EPTOn April 24 2015 15:39 Breshke wrote:
Palmar what made you post this. What made me your number one town.
Palmar what made you post this. What made me your number one town.
I did not post this.
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Palmar
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Breshke
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If you had to take a guess why do you think the person who posted it posted it. | ||
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Damdred
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On April 24 2015 13:58 Trfel wrote: Would you rather I be confident in my play to a degree far higher than my skill at mafia warrants? One surefire way to find town players is to look at my scumreads. Here's what I'm thinking, and yamato77 is a scumread of mine. But I see ways that this read could be wrong, so I'm asking and sharing my thoughts. I could keep holding my thoughts to myself, and analyzing him myself, or I could leave it open to the rest of the thread, where everyone is better than me and can analyze this better than I can. It's a matter of honest, not a matter of alignment. I mean, if you want me to push my reads to the end of time, I can do that. If you want me to throw the game for town, I can do that as well. Up to you. 1) Underplaying yourself is one of the scummy things that I believe exists 2) The main issue is that you come out of the gate really strong on Yamato. Heres why I think hes scum, and you line up all these reasons but then at the very read you dismiss yourself and make it seem like you aren't strong on him at all. 3) How do you know its throwing the game if you push your Yamato read forever? If you think hes scum legitimately you wouldn't think you would be throwing the game, if you are scum you know that it will lose the game for town. Hence why you just said "If you want me to throw the game for town" you said for town because you aren't town. ##Vote Trfel | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
^^ cause I can yay final out usaf and i have no job to go to woooot so much fun hasta la vista, chump xP | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Damdred's Trfel case is bad. Doubt is a town trait for Trfel. What I'm more worried about is that he artifically inserted doubt when I pointed out how his read on me was too strong for his normal towngame, and thus became more doubtful in general. What's stopping me from going full yolo on a Trfel lynch is that he feels very reasonable. He keeps re-evaluating me (even though I don't understand at all how he comes to his conclusions, on me at least) and seems to be very fluid in his reads, which is something that's very difficult as scum. I think I want to lynch Palmar today. Trfel said he's been trolling, but I feel like Palmar hasn't really trolled as much as not giving a shit. He's pushed Wave mostly without much reasoning and has just not given a lot of shits about anything else. He made this one terrible list post that didn't have any reasons which Marv once told me is a hallmark of his scumgame (and he hasn't posted any reads lists as town since Imperial whilst he has as scum). His 'town meta' of not doing anything is easily replicable as scum. He's been townread for it before, I see no reason why he wouldn't attempt to replicate it as town. There's no reason to read Palmar as town, his unsubstantiated reads list is scummy and he hasn't truly trolled in a way that causes people to rise up against him. It's been calculated play. ##Vote Palmar | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
mmm art i kinda had the same thought earlier this morning but uh...meh anyway try not to lynch anyone -_- the truffle vote is simply wrong, and regardless there's no need to rush -poofs- | ||
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Palmar
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Palmar
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I'm torn on the rest of you people. And WoS is mafia. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Yammy hardly even acknowledged my case on WaveOfShadow, never really pushed the idea he might be scum and never cleared it either. here, take a look at all the suspicion yammy threw at wos. I'll bold some hard accusations of things that if we believe yamato believes in, should make him super suspicious of Wave. On April 21 2015 11:43 yamato77 wrote: "I don't use meta" is a nice and convenient excuse to avoid giving a legitimate read on me at this stage in the game. Still, the fact remains, you said I could do this as mafia, what basis do you have to make that statement, exactly? On April 21 2015 11:45 yamato77 wrote: Because it's a statement with no basis. "I could see Yamato doing this as either alignment" is tantamount to saying "I could see Yamato doing this as mafia." Why do you think that's the case, precisely, if you aren't using meta? Why mention me by name at all if you're just going to make some sort of puffball generalized statement? Very strange, Wave. Then Yamato made this post here: On April 22 2015 06:13 yamato77 wrote: well, right now you're bitching when there are only 2 votes on you granted, you've been under pressure the whole game so far, but so what? If you're town you can deal with it and produce convincing reads. If you're mafia we just lynch you. Which seems to indicate he's still interested in lynching Wave, but what happens after that? Nothing. Look at this picture of yamato's filter where I'm looking for the word "wave" ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/7tNWqTd) After all this suspicion he has NOTHING to follow up on it and idly parks his vote basically on artanis for what was a bullshit reason. Yamato is mafia. It's highly likely as per my case yesterday that WoS is too. I will support a lynch today on either of them and no one else. See you later it's weekend and I'm turning 30  | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
##vote yamato The whole point is his words don't fit his actions. I feel his accusation against artanis (the excuse to not do anything thing) was much, much weaker than his accusations against wave, yet that's where his vote ended up. | ||
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Damdred
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Damdred
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I have a reason to tr Everton outside of trfel, art palmar I think. So yea | ||
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Palmar
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Damdred
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I thought Yamato looked good early decent activity ok content, waves picked up later | ||
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Palmar
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On April 25 2015 01:42 Damdred wrote: I'll reread there interactions but I don't think it looks mafiaxmafia. I thought Yamato looked good early decent activity ok content, waves picked up later Half of what Yamato did early was argue with wos only to never follow it up | ||
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Trfel
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On April 25 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote: But he didn't really follow up with his other pushes either.Half of what Yamato did early was argue with wos only to never follow it up That or he just likes to feign complete confidence in his reads without actually being that confident in them. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 25 2015 01:42 Damdred wrote: I'll reread there interactions but I don't think it looks mafiaxmafia. I thought Yamato looked good early decent activity ok content, waves picked up later What is this? Why are you instantly trying to look at them as a scumteam instead of looking at if they're scum individually? What's this unflipped association thing? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Trfel
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