• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:29
CEST 09:29
KST 16:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO8 - Group A Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 27300 users

Newbie Student Mafia IX - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#1396
Okay, my updated read on you: I get a T read from the way you answered regarding SL. Despite him voting for someone voting you it didn't blur your opinion that it was a bad argument. If you were just going for survival you could have used that to try to drive that case. This at least drives you more green than not.

I asked about dis because he was directly putting pressure on you with his vote (it was probably a bit of a softball question) but you answered about HtS. I'm not really a fan of meta reads (as a rookie) but I like the followup.

Enjoy dinner.

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 07 2015 17:20 GMT
#1481
On May 08 2015 01:24 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 01:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Will the real doc or vet please stand up?


Was thinking this trough for a bit. Also wanted to wait for reactions for a bit.

Like in Team Fortress 2 and Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance the only german guy on the cast is Ze Doktor.

Wondered why I get defensive so easily when called scum and didn't react to easy town reads? Well, I was scared of being misslynched.

To reiterate:
I am Docor. prphlz is dead scum.

voting.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 07 2015 17:31 GMT
#1487
On May 07 2015 08:32 y0su wrote:
Stutters, after prpl who's your top scum?

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 07 2015 17:32 GMT
#1488
This was (and still is) @ritoky
On May 07 2015 07:50 y0su wrote:
I really don't like stats that are pulled out of your ass. Do you have some further explanation on why that would be?
I've also said that I'm not doing reads by association - I can't place 2 votes at a time anyway.

Could you explain what was the significance of pointing out my TR on you and TT in relation to the voting?

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 07 2015 17:49 GMT
#1494
On May 08 2015 01:24 disformation wrote:
Me being fairly active and getting attention with my smilies was my plan to make it harder for mafia to guess that I am a blue.

And I was ridiculed for noticing
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 20:48 GMT
#1667
On May 08 2015 22:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 11:09 The Shining wrote:
Yeah I was excusing the vote, not scumming him for it, and he comes back and tells me it's not alignment indicative. Felt like a defensive post, and unnecessary.

And I'd lynch him solely off of doing that more than once, while trying to direct blues without reading. I can't even begin to fathom where that town motivation would come from.


Shining he has done this as both alignments. If sicklucker is scum, it's not for this. What I'm more interested in, is how he knew he wanted to lynch Stutters and y0su earlier.

I asked him earlier who other than Superbia he wanted to lynch - he replied Stutters and y0su without any reasoning.

SL, what do you think on y0su now?

I don't have much time to answer everything...

I would shoot you. I'm bad at reading what people post, but I think I'm catching on to some of the logic behind moves.

Why did Super get RB'd and FF NK'd?

The events leading up to EoD1 have Super pushing hardest for the train to move from scott to HtS. Let's assuming our two roles are indeed Doc/Vig. Why RB Super and NK FF? I thought FF's play towards the end of the day was a bit weak, why NK him? Medic dodge?. Yes, but why? Super was coming strong after HtS (when I read it later I thought it was just an attempt to get a 2nd train - especially with how he decided he didn't want a d2 lynch of HtS.) But what if scum didn't read it that way (at least during the night?) Now, there were 3 people on the HtS wagon (one being Prpl) and one vote on Prpl (so 3 potential vigilantes to look out for). They guessed right and RB'd the biggest danger to HtS (If HtS wasn't scum, WHY RB SOMEONE GUNNING FOR HER??). Now, why not just kill Super? Again, with his EoD charge against HtS it would look kind of obvious to kill him (and there's the possibility that he had a doc visit since Ritoky + Show Spoiler +
beyond pro play by dis to pick up the CC in place of Ritoky, just a shame Ritoky thanked him instead of keeping up the charade
was on that train as well and might have anticipated the danger to Super.

Beyond that, I think SL and his "I do math for a living - trust me" is my "wtf stutters is town" #3.

Anyway, been a long and hard day (had to put my cat down today) and I have a tournament to wake up early for tomorrow. (I'll recheck the thread in about 15 min before going to bed)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#1669
On May 09 2015 06:01 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 05:48 y0su wrote:

beyond pro play by dis to pick up the CC in place of Ritoky, just a shame Ritoky thanked him instead of keeping up the charade


Gigantic alarm bells going off in my head about you and Ritoky right now. This has NOT been confirmed and yet you're taking it as given, is this all a big plot to guarantee that Superbia doesn't shoot either you or ritoky tonight?

disformations last post:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:10 disformation wrote:
Kinda hyped. Looks pretty bad for scum now.



ritoky claiming that:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:13 ritoky wrote:
thanks for claiming my role for me disform, you don't have to cover for me any more; it was pretty obvious i was trying to bait prp into claiming my role with the role or mafia read so i could cc him. you don't gotta keep it up anymore.



