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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:24 GMT
#1185
Vote is on prpl, I don't like this.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:30 GMT
#1192
On May 07 2015 02:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:20 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong

I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look.


Im offering you a really good lynch math does not lie! This preflip blame is hella scummy


We've had a really good lynch since n1 and you're directing attention away from him on the basis of a RB claim. That's hella scummy.


am assuming you mean prpl? if he was such a good lynch, why did you do nothing to get him lynched?


Obviously.

My points are all throughout my filter and they haven't changed because he still is doing nothing. If you want me to rehash everything into a 5p essay I can, but it should be completely unnecessary. The dude is scum.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:40 GMT
#1201
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:56 GMT
#1216
On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

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On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


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On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

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On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.


Since n1 not d1, what the fuck are you on about revisionist history. I gave him d1 to do anything. He didn't. He still hasn't, that's scum prpl in a nutshell. HtS made additional points. If you won't do it from my posts, read hers and lynch him.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 18:43 GMT
#1244
On May 07 2015 02:58 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
[quote]
been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
[quote]
this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.


Since n1 not d1, what the fuck are you on about revisionist history. I gave him d1 to do anything. He didn't. He still hasn't, that's scum prpl in a nutshell. HtS made additional points. If you won't do it from my posts, read hers and lynch him.


the only difference btwn d1 and n1 is scott flipped town. why does scott flipping town make prpl more likely mafia?


Because that gave him 48 hours to post and he hadn't done dick. Because he afk'd in his previous game as town for a day, he deserved the benefit of the doubt in case the weekend was bad but it's Wednesday now and he's still bad.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#1246
On May 07 2015 03:37 -Celestial- wrote:
Like...right now I don't know what to think on Superbia. I think sicklucker has got a point but I'm all over the place on the guy.

But prplhz is just...bright crimson right now. He's done nothing but lurk and try to pretend to contribute. And yet Superbia has been hard town reading him literally the entire game because "he's thinking the same as me, making the same reads" despite the fact he's made virtually no reads at all.

Seriously just wtf. prplhz looks terrible and Superbia's constant defending is honestly weirding me out. I almost think it would be worth lynching Superbia right now because of that one thing.


What? No. You lynch the bright crimson scum first. That's like mafia 101.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 19:42 GMT
#1255
So y0su explain why SL would push Super like that scum on scum please. It's highly unlikely that they're both scum together based off of today's interactions.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 20:21 GMT
#1279
On May 07 2015 04:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, I think I asked you this question before, but I don't recall an answer earlier and I cannot find it in your filter.

If prplhz disappeared from the game, for whom would you vote?

TBF I've been pretty tunneled on getting him lynched. If I had to choose immediately (like minutes to the lynch) I'd sheep on you.

If I had time to read I'd probably settle between disf, shining, tt and y0su. I'll probably read up on them tonight anyway to get my thoughts out there.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#1284
On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed.

You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 20:28 GMT
#1290
But you still won't lynch him?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#1377
On May 07 2015 07:32 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 03:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is a role or mafia, take that 1 to the bank. had that read since like his 3rd or 4th post. waiting on his claim.

what the fuck is this even


I hate to say it, but I'm actually with prpl on this. You accuse me of trying to revise my d1 while blatantly slinging this shit? You had him as your 3rd/4th towniest person at like his 3rd or 4th post and now you're demanding he claim, which at best trades for a PR when we could just lynch him? I don't like that.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#1378
Ebwop that was @Ritoky, didn't expect it to hide his quote.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#1382
On May 07 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote:
am gone until later. cross your fingers for no more preg complications.

Just saw this, hope everything goes ok.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#1384
Bolts game, be back later
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#1385
Depending on Rit's answers him. I have tomorrow during the day off so I'll get a full set of reads off then.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 07 2015 14:08 GMT
#1426
On May 07 2015 21:49 Half the Sky wrote:
If prplhz does flip scum I think ritoky and Superbia should be revisited as both hard towned prplhz for mindmeld or something.

Just woke up. Gonna get some thoughts out today since work + another Bolts game tonight.

Tyler "Literally Stamkos" Johnson is the best thing ever btw.

Anyway, first impressions are it looks significantly better for Rit (more null/slight town than anything) . He "mindmelded" or w/e but dropped it when prpl went afk which would be the correct call.

The biggest question imo is on Super. He's hard defended someone who hasn't done anything for 5 days basically.

It's really hard to say scum would hard defend scum for that long over such shitty reasons. And when he finally got off the defense it felt unnatural as fuck. Unless he was stalling for prpl to come back from outside information, why not just cut your losses?

I don't get it, feels too obvious almost.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 07 2015 14:40 GMT
#1427
And called into work early, I fucking hate my job. 2-9 switched for 11-8 is a totally fair trade right?

I'll be here to get stuff out when I can.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 16:29 GMT
#1659
On May 08 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
I also find it amusing that Stutters has gone completely dead silent since his last post. Probably threw in the towel.

Nah, exam week. 2 games going on. I just haven't had the time to play how I really want to. Apologies for that, I miscalculated the time investment to really read two games.

If you guys want to vig me, I completely understand, no hard feelings. I'm running some errands before I have to work. Now that my exams are done I'll have significantly more time but my weekend is pretty booked with mother's day/going to a theme park Saturday (20 dollar tickets ftw).

If you want I can explain whatever questions you have, but I know it looks real bad and it won't get better until Sunday evening.

I'll get some reads out by EoN so you guys have something to go off of when I'm gone.





Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 18:17 GMT
#1664
On May 09 2015 01:35 Tictock wrote:
Oh Stutters is around!

So Stutters, if you were Vig. Who would you shoot tonight?

Semi around. Honestly, from an outside perspective from the people in this game SL, myself or Shining.

If you know my meta, it's a bad choice to shoot me (if anything, I play way more actively as scum and put out slam dunk cases on my partners but my town pushes are laughably bad by comparison) however my inability to actually play this game/awareness of this obfuscates any meta read off of that.

SL/Shining because they should know better than they're playing and any one of us could easily be scum just shitting around doing such.

Otherwise disfo/y0su because I can't read newbies for shit.

That might be changed if I get the time to actually filter read, but honestly unless prpl didn't get lynched somehow Vigs are best spent taking out unreadables/lurkers.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 19:47 GMT
#1666
On May 09 2015 03:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 03:17 Stutters695 wrote:
That might be changed if I get the time to actually filter read, but honestly unless prpl didn't get lynched somehow Vigs are best spent taking out unreadables/lurkers.


prplhz was lynched. He flipped RB. That's why we're asking the next scum....

I'm aware. I was saying that if some shit happened that ended up with him alive, it would take something like that(confirmed scum) for me to shoot for scum over a coinflip lurker like the ones we have in this game.

Obviously, it doesn't help my case at all and would vehemently disagree with shooting me, it's better to shoot one of us than hunting scum outside that group with the shot to avoid a repeat of the d1 lynch with everyone sheeping.

Honestly, I'm not in a position to find scum yet. I'm just now catching up completely but I'll try to get something out right before EoN.

Although I'm bummed the Bolts lost, it greatly reduces my workload so hopefully I'll have more time.
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