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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:31 GMT
#492
Btw, status report (I haven't really read the game)

Sorta townie:

Trfel
rsoultin

Maybe townie

artanis
yamato
breshke

Not read a single post:

Damdred
BH

Mafia

WoS
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:32 GMT
#495
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:28 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2015 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2015 23:28 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2015 21:18 Breshke wrote:
Palmar you are obviously ignoring the context though. From what I understand the thrid vote in IML can be seen as safe for scum as they vote on a misslynch but arnt the creator of the push nor one of the hammers. Therefore one could say that scum might join a wagon at this time to blend into town while still getting the misslynch they need. So while WoS said the vote was safe he ment it was safe way for scum to try and secure a misslynch.

Yes a third vote in this type of instant misslynch is even safer but in context it doesn't move towards scums goal of getting a misslynch as a push that early is not likely to be sustained over a 24 hour period. So yes while you are strictly right that the vote was infact safer it can't be seen as pushing for a misslynch as much.



I don't even care about the context.

He did something because of X
Then it turns out X was even more right than he initially thought
So he retracts because of X

This makes no logical sense, thus he must be mafia.

To be precises.

He retracted NOT because of this new information he had gained. He retracted BECAUSE HE WANTED TO RETRACT and used this new information as an excuse to do so.


Yeah palmar that's blatantly untrue, you're just as bad as BH inventing your own narrative for why I did what I did. Early votes in what barely amounts to an IML game aren't as indicative as those when every cote counts all the time.

'safety' isn't a factor when the votes 2h into a game generally don't mean shit.


If safety isn't a factor why did you say breshke could be mafia for a safe vote?

Also don't worry about it. These morons will never lynch you because reasons.

lol wtf are you talking about? Now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Of course I said safety is a factor, IF IT'S IML, OR the lynch is about to go down with some urgency. Breshke absolutely could have been mafia for a 'safe' vote in an IML game where I could have literally been lynched if any two other people decided to derp for shits and giggles. I've seen it happen.

Safety is NOT a factor 2h into this game. How many votes are taken seriously 2h into a standard game?


oh I get what you're saying.

You're still mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:32 GMT
#496
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

I am playing the game. Please stop antagonizing me it's really annoying.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:34 GMT
#499
On April 23 2015 00:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

I am playing the game. Please stop antagonizing me it's really annoying.

You first.

I am not antagonizing you, I think you're mafia.

During the time that I've been trying to get you lynched you haven't even pretended to care about my alignment in the slightest, instead choosing to attack me personally or just calling everything I'm doing shit.

This makes you mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:38 GMT
#500
I could be wrong you know? There's no need to be a dick about it if I am. Although your responses of complete dismissal, instead of actually using me building a case on you to investigate my alignment, make you look even worse than what I said during my case.

On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
You want someone to pressure into playing?
There's your perfect example.

##vote:palmar

I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it.


On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'

Gj

Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote?


On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:39 GMT
#502
To me it simply looks like you don't actually care about my alignment at all.

Whatever, we'll see.

Maybe people will join me. That'd be rad. It's not like I'm always wrong on day 1.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:39 GMT
#503
On April 23 2015 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit.

If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.


As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry.

Who's mafia then?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:41 GMT
#505
On April 23 2015 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:38 Palmar wrote:
I could be wrong you know? There's no need to be a dick about it if I am. Although your responses of complete dismissal, instead of actually using me building a case on you to investigate my alignment, make you look even worse than what I said during my case.

On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
You want someone to pressure into playing?
There's your perfect example.

##vote:palmar

I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it.


On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'

Gj

Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote?


On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.


I don't think I'm being a dick in the slightest. I haven't attacked you personally, I've attacked your play. There are how many other people in this game Palmar? Even IF I'm scum, that doesn't solve the game, and there's stuff to be done, but you're stuck tunneling on me here, not contributing to any other conversation and not finding other scum. How is that good play exactly?

I will retract my statements about your afking/barely playing if you actually show you're capable of doing something mroe but so far I don't see it.


It's good play because you're mafia
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:42 GMT
#508
On April 23 2015 00:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:39 Palmar wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit.

If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here.
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.


As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry.

Who's mafia then?

Right now I have BH and maybe Trfel.

Who's second scum Palmar?

I have no idea, it's not like I've read the game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:47 GMT
#509
I guess I'll read some other people tonight. Wos is mafia though I'm like 63% sure
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 21:57 GMT
#559
I have no idea whether or not BH is mafia. If you want my opinion on it you'll have to wait a cycle.

But tbh, I don't particularly care, you can lynch him if you want to.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 23:29 GMT
#613
Breshke is my #1 town
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:01 GMT
#635
I am okay with this
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:07 GMT
#640
so it's 6v2 now.

That means if we mislynch today we're at 5v2 and 4v2 with a death night 2. That means day 3 will be mylo.

So, whatever blue role made this happen today should claim. Expained while in spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +

There is a chance mafia held their shot here (if they even can do that). If they did, all they have to do in mylo tomorrow is to claim doctor and target to get out of a mylo mislynch free, of course they will be counterclaimed but it's still... meh. Like if the real blue role is a cop and mafia claims doc with a save on someone likely on day 3, who do you think we'll believe?

I really think the correct play here is to claim, especially if it's a soft confirm (doc/roleblocker).

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:09 GMT
#641
On April 24 2015 09:02 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, any thoughts on the game?

At the moment mostly setup speculative.

Like I'm hoping we get two free clears out of this and thus we could even fucking RNG and still have a 50% shot of hitting mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#645
On April 24 2015 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
So D3 we no lynch if it gets to that point.

I _think_ that doesn't matter. Because we could still not lynch two people so we'd be lynching between claims.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:12 GMT
#647
On April 24 2015 09:11 rsoultin wrote:
lol the first thought that went through my head was...

the fuck? we can't be that wrong about everything that scum would rather no-shoot >< blah now i have to reread

oooor apparently can kill two of us the next night -_- if they no-shoot

lovely

Where does it say that?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:13 GMT
#648
Like if mafia has that stacking thing mechanism (hold a shot, kill 2 the next night) there should be absolutely no claims.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#652
Yes I found it.

So I'm bad sorry. Mafia absolutely held their shot. They always do when this option is available. ALWAYS.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 24 2015 00:22 GMT
#657
On April 24 2015 09:20 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 09:15 Palmar wrote:
Yes I found it.

So I'm bad sorry. Mafia absolutely held their shot. They always do when this option is available. ALWAYS.


I don't really get that. Like if there is a detective role they are just letting them get a free check. By not killing anyone they ensure our Pr doesn't die and if we have a saving role using two KP in one night feels like it increases the chances that they will get a save.

Does anyone have any conclusions from BH flipping town because i got none currently



20% chance to hit a detective role mafia doesn't know is in the game is so shitty that they'd never take it. If mafia shoots it's to shoot a townie they want to get rid of, or medic dodging. But that also potentially gives town information.

It's just easily the best play to hold the shot and leave town in the dark. The first indication of what mafia wants to do will be given in lylo (or mylo)

Anyway, I'm going to sleep. I have an idea or two on what I want to do today but I want to read more first. I was lazy during the night and didn't really read much at all.
Computer says mafia
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