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On May 22 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 22 2015 22:22 disformation wrote:Okay. bunnies time. On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP:
Scum
#Vote: Sicklucker Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo. On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia
##Vote Sicklucker Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia? I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on. Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either. On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide. However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today. I see a bus in the midst. From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"? On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far? I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this. On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Give me substance BM! I know you can do it! I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily. On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.
Or maybe atleast 2 days Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like. On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts I agree What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason This is a great question! + Show Spoiler +And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this? + Show Spoiler + When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like. In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now. Okay, so let's look at this post. First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you. Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town". Troll post=troll vote. However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town. So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment. OK I like your defense. Except for one point. Can you explain this ? Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 22:22 disformation wrote:On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts I agree What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason This is a great question! + Show Spoiler +And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this? + Show Spoiler + When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like.
You mean Dis saying that it looks like a deflection?
Meh. I mean, I get where he is coming at. Rereading, I could definitely see it as a deflections, but that's not what I was trying to portray. I tend to just type things, and deal with reprocussions later.
I think it would have been funnier and not pushed on if I actually suceeded at posting the spoilers right.
Like, how the fuck do you spoiler.
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On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote:Ah cool, you are here bunnies.  Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so let's look at this post.
First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you. Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you. Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote. Yup. That is why I called it NAI. Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. Looking forward to see that. Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.
So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment. I really like this answer. Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card?
So for me, it was weird how he entered into the thread.
I don't like to use entrances as alignment indicative but I just don't understand why he would enter with this post here:
On May 22 2015 17:30 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool While I understand that, I always thought yolo'ing votes on the first day is a stupid thing to do :/
It's as if he is trying to enter the thread in a funny way, but falled short.
On May 22 2015 17:32 boxerfred wrote:That'd be sick luck if you actually got a scum guy pinned down with that vote notice the pun d'oh
Again, random funny-ish second post.
IT was mostly just these two posts that stood out to me as I was reading. As you further progress in his filter, he actually starts making reads, questioning, but Im not sure what to make of it. He pushes a bit on BM, but then unvotes after a case made by Dis on me. I'm not sure how this one case changes his read from BM is mafia to I am mafia over BM. HE doesn't really explain it. Just unvotes, and then says he'll read the case on me later.
This makes me think there is a HIGH connection between Dis and BF, which makes me want to lynch them both.
And makes me think I might be wrong on Dis....
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On May 22 2015 23:05 Barakos wrote:
Okay... i can see, where you are coming from with that townread on sulfurus...
Might have been an ok-ish read at the time, he wrote his answer.
He just hasn't done anything since and the evidence he posted also doesn't hold up (see disformations post on bms accusations towards him).
Speaking of disformation: Why do you disagree with my push on him?
Granted: His case on you looks better than anything he did before but still i get the feeling, that his mindset is more focussed on looking towny than doing actual town-work.
I just thought he was town for what he has been posting and questioning.
Though, I am reconsidering on this.
If you see my above post. Idk, that's just super weird.
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On May 22 2015 23:15 Barakos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 23:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 22 2015 23:05 Barakos wrote:
Okay... i can see, where you are coming from with that townread on sulfurus...
Might have been an ok-ish read at the time, he wrote his answer.
He just hasn't done anything since and the evidence he posted also doesn't hold up (see disformations post on bms accusations towards him).
Speaking of disformation: Why do you disagree with my push on him?
Granted: His case on you looks better than anything he did before but still i get the feeling, that his mindset is more focussed on looking towny than doing actual town-work. I just thought he was town for what he has been posting and questioning. Though, I am reconsidering on this. If you see my above post. Idk, that's just super weird. So your read on him changed on a connection you think you saw between him and boxerfred and since you suspect boxer, you now also suspect him, too?
My read hasn't changed. I'm reconsidering. Still think he is town. I don't necessarily understand your push on him, something I have to reread.
I do want to see BF's response to why he suddenly switch his vote.
So the way I'm looking at it in my head is this:
BF as newb mafia votes on BM just to be voting on someone...tlaks a bit, doesnt really push on BM, then mafia partner comes out with a case on me (town), and BF is like, ooo this looks good. Lets unvote, and go with mafia partner here.
