EPTI also poked him a few times that he was ignoring me over his 27nb case.
I was like "Dude, I voted for NB D1, why don't you care what I think in thread?"
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Tictock
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I also poked him a few times that he was ignoring me over his 27nb case. I was like "Dude, I voted for NB D1, why don't you care what I think in thread?" | ||
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Are you like convinced Sul is scum? I'd really rather not lynch an inactive again. But maybe you guys got him pegged better than me | ||
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Just wondering, you did read the post I made about Sul right? Did you reach a similar conclusion as bats? Plots seems like me when I was tunneling you, but on steroids. It's too weird a play for scum so I figure he's just pissed off town. | ||
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On May 28 2015 21:43 plotspot wrote: And I already explained why an RB, Mason and Cop is fair to Mafia RB, Mafia Godfather and Mafia Goon. Scumteam Tictock Sulfurus just had bad luck that we just hit Barakos (both me and Bats), Rels (me) and 27ninja. Or is there any doubt to whether 27ninja might be Godfather? Her cluelessness simply makes it extremely unlikely. You even see now that Tictock tries hard to deflect from voting for Sulfurus for whatever reason you want. And I posted a post about Sulfurus just somewhere above that gives her away as Mafia, especially if you know the setup now. If this setup is correct, I still say that 27nb is the best target once again today. Pretty much any possibility of GF being a mafia role means we cannot take Bats greencheck on her seriusly and haveto fall back on what we already know. Which is really just everything we were scumming her for D2. ## Unvote ## Vote: 27ninjabunnies + Show Spoiler + Hosts, I feel like this may be a horrid day of vote swapping. I apologize in advance | ||
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Tictock
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Your claim as Town RB was serious correct? | ||
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You've been clearly scumming me since much earlier than N2, why didn't you block me? | ||
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What was your reasoning RBing him in the first place? | ||
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On May 28 2015 22:13 Tictock wrote: So your logic here is that by roleblocking Bara you've proven him town? What was your reasoning RBing him in the first place? @Plots actually ignore the non bolded question | ||
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Thanks, that does make that setup idea seem too town heavy. I'll remember to try and break things down like that in the future. | ||
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I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment. I would have held to this thinking as well, but once the role speculation started to get too out of hand I realized it was in fact doing town more harm than good. And thanks to a thing known as "a flip" Bre is in fact the only confirmed blue role at this moment in the game. It's up to town to decide if the people claiming roles have been acting in line with that role, and to sniff out any fake claims that have inconsistencies. I think he still missed my question. PLOTSPOT!! What was your reasoning RBing him in the first place? The "him" = Barakos | ||
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##Vote: Plotspot On May 28 2015 22:52 plotspot wrote: If Sulfurus flips green feel free to lynch me next, because obviously then I haven't got the game solved and wasted all your time. Do we have a deal? 100% scum logic when we are 3 mislynches from a Mafia win. Town should not be willing to stake their lives like this as if they are in fact wrong it sets mafia up so well. | ||
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I'm a little biased here though, so I encourage Town to see if they think plots claim holds. I believe he is Mafia RB trying to fakeclaim Town RB. RB,RB, Goon vs Cop & Masons sounds fairly balanced, no? | ||
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On May 29 2015 06:28 batsnacks wrote: I would tell you this as either alignment: 4 blues in this setup is unusual. Meaning it wouldn't be terrible for you to be at least slightly suspicious of my claim. I think tiktok is objectively the most likely to be telling the truth. If you don't understand why you can ask. We should definitely -not- avoid talking about it. Mafia is never going to cc anything for the rest of the game it would be suicide at this point. If you don't understand why you can ask. Here is every possibility:
Assume anyone lying is mafia. Nothing else is possible. Bats is taking the right approach here. While it would be nice to just assume that all the claims are true and then focus on the people remaining it is also a suicide play for town. Once again town needs to avoid any more mislynchs and so we need to have solid reasoning as to why we believe and unfonfirmed role claim, otherwise this is too easy of a place for scum to hide. On May 29 2015 06:09 disformation wrote: Yeah, I agree that we should stop talking about roles and claims that much and just lynch the scummiest person around. I agree, to an extent (what i said above). I've also been asking town to critically think about this point all day. Even among the claims, is there somebody who is doing scummy things? Once again, I'm a bit biased so I'm not going to make a case here. But Town NEEDS to consider these points, we cannot afford to limit our pool of potential scum without good reason. | ||
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If you even have the slightest doubt that I am not Bre's partner. I'm here, ask away. I still need to look through your filter and double check that I believe your Cop claim. Besides that one slim point I made, I really was willing to believe it earlier. It matches up with your play being somewhat lurky and you not always giving us great reasoning for stuff. I also think you doubting your own checks now given unknown setups means you are more willing to look at this game critically, which makes you obv town. | ||
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@ BF You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please? I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched. I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. | ||
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Anything in particular? We had an almost 200 msg QT. Near EoN we both agreed he was likely the Night kill, so he left a bit of his legacy thoughts in there. He made some great points as to why you were likely town + Show Spoiler + through a similar line of thinking to why I'm suggesting Sul could be town Bre's point about Bats being very likely Town was that Bats supported and is reading Town pretty hard in SL. Again, scum needs mislynches at this point in the game. So by townreading SL you've made it harder to push him as a potential target without some grandiose flip of that read. By eliminating someone who is good mislynch material we can deduce you are very likely town. Also Bre helped me understand why SL was likely not a role. When I was tunneling him SL did in fact give up a bit and claim VT. If he was a role it seems very unlikely he would have done this. Linking that back to Bats being town, if Bats were scum he would know that SL is not a role from this and would be that much more likely to try and use him as a mislynch later. That was the heavier stuff we talked about last night phase. | ||
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27nb Sul Bara Plots Not 100% town, but very likely town, again in rough order Bats BF Dis SL This was obviusly before Bara said he got RB's and before | ||
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