doesn't explain the "which of your reads is real" comment but i'm just going to put a pin in this for now -_-
i don't really mind people not getting things or even calling me scum for it, cause i've been jumping around a lot more with the posting restriction than normal, but you dropped that read awfully fast for what seemed like very little reason...makes me itch -_- like if you legit didn't see the rest of the paragraph you bolded the sentence in cause you're skimming like a dolt, whatever, but what i said shouldn't have changed your mind, which is why i'm having trouble with it -_-
meh. anyone else find that odd or am i just keying in on inconsequentials?
i'm going to assume that was meant for me and not ksc -_-
not sure why you seem so damn timid around me, ksc, if you really think i'm scum. i really don't think i'm that scary a person. can tell you one thing, though...that half-assed bullshit isn't going to get me lynched any more than onegu's non-points lol ><
okay -_- clearly i'm doing something wrong if everyone and their brother is scumreading me -_-
that like never happens
i could just beat you over the head gb with the idiocy of me being your pretty scum team's chosen buss but whatever. i'd rather hear where your scumread comes from, frankly -_-
On May 12 2015 14:08 rsoultin wrote: okay -_- clearly i'm doing something wrong if everyone and their brother is scumreading me -_-
that like never happens
i could just beat you over the head gb with the idiocy of me being your pretty scum team's chosen buss but whatever. i'd rather hear where your scumread comes from, frankly -_-
I don't think you're scum o.o
i'm getting an inordinate amount of scumreads, ls lol ><
onegu...eh as either alignment it wouldn't surprise me, but i still want to lynch him, so not concerned about that
ksc...his scumread is weird...the entire progression doesn't even look like a scumread...lol >< no one's commented on it, though, and i'd like them to >< could easily be scum just for not sticking to his guns or really committing to it when i'm in-thread
but gb i'm pretty sure is town which makes me so it would be nice if he explained. especially considering he hasn't mentioned it before
On May 12 2015 22:38 LightningStrike wrote: Palmar I think Sandroba is town since he did nothing at all the last time he was scum with me in JOAT except for a shitty cop check shannie trying go for a double bus on me and Sandroba and this game he been doing lots of analyses so I believe quite frankly he's town. BTW I will take a look at RebirthofLegend's meta and see if it matches what people said of him being lazy as town.
Please do not post your findings in the thread because I don't care about shitty meta.
Thank you.
Since when are you so abrasive towards LS? Wtf is wrong with you?
o.0 so much this...normally when you disagree with him you post something along the lines of "have i told you how much you're my favorite player?"
and he says something like "o.0 yes?"
lol ><
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On May 12 2015 22:21 batsnacks wrote: ##vote Sandroba
I found probable mafia. Unfortunately I can't explain it without claiming. It's weird though because sandroba did nothing last game as mafia and now he's talking a lot.
i know what you're doing lol >< but my question to you is think about it...i don't think only one alignment would miss it for a pretty good reason, yeah? like, balancing probabilities sure i get it, but if you don't really think he's scum for any other reason...
also, just to verify that i really do know what you're doing and not just assume that i know what you're doing, can you confirm your read on viva for me? preferably after a filter-dive
On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote: you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS
But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game.
Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon).
Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too.
On May 11 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote: Every time I say something really dumb the thread dies.
fixed it for you.
I wouldn't mind killing jat either.
Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say:
On May 12 2015 19:47 Palmar wrote: I don't really think BM is mafia but I haven't read too much up on the game.
Any time frame we should expect the reading to start? I enjoy playing games with you, but not when I can't actually discuss important points with you and get your input.
You're mafia so why do you care?
If you believe so, I want you to tell me why that is. I can't tell if you are trolling/tunneling aimlessly or you actually believe what you are saying.
Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then.
On May 12 2015 19:34 sandroba wrote: I think we do need to lynch BM today. The bullshit level in his posts is a lot higher than anything I've seen from him. It is still possible that he is town and using a large quantity of drugs but that I cannot account for, and unless someone can confirm him town so he can be safely ignored we will need to deal with him at some point and I would prefer if it was today. One example of the BS he is pushing that I think points to him clearly lying on purpose and not being on drugs is this post:
On May 12 2015 16:22 Bill Murray wrote:
On May 11 2015 10:06 Trfel wrote: Hello.
