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On May 05 2015 08:20 Fecalfeast wrote: I didn't swith because 8 mins isn't enough to get a read on someone FF giving up a chance for shennanies? I dont believe it thats usualy the only part you play | ||
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On May 06 2015 04:48 Half the Sky wrote: Seriously? Why do you think Holyflare often gets N1ed in games? How often is he blue when this happens? *facepalm* but no one here is anygood | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:27 Superbia wrote: As for roles, I don't think I agree. I think FF was a medic-dodge, as people were starting to doubt his townliness at EoD. I also think we have a cop. I think vigi would've, and should've shot tonight. I think that the mafia thought I was the cop for whatever reason. Either that or we have a vigi who for some didn't shoot after a miss-lynch.. i convinced mafia to kill ff. It was glorious. Did i do this in the qt or in thread? stay tuned! | ||
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On May 06 2015 12:12 Tictock wrote: Just realized I left off part of my voting analysis. The voters for scott: -Celestial-, sicklucker, disformation, Half the Sky, y0su, FecalFeast, The Shining, and Stutters695 -Clestial- made a clear case and was following his reads. Obv vote sicklucker ugh, I don't like his vote here seems pretty suspect and at best pure sheep. He mentioned not liking scott right after the initial scott voting (where he started to make himself look scum) fiasco, but here is his EoD stuff related to voting. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2015 00:50 sicklucker wrote: So we def kill scott. Then if he flips scum we def kill super. If not maybe hts? I donno this seems solid tho On May 05 2015 00:52 sicklucker wrote: I can honestly bury him but I dont think its needed and you will all just think im bussing. But I really do think scott has been scum since my third post On May 05 2015 06:53 sicklucker wrote: Pro tips its easy because hes mafia! On May 05 2015 06:58 sicklucker wrote: Acualy scotts last post makes me think he might be town  On May 05 2015 07:51 sicklucker wrote: i might switch! On May 05 2015 07:57 sicklucker wrote: no ones switching anyway. Boring disformation gives us clear reasons why he votes scott, is not just sheep + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2015 07:19 disformation wrote: Main reason I am on the scott train: + I read the case from -c- three times and I found it to be rock solid. HtS: Leaning town on HtS. So she has probably pocketed me already. =p But I thought she was trying hard to make up lost time today. Also a lot of the reads prplhz and rikoty towards her are tone or meta reads that may simply do not function given she didn't have enough time. I'd say to give her at least one day, to see if she will really put out some great reads. Like. I don't even know what this is supposed to be. Half the Sky actually suprised me with fairly weak voting logic, + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2015 07:57 Half the Sky wrote: My reasons for voting scott were from what I presented before - he didn't even have a read on you before voting him when he first voted me. His claiming VT holds nothing to me. It's NAI - I've seen people do that as both alignments. I questioned him on why he thought disinformation was a better lynch. Waffling and committing to a read though does not look good at all, it is a scumlike behaviour. y0su seemed to be unsure of the case against scott simply because he distrusted -c-, after HtS defended -c- as town y0su dropped the whole thing and sheeped FF RIP good sir The Shining sheeped this one imo. It doesn't seem to me like he thinks scott is scum,+ Show Spoiler + On May 05 2015 04:24 The Shining wrote: Still no Scott defense. Yeah, I could vote him, too. I'm sorry, I definitely avoided this game last night. I was a bit cranky and didn't want to let it get any worse. =/ Super's birthday excuse is valid but it really gives me butterflies that it just happened to excuse him for EoD. While he has a "pressure" vote on SL. How much pressure is pressure if you say it's pressure and then proceed to say you likely won't have a way of backing up your pressure or vote? It's wasted pressure, wasted vote and Scott at the time looked like the wagon that would gain traction. And it has. As for Scott, I agree with the points made against him. And if it were any other player, I'd be worried about no one defending him but if he is in fact scum, it would mean he rolled scum every game he's played here. I could understand the lack of defense, lack of posting, possible lack of motivation as someone who is tired of rolling scum as a newbie. Stutters695 was not very active D1 and was expecting to find him as another sheep, but + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2015 04:47 Stutters695 wrote: Anyway, main reason I'm down for a scott lynch is his read on prpl. He has him as scummy then drops it to null when he still hadn't posted. If anything it should make him scummier. Additionally, leaving me off completely is weird when from someone