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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:48 GMT
#1518
Playing dota at the moment, but I'll check back in once before I go to bed.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:49 GMT
#1521
On May 08 2015 04:48 sicklucker wrote:
Exhibit 3 you claimed rb in a veteran doctor setup (im under the impression since a veg would have shot its this setup)


OMG FFS

THERE

IS

NO

MEDIC/VETERAN

SETUP

You must be smoking the good stuff sicklucker. Seriously.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:51 GMT
#1527
Also I want to add one more thought.

There's the bussing factor.....but also start looking at people that straight up ignored prplhz. By not talking about prplhz at all in their discourse, they are keeping attention off him. This is another general scumtell.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:52 GMT
#1528
On May 08 2015 04:49 Superbia wrote:
Just let me know after doto. I think I have 2nd in sight. 3rd probably y0su or something.


I'm back in here already because the bloody network is down. Fuck Steam, seriously.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:56 GMT
#1531
On May 08 2015 04:48 Superbia wrote:
No need to defend myself, sweet.

HtS, what are your thoughts on stutters? Do you feel he is justified in going after prp that hard that early?


I missed this, sorry.

I need to look at his quotes. On one hand, he knows prplhz's meta, or thinks he does. In NSM7 town Stutters was tunnelled on prplhz and he did a full out meta read on him.

Filter is not indicative for Stutters, because he is a low postcount player as either alignment.

Ironically if I had to call Stutters scum for one thing - it's not pushing his other scumreads and a couple of us asked him what his other scumreads were. I had to filter dive to even speculate and he has yet to answer the question.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#1534
Dota network finally back up. Going to get a round in, I think.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#1535
On May 08 2015 04:58 sicklucker wrote:
Celesial might be


Why? What actions of his reflect a scumlike behaviour?

I realise no one is scumreading him but that in of itself isn't a problem.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 20:01 GMT
#1538
On May 08 2015 04:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 04:48 Superbia wrote:
No need to defend myself, sweet.

HtS, what are your thoughts on stutters? Do you feel he is justified in going after prp that hard that early?


I missed this, sorry.

I need to look at his quotes. On one hand, he knows prplhz's meta, or thinks he does. In NSM7 town Stutters was tunnelled on prplhz and he did a full out meta read on him.

Filter is not indicative for Stutters, because he is a low postcount player as either alignment.

Ironically if I had to call Stutters scum for one thing - it's not pushing his other scumreads and a couple of us asked him what his other scumreads were. I had to filter dive to even speculate and he has yet to answer the question.



I need to look at the timestamps a little more closely and see when he first started going off. There was a huge gap in prp's entrance post and then the next few posts after that.

Off the entrance it could reflect TMI.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 20:02 GMT
#1539
On May 08 2015 04:59 sicklucker wrote:
Hts can i plays dota with you


I just started a game now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 20:05 GMT
#1541
On May 08 2015 04:59 sicklucker wrote:
Hts can i plays dota with you


Add me if you're on the Steam TL group. I'm in game right now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 20:08 GMT
#1548
Wasn't there a soft push from prplhz on Stutters? Something along the lines of "I'm gonna read his filter tomorrow" or some shit?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 21:24 GMT
#1551
sicklucker, I just gave you the TL Mafia usergroup link. Loads of NA-side players that play dota. Played with BH/Hapa/Onegu and I know I've played with Palmar. Fun fun times.

EU West is trash lately though. Crashed twice tonight. GG Valve.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 21:30 GMT
#1553
Back on topic.

y0su's first read on prplhz was only late yesterday. Same for sicklucker.
Shining started scumming him end of day 1.

Tictock on the other hand was also scumming prplhz pretty early. Quotes to come.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 21:32 GMT
#1554
On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.


On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1.

Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on.


First scumread was at page 29, or 32 hours into Day 1.

Ehhhhh, at that time all prplhz had was his entrance which was shit and he had nothing but he was scumming prplhz for doing nothing. Which is a policy vote, which I can see a newbie doing.

