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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 00:50 GMT
#1420
mmm i might be okay with a palmar lynch

i guess breshke could just be having an awful game?

i dunnae how likely it is for bresh and wave to hard townread each other all game...WIFOM pure WIFOM, however truffle did point out that Wave's reasons for the bresh townread were particularly weak for the strength of his read (top town pretty much all game)

TMI or?

and there's still the section of the game where i was arguing with the both of them, he insisted the lynch should be between him (mafia goon) and yamato, that no one would ever lynch bresh or should even consider it and i was scummy as fuck for being so stubborn

then there's bresh with pointing out how odd that was and how it could be catering to wave's win condition but he didn't think so lol ><

so here's my question. what possible value could mafia goon Wave have in limiting the lynch between himself and (presumably) town yamato if breshke were also town?

that he was the goon...

plus the post from bresh that rubbed me wrong when he posted it. give me a sec to find it again
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 00:53 GMT
#1421
On April 28 2015 14:01 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 13:52 rsoultin wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:
Wave's post of "me or yamato" has really caught me off guard by the way.


...does that make you think anything about his alignment or what?


Obviously yes.

I'm pushing for this 3 man lynch idea and he just totally take myself out of the equation and continues to push the person I am scum reading.

Theoretically this is probably how wave wins the game. Get's the lynch on yamato today only needs one townie to be wrong tomorrow which would be me because his defense of me is really really compelling to read him town.

The thing is I don't think im wrong on yamato so even if I wasn't reading wave town this would be another reason to not lynch him as he is basically pushing what I think is a mafia lynch.

Also a side note Rso I also think your thoughts that wave and especially myself are mafia is affecting how you look at yamato.


this post lol ><

dunnae seemed really strange, almost like breshke was setting up for the possibility of a wave or a yamato flip here
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 00:55 GMT
#1422
i know i seem tunneled and in effect i probably am but there's just too much weirdness and frankly i cannot see any reason whatsoever for wave to take breshke off the table if breshke is town
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 00:59 GMT
#1424
lol >< if you want to do that be my guest? i'd rather lynch who i most think is scum though xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 01:11 GMT
#1427
On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.

The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.

That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong.


the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs-

i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 01:17 GMT
#1429
On April 30 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:
On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.

The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.

That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong.


the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs-

i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic


Yeah your right. So you think my play as scum is to limit the lynch to me my scumbuddy and one town?


lol you think you were calling the lynch? xP

it's not like people were really talking about anyone else
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 01:28 GMT
#1432
lol umm

considering the two voting for bresh ended up voting for wave i think your assessment is off truffle
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 03:12 GMT
#1437
When you do what? Youre gonna have to quote what you mean. Cause frankly the lynch was between you three anyway. So why should i be impressed if youre echoing that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 12:00 GMT
#1457
-_- obviously that was me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 12:03 GMT
#1458
meh could lynch palmar here actually lol >< i don't know if he's scum here but i do know that i'm not losing to him as scum playing this way pbbbbbffftt xP play you ninny -_-

##unvote

but what i'm gonna do is not vote and if i'm back in time to vote and also read enough to make a good one xP then that's fine
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 12:58 GMT
#1464
o.0

breeeesh i was just about to say you were looking better today and drop my vote on palmar

##vote Palmar

which i think i'm gonna do anyway, unless there's a good reason i won't be home by deadline, but

lol wth is that last bit? ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:06 GMT
#1468
##unvote
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:13 GMT
#1472
have to agree with art o.0 that makes no sense palmar
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:23 GMT
#1477
lol

palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous

i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:27 GMT
#1482
On April 30 2015 22:25 Palmar wrote:
Like to me the only realistic option for an alternative to Artanis is Yamato because of the other case I made this game that is probably still valid. I was just less sure on yamato than WoS.


i could see yamato actually but i dunnae that exchange at the beginning of the game looks hella weird as scum on scum

not impossible but weird

do you disagree?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:28 GMT
#1484
lol and i'm my usual self i lynched him because i couldn't get my lynch and because i didn't like him when we talked (namely he spent more time doing anything but pushing his scumread) -_- i know i play like a scrub but when i try to play with logic i'm actually wrong more frequently crazy as that seems
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:30 GMT
#1486
On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.

I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game.


Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore?

What do you think i didn't think about critically?

Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me.

At least im meeting palmars expectations


i don't really like you for your last post -_-

but whatever

who should we lynch?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:32 GMT
#1489
i'm out btw

no palmar i'm not lynching today unless i have time before EoD to review everything

might i suggest you do a little more work than just who is meeting your expectations? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:33 GMT
#1492
On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol

palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous

i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP

This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw.

You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how.

It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think.

I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion.

So... how do you do this?

You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate?

Go forth and try.

You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all.


i'm not interested in arguing with town xP stop defending yourself when no one is lynching you it just makes me want to really be awful and spite vote you for lolz
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 30 2015 13:36 GMT
#1498
On April 30 2015 22:33 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 22:30 rsoultin wrote:
On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:
On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.

I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game.


Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore?

What do you think i didn't think about critically?

Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me.

At least im meeting palmars expectations


i don't really like you for your last post -_-

but whatever

who should we lynch?


Wtf did you start liking me for then because between that post and from when you last said you ddint like me ive done fuck all.

at this stage my default answer is palmar but i wont be voting for him until I look into him which ill be doing tomorrow.


wow now you're reading half my posts! lol it was in the same post you twit
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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