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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 04 2015 16:08 GMT
#635
@hts, I get what I've been missing... (see my last post). If scum pushes super hard for a d1 that just leaves town with an easy d2 target. So pushing hard d1 (especially that "early") would be a town move.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 04 2015 16:11 GMT
#636
based on that, (unless someone can explain why that would be wrong) -c- goes town for me.

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 04 2015 16:22 GMT
#646
I was just waiting to make sure I had sound reasoning on -c- (at last).
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 04 2015 20:51 GMT
#715
I got a strong town read from the way HtS was pushing me when I was stuck misreading -c-'s play.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 04 2015 21:56 GMT
#730
I like that your post sounds familiar
I had a weird feel from him from the start and none of what -c- said helped him... but again it just feels like "an easy target" to try to get people to bandwagon.

I can resonate with the rest too, gaining some poinTs.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 04 2015 22:03 GMT
#737
On May 05 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote:
FF

you going to change your vote and give some WHY or should I go to bed?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 05 2015 18:01 GMT
#941
Hey guys, sorry been afk all day + Show Spoiler +
. My wife is taking a 2 week trip to the states (leaves 4 am - 2h after EoN) so I've been hanging out and helping her pack and get some last minute shopping done.


I'll try to get some EoD thoughts in before EoN but no promises - Need to really reread a few interactions (particularly the stuff between HtS and me). I had a strong T read on her but want to reread with all the recent action.

I also need to look into the TT discussion cause he had the same uneasiness about the Scott wagon being "too easy" (could just be both of us being new, but - and i think i stated it earlier - it gave me a T read on him).

Anyone able to explain Scott's vote?

Although Dis's frustration could be from being called out, I do get more of a T read on being frustrated from the ML too.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 03:52 GMT
#1081
Just got home to see there's lots of work to do :D

I'll start with the easy part and then try to be more decisive.

TT, reread the after your quote. I initially had the same problem as you where the scott train "felt too easy" and I had one other scum (tone) read. Unfortunately the person who I was reading happened to be the same person pointing the finger at scott (and universally accepted as being T). After that post (where I indeed didn't have a conclusion) I tried pushing -c- regarding and ended up in a discussion with HtS. Now that I've got a day under my belt I'm a bit more warmed up.


y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 04:36 GMT
#1083
i thought about it, but no. wrong =/= mafia, right =/= town.

(i'm mid writing hang on) :D

mid is a lie, i'm like 2 filters in :/
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 04:54 GMT
#1084
ebwop (you might be able to tell by my emoticons who I'm currently reading)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 07:13 GMT
#1085
-Celestial- I see why my filter looks so poor, I've been too worried about being wrong. There's clear thoughts and direction in almost every post. I have no idea why/how he survived the night!

Tictock He's also one of the few people that expressed hesitation to jump on the "easy" train. I felt the same as d1 rookie town. I believe the way he voted was just a rookie mistake.

disformation is it supposed to be disINformation? (that's not a read on him, just curious if people have been writing his name like that on purpose?) His smiles bug me - they make me feel like he's trying to win favor. Trying to sound friendly and helpful. However, a few of his posts have well explained thought processes and I'll chalk up his indecision on learning - for now.

ritoky + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote:
IMAGINE THIS: YOURE GOING TO GET LYNCHED ALMOST 100%? AND HTS IS THE OTHER WAGON. AS MAFIA SCOTT, DO YOU A) PUSH ON HTS OR B) GO ON SOMEONE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

gluck, hope you guys chose right. at least we got some 2ndary wagon info.
This post would have changed my vote. I'll be making every effort to be active every EoD.

The Shining giving him red on tone. Very willing to reconsider if/when we get d2 stuff he's promised.

Half the Sky beyond "holding my hand" - for which she got T (as it seems very town beneficial) - her posts show a lot of effort and supported conclusions.

Sorry, having trouble keeping my eyes open...

I'll get back with
super, prp, sl and stutters (but the last 3 at least need to step up a bit)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 17:30 GMT
#1193
On May 06 2015 19:28 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 16:13 y0su wrote:
Half the Sky beyond "holding my hand" - for which she got T (as it seems very town beneficial)


Just a small note here: I wouldn't take that as alignment indicative myself. As far as I can tell for the most part she's just guiding you through your thoughts on me which could mean:
1. She's town, and wants to get you onto the same page as other people.
2. Me and her are scummates and she's deliberately guiding you away from me.
3. She's scum, I'm not, and she's trying to curry favour with me since I was being heavily townread.

At least that's how I'd read it in your position. So basically it could mean anything.


I read 1. Ruling out 2 on my hard T read of you. Thought about (wifom) 3 but she's been a lot more active and besides not having the best reaction to EoD I don't see the rest of her posts supporting scum.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 17:48 GMT
#1209
On May 06 2015 20:44 Half the Sky wrote:
y0su - I want you to answer the following questions:

1 What are your thoughts on the behaviours of people close to/at EoD? The people who were active at the time IIRC were Superbia, myself, ritoky, disformation, prplhz, Celestial, sicklucker.
(So were FF/Scott, but they are both flipped, so leave them out, obv)

2 How confident are you in your current town reads? Do you potentially think any of them could be misleading? (Granted Celestial already highlighted one of them for you but the others?)