Im a video mafia player. I try and see connections between people because we don't do flips.
And i see a connection there.
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On May 23 2015 01:21 Breshke wrote:
Just a few things before bed won't be very detailed. I like disfos post where he is like "yeah they said I didn't come to any conclusions and they are right" (I'll quote it in the morning if ppl want) it felt very honest and I like that.
I'm not lynching bats today my mind meld with him about the SL pressure was too good. I would also like to specifically know bunnies read on bats.
I also am warming up to an SL lynch again if he hasn't done stuff by the time I wake up because I don't want to fall into the trap of lyching new people for playing like new people even though that kind of makes it easier for scum.
Lastly boxerfred you said you have said you have some experience with mafia. Where you play is it normally majority lynch mechanic instead of plurality?
To answer your question, I've called bats mafia in a lot of games he was town, so I won't say I have the best read.
But I will put bats neutral until I can reread filter and see if he's actually done something, cause off the top of my head, I can't remember anything.
@dis- what was your question for me, I can't seem to find it.
@SL- who said confimed town then.... I thought it was you. Tho I do realize that my vote did come on the 1st thing.
Scum slip guys...scum slip...
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On May 23 2015 06:28 disformation wrote:Ugh. Reread boxerfred. Should move to scum lean. I see nothing that furthers town agenda in his filter. Only reacts when poked. Posting pattern is pretty lurky. Evades most of the questions anyway. No clue who he would vote for...  No idea what batsnacks sees in him. Which also makes me wonder a bit about batsnacks, who I otherwise have as a town lean. I wish I could see but I feel so blind...
Why the distance from BF now, it seems?
Like, when I ping you out for a connection you seem now to be so upset.
The Ugh. Reread.... Basically when he is being pinged out for being scum.
This is all just scummy from you
Main dish huh? I've been told I'm pretty delectable 
As for the SL read, give me a few hours. Just got off of work, and been working for 8 of those hours between then, I forgot what I was even going to say on SL. Rereading a bit
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Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for
##Vote:Disformation
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On May 23 2015 08:32 disformation wrote:OMGUS much? And how do you ping me out, when I am the most active person in the thread? I don't really understand. The Ugh thing was more of the lines of "uh right, reread the thing and didn't like it". TBH boxerfred is still a wonky read for me. *shrugs* incidentally... did I hit a nerve with the connection between Sulfurus and you? Sidenote: I can see a lot of people voting for me. Not sure why though. xD Feel like I had to do a lot of stuff, since acitivity was a bit disappointing to me and I won't be around much tomorrow.
I'll say this to anyone who is reading the game. Cause i actually just told something this not to long ago.
Most active =/= town
Actually, it is easy for scum to be highly active in a game and push lynches in the direction which they wish to go. Though there are some mafia who tend to like to lurk and not be in the spotlight, you could very well be the former.
OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember?
What connection between sulfurus and me?
I called sulfurus town. Not much to it.
I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town.
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On May 23 2015 08:42 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 08:32 disformation wrote:OMGUS much? And how do you ping me out, when I am the most active person in the thread? I don't really understand. The Ugh thing was more of the lines of "uh right, reread the thing and didn't like it". TBH boxerfred is still a wonky read for me. *shrugs* incidentally... did I hit a nerve with the connection between Sulfurus and you? Sidenote: I can see a lot of people voting for me. Not sure why though. xD Feel like I had to do a lot of stuff, since acitivity was a bit disappointing to me and I won't be around much tomorrow. I'll say this to anyone who is reading the game. Cause i actually just told something this not to long ago. Most active =/= town Actually, it is easy for scum to be highly active in a game and push lynches in the direction which they wish to go. Though there are some mafia who tend to like to lurk and not be in the spotlight, you could very well be the former. OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember? What connection between sulfurus and me? I called sulfurus town. Not much to it. I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town. Hmm. Okay. It seems I don't understand your post. Let us try this again: Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 06:28 disformation wrote:Ugh. Reread boxerfred. Should move to scum lean. I see nothing that furthers town agenda in his filter. Only reacts when poked. Posting pattern is pretty lurky. Evades most of the questions anyway. No clue who he would vote for... No idea what batsnacks sees in him. Which also makes me wonder a bit about batsnacks, who I otherwise have as a town lean. I wish I could see but I feel so blind... Why the distance from BF now, it seems? Like, when I ping you out for a connection you seem now to be so upset. The Ugh. Reread.... Basically when he is being pinged out for being scum. This is all just scummy from you Main dish huh? I've been told I'm pretty delectable As for the SL read, give me a few hours. Just got off of work, and been working for 8 of those hours between then, I forgot what I was even going to say on SL. Rereading a bit What do you mean with pinging me out for a connection? I've read this as: "you were kinda waffling about/hiding and I asked you for a opinion on x". And again: I seemed upset because I didn't liked what I have found... Can you maybe rephrase your question or accusation?