The tone doesn't seem to reek of TMI though. Can I get a second opinion on this?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 21:33 GMT
#1555
I have to afk again. I'll be back post-lynch, if not, then tomorrow morning EU time.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 21:57 GMT
#1557
I lied. Don't need to go quite yet.

Stutters' first mention of prplhz is 18h into the game. Going through the filter again...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 21:57 GMT
#1558
On May 08 2015 04:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 04:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 08 2015 04:43 Superbia wrote:
SL are you dumbtelling? There is no vet.


I don't even know what a dumbtell is. *shrug*


Intentionally pretending you don't know what's going on to appear townie.


Ergh, he does this as both alignments :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:05 GMT
#1559
On May 08 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Also I want to add one more thought.

There's the bussing factor.....but also start looking at people that straight up ignored prplhz. By not talking about prplhz at all in their discourse, they are keeping attention off him. This is another general scumtell.


update on this - looking through everyone, not one person here in the game has ignored him. Back to the bussing factor/Stutters.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:08 GMT
#1560
On May 08 2015 05:05 Superbia wrote:
Like prp did not even bother defending himself, which means he's fine with trading for the doc. Hence, they likely have someone on the prp wagon who's going to look good.

Here is what stutters has done:
- Weak-ass push on scott (confirmed town).
- Getting caught lurking at EoD (incredibly scummy).
- TMI push on prp.
- Set up post-flip lynches on confirmed town.

Kill it with fire.


I agree with 1 and 3, 3 is tonal, but the point still stands, 2 I can see from a town perspective, he won't post just to post being a very low volume poster as either alignment.

He didn't like the push on me, but if he wasn't scumreading me as either alignment, there's no reason for him to post or to switch to me.

Looking into #4...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#1564
The one thing that really bugs me about Stutters is that he didn't respond to either y0su or myself about his other scumreads. Or maybe he did....this is what I have...

On May 06 2015 08:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Lynch prpl, then Super. Easy skins easy life.


On May 06 2015 08:50 Stutters695 wrote:
I'll worry about his teammates once I confirm he's scum.

Instead of wasting your time on me (spoiler alert, I'm not getting lynched. I'm here now and I've just gotten started) give me actual reasons why I shouldn't lynch prpl and we can find someone else. Until then, while you're hard defending my strongest scum read, I'm not going to stress too much about your thoughts.


Pretty evasive, hence my asking what he'd do if prplhz was replaced.

On May 06 2015 09:36 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 09:00 Superbia wrote:
Hmm okay. Can you give some thoughts on the people you have not mentioned yet on the list above? Apologies if you have mentioned them somewhere before. I always prefer to get your current reads and I don't really want to filter dive every time before I interact.

Yeah, if you want any detail it'll take a little. Short answers:

TT: could be scum or just inexperienced. Currently not someone I'd lynch today

Disinfo: would strongly consider lynching if prpl is scum. Without rereading, he doesn't stand out much except something I noted earlier between him and prpl.

Yosu: basically forgot he was playing, have to read more

Shining: ditto

SL: shit load of associations, way too early for them. Still would rather prpl but once I really get into reading up on everyone, I could easily see him.


Next sequence of quotes makes it more likely that ritoky is town and Stutters is scum -

On May 07 2015 03:43 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:58 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

[quote]

[quote]

he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.


Since n1 not d1, what the fuck are you on about revisionist history. I gave him d1 to do anything. He didn't. He still hasn't, that's scum prpl in a nutshell. HtS made additional points. If you won't do it from my posts, read hers and lynch him.


the only difference btwn d1 and n1 is scott flipped town. why does scott flipping town make prpl more likely mafia?


Because that gave him 48 hours to post and he hadn't done dick. Because he afk'd in his previous game as town for a day, he deserved the benefit of the doubt in case the weekend was bad but it's Wednesday now and he's still bad.


But he's soft pushed Sueprbia even. Looked at his filter closely, soft-pushed prplhz D1 and then cranked it up.

Eeesssssshhhhhhhhhhh.
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