Also curious to see the rest of your reads.

(Sidenote: Yeh I also keep typing disinformation as well lol.)

Slept about 10am to 8pm (just woke up) so the rest of my reads will come after I "catch up" (and try to answer stuff like this)

1. I really wish I was around EoD to get a better feel for the thread.

Dis seemed really shaken by scott's vote on him. Part of that was (probably) just not fully understanding it. Overall though, he didn't completely breakdown - I actually see his lack of smiles there as a T read. I think if he was putting on a face he would have tried to keep up the smiles under pressure. (My read on him is pretty shaking rookie town.)

You and -c- were pretty much standing pat. I think either of you could have hopped off scott's train if someone would have presented something a bit stronger (better thought out / explained) and with a bit more time. I already noted one of ritoky's posts that would have convinced me to look for a new vote.

I'm still reading through super. prp. and sl)

2. I'm very confident in the -c- and ritoky reads. It'll take less to get me after you. Dis is TT reads are influenced pretty strongly by being rookies - kind of like "afk d1" it's not an excuse that'll keep holding.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 19:35 GMT
#1250
Superbia d1 posting was sporadic and I can let some go with his birthday. His EoD comes off as either just super rushed or trying to create confusion. His posts read like he doesn't have any aim but to get people to vote HtS in a hurry. His posts have a lot of pressure (am I using that right?) to get answers but any conclusions he keeps to himself. He also does a 180 on HtS (based on her meta - not that he survived the night) but keeps his (unexplained) pressure on dis (although as a 3rd wagon). I like is desire for multiple trains but that seems NAI

*I haven't had a chance to read his latest - HtS wanted some EoD analysis* Okay, he's gone full red with his defense of prpl. I think we can have 2 wagons without defending one of them.

prplhz more like rdhz. No d1 excuse... no filter.. OMGUS vote on HtS. All of that could change if we get some d2 out of him. I particularly don't like + Show Spoiler +
you guys need to push this hts thing btw. don't know when's the last time i saw a scum be up for lynch and then oppose the alternative wagon (well okay i sort of did that when it was me or LS in titanic but that was probably a bad move lol).


sicklucker I've been waiting for some d2 content from him... all I see is statistical claims. (one of my favorite quotes of all times is "figures don't lie, but liars do the figuring"). Since then, I've always been a skeptic and need some proof(s). "75% of statistics are made up"

Stutters695 another "no d1" case... but picking up a bit more now. His posts seem to have direction but it's all at prp without much more than meta.

So far I'm not trying to form a scum team so I'm not concerned with a red read voting another red read.
Going to be on more now and looking into d2 more critically (especially the interactions of the reds and half red)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 19:43 GMT
#1257
On May 07 2015 03:08 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:34 Superbia wrote:
Like holy fucking shit. If you are town you are making this game ridiculously hard for me.


And if you're town, you'll resolve my concerns (or the concerns of any town who scumreads you). There are points I've gone about even with ritoky just now that make it less likely that you are scum. But I am putting out my thoughts in full so you see where I'm coming from. I have nothing to hide as town.

I'm not voting you down for shits and giggles. I'm explaining what I don't like and why I don't. And there are others I have a problem with as well.


I have you as town. This is why I feel this is a tremendous waste of time. Nothing personal, but once I think someone is town I'm kind of done with them.

can you explain your TR on HtS? Specifically when and how did you go from voting for her to TR?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 19:49 GMT
#1260
I agree they're probably not both scum with SL posting Super. As I said, I didn't evaluate them based on a team.

I didn't put super red because he was defending someone I read red. It was how he was how he was reading. He's defending someone who has a handful of posts just cause those few posts agree with him.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:15 GMT
#1273
Your lack of reading this whole game isn't giving your any points.

I have both of my "newb teammates" mostly town. I'm definitely giving them a lot of room as rookies though for how they played "up till now".

TS is leaning scum with lack of posts and even more lack of anything I see as helping Town. Waiting for more from him.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:16 GMT
#1275
EBWOP, i was answering super (and his lack of reading) not dis. (although doesn't change much regarding TS)

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#1286
Right now I think I'm most willing to vote SL. I'm really disappointed in his d2 content and reasons for voting super. (yes I have super red, but not for the same reasons - I feel like he's doing the most to confuse town) TS could still slip into a tie with prp.

y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:32 GMT
#1296
On May 07 2015 05:28 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:25 y0su wrote:
Right now I think I'm most willing to vote SL. I'm really disappointed in his d2 content and reasons for voting super. (yes I have super red, but not for the same reasons - I feel like he's doing the most to confuse town) TS could still slip into a tie with prp.



What do you make of the shining's reads?

trick question? show me one of his reads and I'll give you an answer.
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