who doesn't know me, I should be in the same boat as the other lurkers. Not to mention unvoting his scum read and not having anything else in mind before bouncing. As for the oddball votes. I talked about scott's vote on dis in my dis read a few posts ago. The summary was that it didn't look like it held any weight and was just scott throwing his vote on someone. Why he didn't at least put it on HtS near the end is wierd, but I find nothing to suggest that scott has some kinda deep read on dis. Lastly was of course my own vote on prp. Which I've already tried to explain in some detail. My vote was not sheep I was one if not the first to bring him up. He opened with how he wanted to keep an eye on me, then voted me because I didnt post much as my pre game excuse said I would then he said a bunch of other garbage and afked for 24 hours. He had 1 post after that which I called him out as being town but no one was interested in voting hts with 3 votes. | ||
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On May 06 2015 20:47 Half the Sky wrote: sicklucker is experienced enough that I wouldn't see him outing or even breadcrumbing a green check on D2 after a ML. There's no motive for him to out, people are calling him for lurking (and I reiterate that again now) but he's not absolute top lynch on people's list atm. There's no pressure and it's early in the day. I would totally do this as the real cop 100% of the time its something I learned on another site. The idea is to fake it x amount that mafia does not believe me. but if I do die in the night and I am the real cop theirs no fighting about who my check is because I left it in the thread. Also if I am faking a check and I die in the night as vt, it means hts is most likely town because mafia would have no reason to kill me if my fake check was on a mafia member. Its a very useful strategy that everyone should use | ||
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From my experience mafia will claim rb like half of the time regardless of the setup so im always suspect of the roleblock claim. But when theres a vet in the game (There is 50% of the time in this set up but mafia knows what setup were in) mafia will always roleblock whoever they nk because if you roleblock your nightkill then the vet power is neutriled. So mafia will know there is a vet because they are told the setup and will have roleblocked ff if its a veteran setup 100% of the time. Also meta wise supers one mafia win that I know of was my very first game. He claimed roleblock that game too and rode it to a mafia win. Let me ask the host if rb goes through vet power in this setup but it usually does. Told ya you should have killed me super | ||
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I would wait for the mod to confirm if veterans can be roleblocked tho. I have seen mods do it both ways | ||
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50% chance to flip scum is very good odds. 75% is amazing I have no reason to ever change this | ||
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Say your told theres a vet in the game but if you rb your nk then you have no fear of shooting a vet. Then your always gonna be missing rb. So why not claim it yourself as mafia? This is a newbie game right? Its worked for you before right? Maybe I can be talked into leaving super alive untill roles claim because then when im told theirs a vet in the game ill be 100% sure hes mafia rather then just likely. But I might be nked and its a newbie game so im not sure how much people will follow through with my read so I think werjust kill him now | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:07 Half the Sky wrote: Bloody hell sicklucker, blues should not claim, end of. This is just insanity. No but that one specific useless role should if its someone whos not getting nked because it gives us a confirmed mafia WHICH IS GREAT FOR ANY ROLE. You absolutely claim here YOU CONFIRM A MAFIA LOL. Stop being such a boring prude hts make some plays. I get it if your the vet and dont claim but just push and try to get super lynch. But if the vets some new player thats never getting killed the best thing you can do is claim and give me this confirmed information so I dont mislynch super the 1/4 chance hes town here | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:13 Half the Sky wrote: In Newbie LX I was godfather, Celestial was the RB and he claimed he was RBed. Holy shit, I had forgotten that. But even in that game THERE WAS A BEHAVIOUR COMPONENT. Celestial was called out for scum behaviour in that game and Rasputin's tinfoil hat theory actually saved him despite him being auto-lynch D3 that game. What part of that don't you understand? You need to take into account not just the mechanics but his behaviour. I'm asking YOU to read Superbia OUTSIDE the claim. Am I making sense now? ill try but when the numbers tell me someone is gonna flip mafia 75% of the time I ignore everything and lynch him. BECAUSE I DO MATH FOR A LIVING AND THATS AN INSANE LYNCH PERCENTAGE. The avg to lynch mafia is something like 33% | ||
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