ritoky was trying to take the NK! (and hoping dis would throw a hail marry save on him)
he didn't CC and go after dis. he was trying to protect TOWN and save the doc.
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:44 GMT
#1681
ritoky was trying to take the NK! (and hoping dis would throw a hail marry save on him) he didn't CC and go after dis. he was trying to protect TOWN and save the doc. | ||
y0su
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 21:45 GMT
#1682
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 21:45 GMT
#1683
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
May 08 2015 21:47 GMT
#1684
On May 09 2015 06:45 -Celestial- wrote: @disformation: Honestly I don't care if its "pro-plays" or not. Mafia is effectively a puzzle and mind game. Deliberately throwing confusion into it screws up people's reads. Yeah, I agree. As I said: I can see super confusing stuff happening d3 if mafia shoots neither rikoty or me. Escpecially if riko is mafia himself. Again: sry, should have posted this earlier. Also feels like another huge rock off my chest. | ||
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 21:48 GMT
#1685
On May 09 2015 06:44 y0su wrote: god damn it. ritoky was trying to take the NK! (and hoping dis would throw a hail marry save on him) he didn't CC and go after dis. he was trying to protect TOWN and save the doc. Something which was never, ever happening. I'm sorry but this is an absurd argument. No way does mafia EVER NK the second counter-claim here, especially post flip. "No rly, srsly guys believe me, scouts honour I'm the REAL Doc, he was just covering for me." In a game with no PMs so that such an action couldn't be coordinated there is zero reason for mafia to believe the second claim here. | ||
disformation
Germany8352 Posts
May 08 2015 21:51 GMT
#1686
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 21:52 GMT
#1687
I mean lets assume this had all gone through and the little plan hadn't worked and disfo were to get shot anyway. Where the hell does that leave ritoky? "Oh, I was just messing, trying to get the mafia to shoot me instead, really, I'm innocent, don't lynch me." Where the hell does that leave anyone who BELIEVED ritoky and pushed that narrative along "oh I knew that's what he was doing all along, I'm innocent too!" Again, this game doesn't have PMs. Therefore there is no way to coordinate such an action. Why would anyone ever believe that argument? | ||
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 21:56 GMT
#1688
In an open setup like this you just screw absolutely everyone's reads. | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
May 08 2015 22:00 GMT
#1689
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
May 08 2015 22:01 GMT
#1690
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 22:03 GMT
#1691
"Oh I knew what he was doing all along! He was trying to help!" Really now. Again, how did you figure that out? What is making you townread ritoky so hard? His counter-claiming a counter-claiming Doc? Really? Like...y0su is rapidly climbing my "to-lynch" list every minute I spend thinking about this. That's how bad this little gambit worked out if y0su and ritoky really are innocent here. | ||
y0su
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:04 GMT
#1692
b) ritoky is vt. he believes dis to be dr. he tries something desperate to save dis. which is more likely? | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
May 08 2015 22:06 GMT
#1693
On May 08 2015 22:50 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2015 11:09 The Shining wrote: Yeah I was excusing the vote, not scumming him for it, and he comes back and tells me it's not alignment indicative. Felt like a defensive post, and unnecessary. And I'd lynch him solely off of doing that more than once, while trying to direct blues without reading. I can't even begin to fathom where that town motivation would come from. Shining he has done this as both alignments. If sicklucker is scum, it's not for this. What I'm more interested in, is how he knew he wanted to lynch Stutters and y0su earlier. I asked him earlier who other than Superbia he wanted to lynch - he replied Stutters and y0su without any reasoning. SL, what do you think on y0su now? I have had answered this like several times? | ||
disformation
Germany8352 Posts
May 08 2015 22:08 GMT
#1694
On May 09 2015 07:04 y0su wrote: a) ritoky is scum. he believes dis to be dr. he's going to nk dis. everyone is going to know his claim is false. b) ritoky is vt. he believes dis to be dr. he tries something desperate to save dis. which is more likely? c) rikoty is scum. he believes I am the dr. mafia shoots neither rikoty nor me. hilarity ensues. not saying that rikoty is 100% scum. But this could happen. | ||
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 22:10 GMT
#1695
On May 09 2015 07:04 y0su wrote: a) ritoky is scum. he believes dis to be dr. he's going to nk dis. everyone is going to know his claim is false. b) ritoky is vt. he believes dis to be dr. he tries something desperate to save dis. which is more likely? Okay, now you're being deliberately misleading about the possibilities. You are absolutely scum here and its going to take a hell of an argument for anyone to convince me you're not red. He doesn't HAVE to NK dis. He can NK ANYONE ELSE in this game which leaves us running in goddamn circles for the entirety of day 3 trying to work out which of disformation and ritoky is lying. | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
May 08 2015 22:11 GMT
#1696
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:12 GMT
#1697
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
May 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#1698
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#1699
Under those circumstances its entirely possible town gets scared of potentially mislynching the Doc, consequently leaving both alone. Potentially leading to a mislynch on someone entirely different which would be increasingly painful at that point. | ||
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 22:17 GMT
#1700
On May 09 2015 07:12 y0su wrote: If someone other than whoever super shoots dies, i'll entertain that. you yourself said there's no reason not to nk Unless Super is talking nonsense about being vig then there WILL be two kills tonight. No way does mafia not kill someone tonight especially after this whole absurd situation with ritoky. Right now you're pretty much my top scumread given how you're reacting here. | ||
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