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On May 08 2015 07:57 Superbia wrote: It's probably like this: prp: I'm not going to play (tomorrow), just bus me. Happens more than you think. To be honest this is almost what I did my last game when I was completely drained from being interrogated. Was on the verge of just flipping the table over and going "screw it, I'm done". So I can definitely see it happening. | ||
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Oh thank god for that. For a horrible moment I thought that another one of my big posts might have gotten another mislynch. | ||
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On May 08 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote: Good. I'm the vigi and I'm going to shoot. You're actually vig? Okay that's very promising. With the RB gone you can outright declare who you're going to shoot and the Doc might as well put his save on you. That way, 100% chance of the kill. | ||
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On May 08 2015 08:05 Half the Sky wrote: OH WAIT WOW NO. The bullet is refundable. I stand corrected! Yup: If your target was also shot by mafia, or was protected by a doctor or veteran status, your bullet is lost. If you were roleblocked, you don't use your bullet and can try againt he next night. Town has a guaranteed shot at someone tonight. No blocks, no nothing. Hope its a good one. | ||
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On May 08 2015 08:14 Half the Sky wrote: This is why I'm in these newbie games....I'm honestly one of the worst town players in TL :/ Probably because your scum play looks so town. Take it as a compliment.  Maybe scary but ♥ regardless. X-D | ||
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Although it is starting to slightly bother me that he doesn't EVER seem to read the thread before posting. Like...the whole Vig thing wasn't exactly a one-liner in one post. We were discussing shots for a bit there. | ||
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I'll try to go through some things tomorrow before the night stuff comes in. | ||
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On May 08 2015 16:17 Tictock wrote: Ah so Super confirmed town then? So who do you think should be D3 lynch then SL? He's confirmed town if two people die tonight, one of them being Stutters who he claims he's targeting. The only way he can not be confirmed by this action is if Mafia holds onto their KP. Which would just be an all-round terrible move in my opinion whichever alignment Stutters is. If he's Mafia then they lose two for nothing, the only gain being that Superbia isn't confirmed as Town, plus we keep our doc another day. If he's town then they miss on the opportunity to get two kills, which they kinda need because they just lost the scum RB. Under no circumstances here do mafia not kill someone tonight. And they do NOT let the claimed doc live. Although with the shenanigans going on with ritoky claiming that disfo was just covering for him I have no idea which of the two they'll actually shoot. | ||
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On May 09 2015 05:48 y0su wrote: beyond pro play by dis to pick up the CC in place of Ritoky, just a shame Ritoky thanked him instead of keeping up the charade Gigantic alarm bells going off in my head about you and Ritoky right now. This has NOT been confirmed and yet you're taking it as given, is this all a big plot to guarantee that Superbia doesn't shoot either you or ritoky tonight? disformations last post: On May 08 2015 08:10 disformation wrote: Kinda hyped. Looks pretty bad for scum now.  ritoky claiming that: On May 08 2015 08:13 ritoky wrote: thanks for claiming my role for me disform, you don't have to cover for me any more; it was pretty obvious i was trying to bait prp into claiming my role with the role or mafia read so i could cc him. you don't gotta keep it up anymore. The timestamps show it. ritoky posted that claim of his three minutes after disformation's very last post in this thread and disformation has NOT been back to confirm or deny it. At the risk of going off the rails with a fanciful argument it would be extremely easy for ritoky to make this claim and then you reinforce it, gambling on disformation not picking up the counter claim and thus making everyone blindly believe ritoky's claim and that disformation is "merely" VT which means ritoky is safe from the NK vig shot. Someone please tell me I'm missing something here because this post from y0su combined with ritoky's actions looks goddamn horrible. | ||
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Explain why you outright believe ritoky's claim that disfo was claiming for him despite the fact that disfo has NOT confirmed this yet. | ||
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How about you think for a moment: assuming ritoky's claim is TRUE (that disformation was fakeclaiming on his behalf) and that Superbia is the vig then the absolutely optimal play would be to shut the hell up and protect disformation that night. I don't think Superbia was even looking at ritoky anyway so he was probably safe from an accidental vig shot; meanwhile there is absolutely no way mafia doesn't shoot a claimed medic, in this case disformation. As a result mafia wastes their shot at someone protected by the doc. Absolutely the best outcome for town. By claiming ritoky only does two things. One he puts a target on his head for the mafia and two he can claim towncred by pretending to be the doctor. The former is an absurd play given how unlikely it was he'd be shot tonight anyway and that he'd get an almost guaranteed free doc save out of it too, the latter is a bizarre play but if he's banking on disformation being too much of a newbie to catch it then he might just get away with it. Either way ritoky's claim is weird as hell and makes zero sense. And you're accepting it blindly. | ||
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On May 09 2015 06:44 y0su wrote: god damn it. ritoky was trying to take the NK! (and hoping dis would throw a hail marry save on him) he didn't CC and go after dis. he was trying to protect TOWN and save the doc. Something which was never, ever happening. I'm sorry but this is an absurd argument. No way does mafia EVER NK the second counter-claim here, especially post flip. "No rly, srsly guys believe me, scouts honour I'm the REAL Doc, he was just covering for me." In a game with no PMs so that such an action couldn't be coordinated there is zero reason for mafia to believe the second claim here. | ||
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I mean lets assume this had all gone through and the little plan hadn't worked and disfo were to get shot anyway. Where the hell does that leave ritoky? "Oh, I was just messing, trying to get the mafia to shoot me instead, really, I'm innocent, don't lynch me." Where the hell does that leave anyone who BELIEVED ritoky and pushed that narrative along "oh I knew that's what he was doing all along, I'm innocent too!" Again, this game doesn't have PMs. Therefore there is no way to coordinate such an action. Why would anyone ever believe that argument? | ||
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In an open setup like this you just screw absolutely everyone's reads. | ||
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"Oh I knew what he was doing all along! He was trying to help!" Really now. Again, how did you figure that out? What is making you townread ritoky so hard? His counter-claiming a counter-claiming Doc? Really? Like...y0su is rapidly climbing my "to-lynch" list every minute I spend thinking about this. That's how bad this little gambit worked out if y0su and ritoky really are innocent here. | ||
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On May 09 2015 07:04 y0su wrote: a) ritoky is scum. he believes dis to be dr. he's going to nk dis. everyone is going to know his claim is false. b) ritoky is vt. he believes dis to be dr. he tries something desperate to save dis. which is more likely? Okay, now you're being deliberately misleading about the possibilities. You are absolutely scum here and its going to take a hell of an argument for anyone to convince me you're not red. He doesn't HAVE to NK dis. He can NK ANYONE ELSE in this game which leaves us running in goddamn circles for the entirety of day 3 trying to work out which of disformation and ritoky is lying. | ||
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