sheep you.
Whaaaattt? Why would a new mafia player do that, unless dis and BF were mafia together? This was my first reaction to what I saw. It's still been in the back of my mind the entire game,and the fact that both dis and BF are still alive scares me, but I've been trying to look at the game objectively.
See the reason why I make connections like that before flips is because im hardwired to do so. I play a lot of video mafia. We do not get flips until the game ends. So everything we do is based off of reads on other people, and connections between people, vote logic, etc.
The rest of dis's filter is actually pretty townie. HE seems like he is looking at the game from a townie perspective, but is wrong on a lot of reads. Being wrong doesn't make you mafia though. So he probably wouldnt be my lynch today, but he could just be coming off as super townie and steamrolling us as mafia..
+ Show Spoiler +JOKE TIME: What if BF is the GF? hehehehe
Will give my read on BF and SL here shortly. wanted to go ahead and get this out for discussion
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So.
By POE- mafia are BF and SL.
I think those would be great lynches.
I also really want to sheep ticktock and vote plots... because fuck plots for making absolutely horrible roleblocks.
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On June 02 2015 00:46 Tictock wrote:
@ 27nb
What do you think about my points that Plots and Bara have spent most of the day deflecting and not looking for scum?
You keep promising to do reading and get back to us, care to make good on that offer?
Can you check how many posts Bara and plots have made today which offers no signs of scum hunting? And when they do mention people being potential scum... is it consistent, or is it all over the place, like everyone could still be scum?
I believe your points are correct. But I'm still reading BAra as town.
I dont think anyone besides me and you are actually actively looking for scum. There's just a lot of lurkers, and it makes it hard for me to vote right now..
Can you check how many posts they made? Lol I think it is silly you ask of me to do this, seeing as you are the one putting it out there.
Ive already commented on the whole Bara and plots thinking if bara gets lynched and flips green, it confirmes plots.
Actually, no it doesnt. it is a stupid play to do that. All it does confirm is that bara was actually greenchecked by the cop. Nothing else.
I am currently reading through SL and BFs filters, but SL has 20 pages, and BF is high up there with 10. So its going to take me a while to go through them.
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@Dis- see that is why I read you as town. The link actually sent me to a read on why you went between me and sulf as mafia.
Your voting logic was from a townie perspective. Even if you went from voting one townie to another, you were atleast reconsidering your vote. Mafia would have just tunneled on me and been like, oh well. She was scummy. And for that I like you.
I scrolled down and read your case on BF.
So I agree he changed his vote to me after SL did. But he also was considering changing his vote to me after you voted me that one day, which made me read you two as partners. Im not sure how him sheeping other people makes him mafia.You would have to say him sheeping you for voting me also makes him mafia.
The one thing I see from BF is that if he is with SL. I agree that SL just dropped off of his scum list for no reason. And plots added on exactly why? I'll look through his filter to see if I can find a connection anywhere. But SL dropping off of his scumlist like that could be that in qt, SL told him to stop bussing.
I could easily see something like that.
As of now, besides the few problems I have with your case, I really think pressure needs to go on to BF.
##Vote: Boxerfred
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On June 02 2015 01:05 Tictock wrote:
Tomorrow might be 2 late
Imagine D5 the people left are Dis, BF, SL, Plots and Bara.
If I'm right, and SL keeps being obstinate with his weak reads on Bara and Plots, then I see Mafia having a free win tomorrow.
And the only thing I have to say to that is.....
We aren't lynching me, so your final 5 is wrong.
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On June 02 2015 01:17 Tictock wrote:
Which was why I thought maybe you'd care to finally do that reading you always promised us...
If you can't tell, im reading. Has anything I've said not shown that?
Like read my freaking cases. My interactions with people. Like...fuck filter diving. Look at what is being talked about now.
This game is frustrating me to no end.
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On June 02 2015 01:22 Tictock wrote:
Sorry, I'm just in the same boat as you 27nb.
I've done a ton of reading and thinking putting my cases together. Yet everyone just dismisses it as some tunneled nonsense. My feelings that people aren't reading comes from the fact I don't see good reasoning as to why my case is wrong. Just fear that it COULD be wrong.
