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On May 07 2015 02:35 ritoky wrote:
personally i don't think i have a read on superbia. he is just null to me and i plan to keep him there. he is town for having non-conforming reads on d1. mafia superbia picks middle of the road easy reads day 1 and blends. but then he has been so aggressively trying to pocket me that it makes me wary and put him back to null. but he also has that sick ritoky town read....so dunno. claiming the RB when you're a high lynch candidate as scum is meh maybe he did that. i have done it before, tends not to help things but he could have.
Do Superbia's responses to me change your impression one way or another?
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Stutters, I think I asked you this question before, but I don't recall an answer earlier and I cannot find it in your filter.
If prplhz disappeared from the game, for whom would you vote?
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Tinfoil hat theory 1 - there's an active mafia in this game.
Tinfoil hat theory 2 - there's a mafia in disinformation/y0su/tictock and the mafia is blending in with his newbie teammates by looking newb.
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On May 07 2015 04:49 y0su wrote:
I didn't put super red because he was defending someone I read red. It was how he was how he was reading. He's defending someone who has a handful of posts just cause those few posts agree with him.
Alright, this makes more sense.
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On May 06 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
My thoughts on Superbia on EoD D1? I thought him to be a bully trying to push ppl around and provoke people into making mistakes. That is why I gave him such a knee jerk reaction after waffling for a moment. Which is was I was pretty much annoyed by him for a fair bit. I now rethought him and think he is a very aggressive townie opposed to a very aggressive mafia. But not 100% sure. He is still super hard to read for me.
You're also finding it hard to read Superbia I see. What do you also think of him with his responses to me?
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This is interesting. There's five fence sitters on Superbia, if I counted right.
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At the very least, it does give credence to Superbia's point on him being hard to follow.
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On May 07 2015 05:24 Superbia wrote:
Just start pushing it and they'll join up HtS.
And so far, only one of those fence-sitters actually gave an opinion on you post-response.
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On May 07 2015 05:26 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed. You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game? No, I did not. I looked at 2 games (both VT) and decided that there was a big enough disparity between the games to justify not defending him today.
Um Superbia....we were both in Titanic. You were vet, I was miller, prplhz was scum JOAT (more or less).
That should be a decent basis for comparison, you think this game is closer to that one?
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On May 07 2015 05:29 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:On May 07 2015 05:26 Superbia wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed. You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game? No, I did not. I looked at 2 games (both VT) and decided that there was a big enough disparity between the games to justify not defending him today. Um Superbia....we were both in Titanic. You were vet, I was miller, prplhz was scum JOAT (more or less). That should be a decent basis for comparison, you think this game is closer to that one? Wait we were? Let me check.
You don't remember that game? That was Titanic 7, I Have a Cunning Plan.
The Blackadder game where Sentinel had the two JKs. You and I both made it to late game. prplhz was the final scummer. You HAVE to remember.
ritoky was third party SK.
prplhz DID JACK ALL that game. If any game is good to meta, THAT'S THE ONE.
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On May 07 2015 05:32 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:28 Superbia wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 y0su wrote:
Right now I think I'm most willing to vote SL. I'm really disappointed in his d2 content and reasons for voting super. (yes I have super red, but not for the same reasons - I feel like he's doing the most to confuse town) TS could still slip into a tie with prp.
What do you make of the shining's reads? trick question? show me one of his reads and I'll give you an answer.
The question looks pretty direct tbh. I can see what he'd do with a range of answers and how they reflect upon your alignment.
Since you're new to TL you may not know how to filter dive. Go to the OP with the list of names - Kita has linked the name in the player list to a filter. Or go to any post of Shining's and click on "filter" in the upper right hand corner.
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On May 07 2015 05:38 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:31 Half the Sky wrote:On May 07 2015 05:29 Superbia wrote:On May 07 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:On May 07 2015 05:26 Superbia wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed. You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game? No, I did not. I looked at 2 games (both VT) and decided that there was a big enough disparity between the games to justify not defending him today. Um Superbia....we were both in Titanic. You were vet, I was miller, prplhz was scum JOAT (more or less). That should be a decent basis for comparison, you think this game is closer to that one? Wait we were? Let me check. You don't remember that game? That was Titanic 7, I Have a Cunning Plan. The Blackadder game where Sentinel had the two JKs. You and I both made it to late game. prplhz was the final scummer. You HAVE to remember. ritoky was third party SK. prplhz DID JACK ALL that game. If any game is good to meta, THAT'S THE ONE. Yeah his filter here looks similar to that one. I may actually have a good read on him if he actually flips scum here. I kind of forgot he was in that game. If I recall correctly slam red-checked him d4 or something? After I led the wagon on palmar.