The connection between you and BF.
So BF vote don BM right, but you come out with your case on me, and he unnvotes with just saying that he likes you post, but will reread late, right?
With BF being a newbie, this just seems like, hey my mafia partner made a case, maybe I should follow it- type of thing to me. That is the connection I see.
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On May 23 2015 08:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember?
What connection between sulfurus and me?
I called sulfurus town. Not much to it.
I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town. I was implying a possible mafia connection between him and you via: Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.
Or maybe atleast 2 days Which is imo way stronger than you giving him a town read. Especially for that one post (which had a mistake in it).
I see me giving a read on sulfurus, but has sulfurus actually given a read on me? *Reads sulfurus filter* Nope
So not sure how you can see a connection, except a one sided connection.
Top newbie read- he was a newbie, commented on a question I asked, and his answer seemed genuine at the time
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On May 23 2015 09:09 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 08:44 disformation wrote:On May 23 2015 08:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember?
What connection between sulfurus and me?
I called sulfurus town. Not much to it.
I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town. I was implying a possible mafia connection between him and you via: On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.
Or maybe atleast 2 days Which is imo way stronger than you giving him a town read. Especially for that one post (which had a mistake in it). I see me giving a read on sulfurus, but has sulfurus actually given a read on me? *Reads sulfurus filter* Nope So not sure how you can see a connection, except a one sided connection. Top newbie read- he was a newbie, commented on a question I asked, and his answer seemed genuine at the time Hmm... you are right. I should demote you from main dish status and give that to BF. Think I got to excited about the possible TMI Slip by Sulfurus and the possibility of getting two mafia out of it, if there was a connection to you. Oh, well this bodes well for tomorrow. At least you people will have something to talk about. xD
What TMI slip?
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Okay, I'll be around lurkishly for like an hour. My best friend is on her way over for a girls night out....and she's driving from 5 hours away
I'll answer anything posed to me prob when I'm completely drunk.
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On May 23 2015 11:24 batsnacks wrote:
I really hate the activity based reads but meh plot is never the lynch on effort alone. I also hate this disformation wagon. Scotts is the better place for any vote... but... again whatev because disformation doesn't need me to defend him.
I agree here. Most of plots reads were based on activity.
Activity levels do not necessarily indicate scum or town. Content does.
newbies remember that!
On May 23 2015 13:25 sicklucker wrote:Lets look at bats read progresion on me Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker 0 scum read on me 100% presure voteShow nested quote +On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.
I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothingShow nested quote +On May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing. Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setimentYa ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play
I actually like this post on BS that SL has made.
@BS do you have a flow of thoughts besides this shit that lead you to SL being scum?
Also, Why Sulf?
I still think sulf is town.
On May 23 2015 17:14 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 04:58 disformation wrote:On May 23 2015 04:43 boxerfred wrote:On May 23 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:Also. Since you like my case but see a lot of town in bunnies, where do you place bunnies now? Who would you lynch as of now and why? I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information, can't really tell if that's for scum or for town. Tending towards town somehow though. I want to see a bit more fire! Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information... unless said information turns out to be confusing or distracting for town. Do you get that feeling from bunnies? Also nothing on the second part of the question... still no idea who to vote for I guess? Keeping options as open as possible makes you look a bit scummy here. Though granted, I don't look much better right now. xD (for the record: I have a question for bunnies and another one for Sulfurus. Also still haven't seen much from plotspot and scott. Also suspicious of BM. Wouldn't lynch bunnies atm, the others could be candidates for that.) Following your words, you're trying to subtly persuade me that bunnies is not scum: "I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information" vs. "Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information". Which would be strange since you made a case about him that made me put myself into the fire by initially unvoting BM and following your case.So either you're just testing the waters, thus confusing many people (pointing out you lean towards scum/sk) or you're dead serious and have a flaw in that post regarding my person. So, no, I don't get that feeling from bunnies.