Yeah t could be wrong, and that's what we are trying to avoid. Wrong lynches.
I actually really like your reasoning on Bara.
I'm wondering if im just being pocketed by the green checks on us.
Bara coming out like he did with the whole- oh im rb. my bad.- thing is perfect opportune play.
But consider this, Tictock. If bara is actually gf, why did he propose people lynching him today to confirm plots?
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On June 02 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote:
Woops sorry, wasn't done.
Here he is suggesting that the only was it makes sense to consider him scum is if you are crazy. Is that really True?
If so then were Bats and plots crazy to use their night actions on him? They much have had solid reasons to suspect him, those night actions are important.
I guess I can see what you are saying. But idk. I'll reread their interaction there.
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On June 02 2015 01:35 Tictock wrote:
Please do, I really felt like they were clearly defending each other and supporting each other through my cases.
At the same time, this could also have been a ploy to bury my case under several pages of posts.
They started posting together near the end of D3, and keep doing it anytime I mention them both as a scum team.
Alright, say we do lynch one of them, and that's a big IF.
Which one would be lynched? As in which do you think is more detrimental to have in town if they are mafia?
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SL, notice how everyone is calling everyone else scum.
Regardless of your voting on BF you could be mafia with BF.
Bussing isn't wrong in this type of setup.
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I tried to bring up a bf/dis team, and got shot down for it and called scum?
So why do you think you can propose it now?
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So you think that both mafia jumped on the bw for Scott?
I mentioned atleast one mafia could have been on the scott vote, and if im not mistaken didn't you say that its unlikely?
Why does it seem like you are just trying to get a mislynch some where?
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On May 25 2015 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
If im mafia whos my partner here? everyones voted me at some point of the game now.
Me and bunnies would not be that obv.
I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first
Okay, I was wrong. It was actually disinfo who said that, so that paints you in a good light.
I'm going through your filter and this jumped out on me.
Again, it seems like you're just trying to put lynches in random places.
Oh i could be with BM, so lets vote him first.
It sounds like a "Once BM flips as town, you'll know I'm town too."
Any thoughts on this, SL?
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On June 02 2015 03:19 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
Sl being useless isn't evidence of him being scum
SL is useless as town too.
Which is why im questioning him.
He says he is giving evidence, but i want more evidence than just oh they voted after me on scott.
I want to see his thought process. I want to know if it cmes from a town perspective or a mafia perspective.
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Gah, ticktock is really making me rethink the bara check....
Could the game really be that difficult?!
lajglkqajglqkejg;lqer
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I have to go run a few errands around town. ill be back before EOD. As of now, im voting on BF.
I'm actually considering both SL and Bara as alternative lynches.
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On June 02 2015 03:28 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
Try and answer those questions I just posted to SL.
Tell me that you really think plots is an RB this game.
Based on the blocks he has done this game, i want to say he is another mafia RB, fakeclaiming being RB, or just a dumb town rb.
I want to believe one of the first two.
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On June 02 2015 04:51 Barakos wrote:
I'm semi-around, will look into the thread from time to time... Don't expect me to react on the case on me, I said, I wouldn't fight getting lynched, since I almost got the feeling, town can't be saved unless tictock is brought off of his stupid case, so getting lynched is kinda my wincondition here... sad but true.
I am also completely frustrated with this game, since I don't see town winning with tictock tunneling and the only way to stop this tunnel is me dieing. (Or plots, but we can't have plots die, so rather me.)
This makes me want to vote you. Like, you aren't even trying to find mafia. Why?
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Actually you know what.
Do something
##Unvote
##Vote: Barakos
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On June 02 2015 04:39 boxerfred wrote:
Nah Barakos is seriously town. It's bunnies we gotta go for. I mean for real, it's bunnies and dis/sl as maf. Tictoc's case is way too tryhard. I'm sick of you townies still believing disinformation on his reads and pushes. FFS he's pushing me since ages. Well if I flip green you can just vote bunnies+dis
it's really stupid at this point you guys manage to so screw it up
Why is it me and dis?
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