I'll get to this game in a few hours at the latest. I am sorry for my absence today, I'll be better during the week than on weekends.
The purpose of this post is to ensure that I comply with the "one post every 24 hours" rule. Meanwhile, enjoy some music.
So Trfel makes excuses "ill be absent" "this post it so ensure that i comply with the one post every 24 hours rule" then he posts a video... cool. really beneficial before this all he had done was harass people
Then I nuke him for behaving like this, which didnt fit how he played last game as town
WITHIN AN HOUR of him "fulfilling his daily post on mothers day", he posts:
On May 11 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote: You're kidding me.
You nuked me for low activity on a weekend, and Mothers' Day?
I really hope you are not town here, because you being town would really kill my motivation to play this game. I mean, if you're going to give the majority of your posts for the first 24 hours away, you really shouldn't be killing me for not playing in a 24 hour period.
And not only that, but he wants to misrepresent what happened He instead attacks me NOT for me nuking him, but wants to lie and come up with some bullshit excuse to basically omgus me
1) he tries to nuke me in return that doesnt work 2) he votes me 3) he then proceeded to ask me if i have any more nukes after unvoting 4) he finds out i have no more nukes 5) he votes me again
this guy isnt enjoyable to play with, and his behavior is self serving and scummy as fuck
He is clearly nit picking and ignoring parts of trfel post. trfel states that he is going to be back in a few hours to this game but BM does not bold that part and bolds parts that change the meaning of the post. Also he flat out lies about the time elapsed between the 2 posts, which was 4 hours, not one, in accordance to the part BM chose to overlook in his first post. Conclusion is I think he is doing it on purpose and is mafia for it. ##vote: BM
And his primary scumread gets pardoned.
This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this.
Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that.
I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good.
We should lynch sandroba.
lol >< is this the game that i should sheep you?
the not getting angry point makes a ton of sense to me -_- way more than anything else anyone has brought up on him, cause i have no clue how "good" sandy actually is as town
but first...dude, are you like mad about something yourself cause...eh? nice you said sorry to ls and all but it's still out of character and i don't get it -_- i'm the bitch in these parts xP
On May 12 2015 23:47 Damdred wrote: Idk what's happening in the thread I just woke up and saw that pardon, and I kist want to say dumbest thing ever. Bm could be town but having town talk about him for another day is stupid
##kill bill murry
back to catching up
you suck
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what sucks more is he's been pushing xata
what sucks more is i'm not seeing a role in the op where this makes an ounce of sense
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so i don't know what you're doing, damdy, but it's not making me happy with you ^^
On May 12 2015 23:47 Damdred wrote: Idk what's happening in the thread I just woke up and saw that pardon, and I kist want to say dumbest thing ever. Bm could be town but having town talk about him for another day is stupid
##kill bill murry
back to catching up
you suck
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what sucks more is he's been pushing xata
what sucks more is i'm not seeing a role in the op where this makes an ounce of sense
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so i don't know what you're doing, damdy, but it's not making me happy with you ^^
You mean apart from the dayvig role?
dayvig doesn't flip alignment -_- how long do you plan on staying retarded? what use is a shot like this without an alignment flip
On May 12 2015 23:47 Damdred wrote: Idk what's happening in the thread I just woke up and saw that pardon, and I kist want to say dumbest thing ever. Bm could be town but having town talk about him for another day is stupid
##kill bill murry
back to catching up
you suck
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what sucks more is he's been pushing xata
what sucks more is i'm not seeing a role in the op where this makes an ounce of sense
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so i don't know what you're doing, damdy, but it's not making me happy with you ^^
You mean apart from the dayvig role?
dayvig doesn't flip alignment -_- how long do you plan on staying retarded? what use is a shot like this without an alignment flip
If BM is/was mafia then it was very useful, no? And yes, that's exactly the reason I wanted to lynch BM instead of having a dayvig shoot him. But a certain someone made that impossble. Tomorrow would have been centered around bm again if you do not see that then you are the retarded one.