I'm also removing BF from the lynch today because of his recent strings of posts. He is actually offering up some new information, questioning dis- who I think is very scummy- and it might be a ploy to get pressure off of himself, but I like the questioning and what he points out.
I think if anything, there is a mafia between Dis and BF but not both.
So, I am going to keep my vote on Dis for now. I'm going camping, so I may/may not be around for EOD.
I love the pressure on scott! An afk, not doing anything. Keep up the good work.
That was seirous btw. I want to see more from scott, and although I think Sulf is town, more from Sulf as well.
But, idk about putting votes on someone who isnt here to defend himself. He'll likely get modkilled or replaced by someone more active. I think we need to lynch someone scummy who has actually been playing, because I highly doubt all the mafia are in the nonvoters and afks.
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We have 15 mins to EOD right? And scott still hasnt shown up. Can anyone give a a semi vote count?
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Meh, hopefully Scott is mafia.
I'm not switching my vote.
Not like he is playing anyway
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On May 24 2015 06:52 Tictock wrote:
I'm actually really not sure what to make of the scott thing now, I was sure he was bound to show up before EoD and at least post... something. Like most of the votes on him until the last ~5 hours were pretty clear pressure votes, just wanting to get him to be active.
Yeah, exactly!
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On May 24 2015 06:55 Tictock wrote:Well.. there's only one thing to do at a time like this... 
Do you think mafia are on scott?
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Good cop checks/vig shots
Dis
BF
Sulf(rather cop check)
And Breshke (Cop check)
What do we think of BM as a vig shot?
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On May 24 2015 11:21 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 11:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Good cop checks/vig shots
Dis
BF
Sulf(rather cop check)
And Breshke (Cop check)
What do we think of BM as a vig shot? Why do I make this list? Otherwise add SL and yourself and I like it. I really fail in understanding why SL tells the vigi to claim so we can discuss the shot instead of doing exactly what you just did then.
I noticed that too. However I don't think it is necessarily a bad play. Regardless if vigi comes out today, vigi should probably come out tomorrow after the shot.
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On May 24 2015 11:27 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 11:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Good cop checks/vig shots
Dis
BF
Sulf(rather cop check)
And Breshke (Cop check)
What do we think of BM as a vig shot? BF? Wth you were reading him town EoD. Why are you suddenly suspecting him again? I'm having the hardest time following your thinking the past ~30 hours. Also regarding SL's notion. I was overreacting at the time, but literally moments after the flip suggesting a Blue claim was so WTF I had to jump on it. Also I don't like the tone of it, but I suppose it's what to expect from SL. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker.
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few Yea the tone of , "Vig claim so we can figure out your shot and you'll die for town, tnx bye" Is pretty bad. Still credit where credit is due, it's not a bad suggestion. Vig only has one shot so their role is fulfilled just by using it, and since RB is gone they can for sure use it. Vig sacrificing themselves to ensure no other blue roles get picked off tonight is also a decent plan of action. Roles like Doc and Cop are very valuable to keep alive, whereas Vig and Vet are more for gathering information for town. Just continuing my line of though regarding roles, Masons should almost never claim asfaik as they are VT with slightly more info than normal VT. No idea how to regard a potential SK. If we have 2 kills tonight and no Vig claim tonight/D2 then SK is real possibility... at the same time I could see that opening a window for Scum to claim Vig in that case and SK is happy with that since it keeps their role hidden from town... Ok no more on that since I'm pretty sure I'm almost lost in WIFOM.
BF is not because I'm thinking he is mafia, but because many others are.
This will give us a better idea of what is going on in the game via who BF is pushing on, and who is pushing on BF.
I much prefer one of the others as a cop check. But he is on the vig/cop list.
BM as a vig shot cause, idk. expected more...Found mafia in one lurker....Why not BM?
Not a hard read, more of gut read, but im gonna look more into him
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