The timestamps show it. ritoky posted that claim of his three minutes after disformation's very last post in this thread and disformation has NOT been back to confirm or deny it.

At the risk of going off the rails with a fanciful argument it would be extremely easy for ritoky to make this claim and then you reinforce it, gambling on disformation not picking up the counter claim and thus making everyone blindly believe ritoky's claim and that disformation is "merely" VT which means ritoky is safe from the NK vig shot.


Someone please tell me I'm missing something here because this post from y0su combined with ritoky's actions looks goddamn horrible.

I'll be happy to discuss that in the day
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:21 GMT
#1671
do you want to help decide the NK or the Vig shot?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:22 GMT
#1672
Think about it long and hard.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#1675
did you think about my question? which do you think I'm trying to do?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#1676
ebwop (don't answer tonight)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:44 GMT
#1681
god damn it.

ritoky was trying to take the NK! (and hoping dis would throw a hail marry save on him)

he didn't CC and go after dis. he was trying to protect TOWN and save the doc.

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:45 GMT
#1682
fuck. you've kept me up too long, g'night.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:04 GMT
#1692
a) ritoky is scum. he believes dis to be dr. he's going to nk dis. everyone is going to know his claim is false.
b) ritoky is vt. he believes dis to be dr. he tries something desperate to save dis.

which is more likely?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:12 GMT
#1697
If someone other than whoever super shoots dies, i'll entertain that. you yourself said there's no reason not to nk
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#1698
and THEN (as I said before dis's counter counter counter... whatever claim) I'd be willing to talk about it in the morning.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:22 GMT
#1701
because i was trying to draw confusion at night (that would be easily settled in the day)?

I'd be inclined to believe i could be wrong if ritoky would have gone after dis. The only thing he went after was being NK target.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:24 GMT
#1704
HtS, why do you think super was RB'd?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 10 2015 13:34 GMT
#1908
@Ritoky GL!

didn't turn my computer on yesterday. had an American football tournament (first time I've played competitively in almost 15 years! - holy fuck am I hurting today.) I've also otherwise been about trying to distract myself (no wife or cat at the moment so it's a bit lonely at home).

anyway...

I appreciate the filter dive on me, but did you look at my filter for EVERYONE for comparison? (Ritoky at one point also noted that I hadn't posted much about my opinion of him changing). Didn't realize I needed to officially state that "stutters isn't answering me he's going red".

I like TT's points about SL
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2015 05:25 y0su wrote:
Right now I think I'm most willing to vote SL. I'm really disappointed in his d2 content and reasons for voting super. (yes I have super red, but not for the same reasons - I feel like he's doing the most to confuse town) TS could still slip into a tie with prp.


However, I'm still sticking to my guns that scum thought HtS was in danger night one (they KNEW there was a vig and might have legitimately feared for HtS). I think they just got lucky/unlucky with RBing super who was shooting at dis instead!

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 10 2015 15:31 GMT
#1920
Super pretty much said he was off of voting you right after the d2 started. At that point you didn't have a reason to be afraid of him.

I've said a few times I agree with TT's thinking and like him T for it.

I'm not sure SL is mafia - as I'm not sure you are.

The strongest thing I currently have is the N1 actions. I'm not going to throw away my vote like Scott did and if that means switching to SL I will - because I do support the arguments for it. If I'm dead either way then I'll keep my vote on you just as a reminder to others.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 124
ProTech53
trigger 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 33906
TY 793
Pusan 515
actioN 488
Nal_rA 263
ToSsGirL 138
Aegong 126
Shine 125
Leta 55
Movie 32
[ Show more ]
NaDa 25
NotJumperer 16
Dota 2
XcaliburYe171
Fuzer 130
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K992
shoxiejesuss284
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor131
Other Games
summit1g7249
WinterStarcraft463
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream3891
Other Games
gamesdonequick601
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
2h 1m
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
16h 31m
Replay Cast
18h 31m
GSL Code S
1d 2h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Cheesadelphia
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.