who cares?
like, legitimately, who gives a flying fuck if tomorrow is "centered around" bm again? that's just information in the thread. as opposed to no information
and frankly, i don't think he is scum. i've made that very clear for a long time. sure, i could be wrong, but now we just don't know unless four scum flip and game is over \o/ that's brilliant. and that's assuming no 3p or whatever (not really sure what traitor roles even do lol ><)
i will continue to call you retarded as long as you act that way
like i don't get the problem with a normal lynch or further discussion on bm tomorrow. maybe i'm just too new at this but how is an UNFLIPPED VIG SHOT better than LYNCHING him, TOWN OR SCUM?
On May 13 2015 00:16 rsoultin wrote: like i don't get the problem with a normal lynch or further discussion on bm tomorrow. maybe i'm just too new at this but how is an UNFLIPPED VIG SHOT better than LYNCHING him, TOWN OR SCUM?
This is the last thing I will say about this because it is wasting time and posts but if you think that this is what I am saying then you should work on your own reading comprehension.
Let's say BM is mafia. In that case it is annoying that we do not have the information but at least it is a dead mafia. Maybe we have a coroner to fix this. Let's say BM is town. We would have probably lynched him tomorrow - that's 2 days wasted on him. Good thing he is out of the way.
better hope we have a coroner -_- there's no guarantee we do
i still don't agree with it, and it makes even less sense given damdred's push, which is why i've unvoted cause fuck damdy right now i'm not sheeping his reads -_-
meh
i've got shit to do you guys do whatever you want xD bunch of fucking cowboys at best
how does it make sense that when bm gets pardoned your fucking push becomes a primary lynch target and you choose to dayvig bm...if you're that worried about stagnation, why today and not tomorrow? i thought you were townreading him? like...wth?
it doesn't add up
so no, i'm not going to just sheep you on xata as i have been, and i really don't care if people think i'm overreacting or not
meh gb unless you're voting a townread you've got my vote today -_-
i'm done
tired of beating my head against a wall. if people can't see why what damdred did was nonsensical i don't even know. it's less that he did it and that he did it WITH his current reads under THESE circumstances. whatever
On May 13 2015 01:13 Xatalos wrote: Back. Sorry about the long AFK streak but I simply haven't been able to catch up for a while and even now I missed an IRL event just to get some time to read these games.
I still can't get quite over LS. Just as I yesterday thought that I might have misjudged him when he went on talking about meta reads etc., he posted this:
On May 12 2015 13:47 LightningStrike wrote: Hello guys I had caught up and people are now wanting to policy lynch BM even though I think he's town for the fact he's to trigger happy to be scum with his nuke o.o Also people are suspecting Xata(His filter looked okay but I can be convinced that he's scum if someone can case him pretty good) now too along with Oats(He seems lazier than Office Mini and Void when he was lazy town) plus BH(Which I kinda agree with some of the thoughts from others about BH regarding his content regardless of his power). rsoultin is getting extremely angry at Onegu since Onegu is being a pain in the butt to her... Also GB looks very townie atm and I pretty sure he will catch scum very fast like he did in Carol :O @KSC: Yes I actually do have High Functioning Autism I did tell you that I think in our latest game together when you or someone joked around using Autism as a insult -_- @Bill Murray: Don't feel discouraged man I believe you are town and I want you to prove to everyone how you are town!
It's... just... so sheepish/inconclusive. Like he's wanting to make friends and blend in rather than to progress the game.
Dunno what rsoultin was going on about with the "conveniently forgot about Carol" or something. First I was a townread and suddenly scum for some nonexistent reason when people started doubting me? Frankly I can't remember most of my games too well and I only remember something like trying to antagonize marv, slipping in PM's and getting lunched in that game. I think jat was also in my team but that's about it. rsoultin might as well be scum for that rather convenient read progression.