Slam played DT extremely well. He red-checked Rasputin and prplhz and then he thought I might be SK, so he red-checked me (after all the scum were dead) to confirm I wasn't third party. And very good breadcrumbs on top of that.
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On May 07 2015 05:36 The Shining wrote:
Hell of a lot to read. Not used to a game that has multiple large post posters. Looking at you, Cel/HtS.
Yeh I prefer the case-based approach over conversational, but meh I can do either approach. You're lucky Trfel isn't in this game then.
Looking forward to the rest of your reads.
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On May 07 2015 05:39 y0su wrote:TS doesn't have any reads this game. I've posted that he's leaning scum but I'm still waiting for him to show up d2. since my Show nested quote +The Shining giving him red on tone. Very willing to reconsider if/when we get d2 stuff he's promised.
was a while ago I guess I'll should update that he's slipped into prpl territory.
Shining is posting as you are saying this with his reads....if you're scumreading him, why aren't you interacting with him?
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On May 07 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
Err...you, Trfel, Cel. Whatevs.
Ritoky still town btw. Me lynching prpl would be policy.
I need to really read yosu, TT, Stutters. Because by poe, I have Cel, HtS, Ritoky, Super town. I think there's an active scum in there.
The other 2 are deff between Yosu, TT, Stutters, Dis. And the fact I almost forgot Dis makes him prime suspect.
If I had to go tinfoil hat theory and come up with one reason why either of Celestial or ritoky were scum -
Celestial doesn't seem to be actually pushing anyone save prplhz, but he doesn't strike me as an overly aggressive type, certainly wasn't as mafia. I know I primed him on who else he found suspicious, he said y0su. That MIGHT be the only thing jumping at me if I had to go tinfoil on him.
ritoky as I've said many times before is a very good scum player. His strategy as mafia is making sure he's only the second worst in the bunch. I was scared because of what I felt were jumps in logic D1 when he said something about my overly diplomatic tone and the tonal shift.
The thing that jumps out at me on ritoky is that he scumread me D1 on a tonal shift or a tonal argument but then criticised the Superbia train based on the fact that the bases for the scumreads were tonal arguments.
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Those would be my two arguments on Celestial/ritoky if I had to go tinfoil on them. Right now, it's not really appropriate and whilst there is no perfect townie, it's something to think about if we're in a D4-beyond situation and they are still alive.
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On May 07 2015 06:05 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
Err...you, Trfel, Cel. Whatevs.
Ritoky still town btw. Me lynching prpl would be policy.
I need to really read yosu, TT, Stutters. Because by poe, I have Cel, HtS, Ritoky, Super town. I think there's an active scum in there.
The other 2 are deff between Yosu, TT, Stutters, Dis. And the fact I almost forgot Dis makes him prime suspect. If I had to go tinfoil hat theory and come up with one reason why either of Celestial or ritoky were scum - Celestial doesn't seem to be actually pushing anyone save prplhz, but he doesn't strike me as an overly aggressive type, certainly wasn't as mafia. I know I primed him on who else he found suspicious, he said y0su. That MIGHT be the only thing jumping at me if I had to go tinfoil on him. ritoky as I've said many times before is a very good scum player. His strategy as mafia is making sure he's only the second worst in the bunch. I was scared because of what I felt were jumps in logic D1 when he said something about my overly diplomatic tone and the tonal shift. The thing that jumps out at me on ritoky is that he scumread me D1 on a tonal shift or a tonal argument but then criticised the Superbia train based on the fact that the bases for the scumreads were tonal arguments.
EBWOP - meant to bold this as well.
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If this game doesn't have a DT, I swear I'm going to lose it post-game.
(No, DT should not claim. I'm just ranting.)
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