I don't think sandroba's lack of reaction to specific events really makes him scum. Did you see his last scumgame Palmar? It was abysmal. He's clearly trying here so that's enough to make me think he's not scum for now.
heh -_- i knew i was close but i didn't think i was this close
give me posts and i'll talk to you. otherwise, read my filter. it's amazing how easy it is to find things i've already said in there -_-
i may even, amazingly, be willing to do a list post in collegiate writing just for the people who constantly complain about brain cancer and have trouble with simple reading comprehension ^^
heh -_- i knew i was close but i didn't think i was this close
give me posts and i'll talk to you. otherwise, read my filter. it's amazing how easy it is to find things i've already said in there -_-
i may even, amazingly, be willing to do a list post in collegiate writing justfor the people who constantly complain about brain cancer and have trouble with simple reading comprehension ^^
more like i'm being a bitch xDDDDDDDDDDD
because you either can't fucking read which amusingly what i was just complaining about, or you literally started asking me questions, trying to get a list post out of me when i had no posts...while not giving the posts i specifically asked you to donate if you wanted a conversation with me ^^ and given you're now trying to use it as the basis of your scumread, i'm definitely leaning toward the second option
frankly, very few things irritate me as much as having to repeat myself, especially in a post restrictive game when i'm naturally spammy
fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading
my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time
you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote: Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around ##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.
btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.
On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.
Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?
ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?
@xata
don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it
kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch
let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read
any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push
fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading
my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time
you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^
as for ls...
On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote: 12/60
On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote: Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around ##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.
btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.
On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.
Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?
ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?
@xata
don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it
kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch
let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read
any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push
Dunno when I have called your reads weak or actually pushed you? You could try reading yourself. I just said that your reads were near impossible to understand and that you might be scum for that and your convenient read progression on me (basically adapting to thread sentiment all too well).
You wouldn't be my preferred lynch today by far though.
I guess you might have your own way of reading LS, but it hardly warrants calling my read on him trash. It's mostly gut feeling, I admit, it's just that I've rarely gotten such a spider sense of someone being scum just from their all too vague / fluffy posting style.
63/76
this is literally the last post i'm wasting on this discussion. literally. the last.
no you did not specifically use the phrasing "weak". you implied it. you implied my read progression doesn't make sense and called me scum for it. that is pushing me. perhaps we define it differently, but you are pushing suspicion in my general direction, a suspicion i might add that is practically word-for-word the same as ksc's...one of the patterns damdred was talking about about you iirc
nor did i call your read on him "trash". i didn't like that it was THE ONLY thing you were pulling from the thread. ls could be scum. statistically and based on my light read he's more likely town, and he is an ALL TOO EASY mislynch, so you focusing on him and ONLY him is not a good sign for you, xata
of course i'm not your "preferred" lynch today. i'm never getting lynched today, and certainly not for this nonsense. congratulations, though ^^ i'm almost at the point where i feel comfortable voting you based purely on my own read, mr. parrot. i'll readdress when i'm not as irritated -_-
i've wanted to lynch either blazinghand or onegu for over half the cycle it feels like lol >< but...and yes, but...
marv...i'm not sure why you're more sure on bh than vivax? unless it's ego lol >< the literal only reason i have to hesitate on vivax is a poor one at best, but it's enough to make me not want to lynch him today (in part because i think a waiting game will reveal how true his claim about wanting to change his game truly is). i don't see a similar hesitance in you, and it seems strange that a meta read on vivax that has held true in his last several games would give way to the anti-nuker (who saved you) over a sandroba read?
also...i'm just gonna stick with my gut on onegu, i've decided. yes, he's being obnoxious >< but the things that made me think he was mafia still exist, and frankly the <3 thing has crossed from obnoxious to flat-out taunting, which doesn't really make sense to me from a town perspective. even if he's town and 100% convinced i'm scum, why keep it up? if i'm scum it wouldn't even aggravate me...he's my mislynch, after all, in his mind, yeah?
as for xata...meh. i have things i want to check that i don't have time for. don't really like him. could settle on him. would prefer onegu/bh in that order. ksc falls slightly behind xata, but i wouldn't lynch him today even as a compromise.
onegu bh xata
i will lynch
or bring me a good case on someone not town. i think i've taken enough time to get as much out of the omgus mentality as i'm likely to get, so...eh
EPT
so it would be nice if he explained. especially considering he hasn't mentioned it before
