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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 05:46 GMT
#902
On April 23 2015 14:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I was talking about day 1 and I noted that he fell off a lot more during day 2.



But you are still town reading him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 05:48 GMT
#903
And it's not like his day 1 was amazing either and something he is completely capable of as mafia. There should be no way it's any more than null for him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 05:54 GMT
#905
I already have brought up my points on him. Plus the post I just brought up, when do you expect a town damdred to only have PoE reads?


But you know the other thing that bothered me about you Obi? When I was scum reading BM day 1 I asked your thoughts on him and all you gave me was he is in the game. Why not give me something? Why be non committal?


Anyway it's 2 am here I'll see you guys in the AM.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 13:46 GMT
#917
On April 23 2015 14:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate you so much it's unreal.


<3. Really hope you are scum this game OWS.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 17:14 GMT
#943
On April 24 2015 01:16 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 23:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 23 2015 23:54 LeiNadk wrote:
Busy day preparing for a presentation, so just an update and I will post my reasoning in a few hours:

I still think Scott is a scum.
Damdred is a town. I do note that Damdred is posting less than Day 1, but I give him the benefit of doubt.
BM being shot threw me off a little, because I thought he and Scott were a pair.
As for OWS, I need to filter him.


woahhhhh what? you thought the guy that pushed scott the entire game and made cases on him and tried to get him lynched was with scott? :O :O


+1, exactly my thought.

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On April 24 2015 00:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Have people actually read onegu?
Everyone is coming in to talk about stuff but nobody talks about him at all.


Onegu did the vote on me and when I showed my post - he never replied or commented on it and left his vote.

He instantly votes Obi when day two starts - I did check the database on his last town and mafia game - Although about 80% of both are one liners, he posts more as one as town and does not get very emotional, even after rayn attempted to make him emotional - and Rayn can go off the deep end. For "meta" - I did not find anything conclusive from my point of view either way.

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 01:01 Damdred wrote:
I honestly don't know what to do honestly, I don't even have a halfway decent poe lol.



I like this post, he's almost twisting his words too much to be honest, honestly. I still see him slight town

---

LeiNadk can you explain why I am scum? I posted a reply on your case a few days ago - do you have any questions for me?



I did comment on it after you said you wrote in bolded points. I said you using to point this is only your second game isn't a valid excuse for you.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 17:17 GMT
#945
On April 24 2015 02:15 Holyflare wrote:
of course it is a valid excuse what are you smoking


No it's not he has obs like 50 games
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 17:27 GMT
#949
On April 24 2015 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
obsing does not make you know how to play the game, already explained it's like watching tv and being a world class footballer, the skills just don't translate



It's soccer. And it lets you at least step on the field in shape and hold your own in a clebrity game...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 17:43 GMT
#952
I could do a damdy lynch at this point also
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 17:46 GMT
#956
FYI I have a 4pm EST doctors appointment and will be leaving at 3:30 will try to check in from phone but no promises
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 18:08 GMT
#963
I'm down

##UNVOTE

##Vote: Damdred
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 18:09 GMT
#965
On April 24 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
How is that a good case at all. Peoples activity dying for 72 hours or more if they gave good responses is suspicious.

So what if I had to think about the two vote leaders. I'm kinda surprised obi is sleeping it so easily honestly



Yeah you are most like likely busing each other here
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 18:26 GMT
#977
On April 24 2015 03:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
On April 24 2015 03:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##unvote
##vote onegu


Back to onegu for posting garbage.
Onegu needs to get lynched ASAP.


this is purely out of spite for saying you're bussing?


Yes. It's an incredibly scummy statement to make.



I've been saying you are a scum team have you not been reading?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 18:33 GMT
#981
On April 24 2015 03:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 03:26 Onegu wrote:
On April 24 2015 03:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 24 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
On April 24 2015 03:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##unvote
##vote onegu


Back to onegu for posting garbage.
Onegu needs to get lynched ASAP.


this is purely out of spite for saying you're bussing?


Yes. It's an incredibly scummy statement to make.



I've been saying you are a scum team have you not been reading?


You said we were a scumteam because we were reading each other for bad reasons.
Then a case comes up and I think it's good, so I vote Damdred.
You then say it's a bus, because ????

Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.


When two players are on the same scum team and one player votes the other that's call a bus...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 18:39 GMT
#985
On April 24 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
Don't male unflipped associations

I'm not I think you are both scummy for independent reasons. Then the connections add on.


HF you happy yet?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 19:10 GMT
#990
On April 22 2015 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
i wanna see an onegu/obi fight

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 19:12 GMT
#992
On April 24 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
what's your point?


Asked if you were happy
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 23:13 GMT
#1018
Im back home
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 23:15 GMT
#1019
Wait What....
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 23:25 GMT
#1020
Huh, Scott your reason for TR OWS is because he was the first to to vote for the cakepie lynch? Really thats all you got for TR him so hard? I am looking at your filter for TR him and thats really what you got...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2015 23:29 GMT
#1022
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 02:55 scott31337 wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 21 2015 11:59 Bill Murray wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 21 2015 10:59 scott31337 wrote:
cakepie (5):, Bourneq, HolyFlare, scott, trfel OWS
scott31337 (5): Bill Murray, Onegu, LeiNadk, cakepie damd
Bourneq (1): The Shining
Trfel (1): LightningStrike

Not voting (1): prplhz

LS voted for Trfel so he wouldn't vote for a townie, but then did - I think Trfel's town. The Shining left his vote on Bourneq and we haven't heard from him either recently.

Cakepie shows Bourneq vote first (I'll have to find the unvote listing as well) - HF, Scott, Trfel, OWS - but OWS was on earlier before trying to start on LS.
The wagon on me has been some slight townie leads and a flipped VT - although I'm still suspicious of BM though.

OWS and Trfel would be my top towns

BM and Bourneq, maybe Onegu? would be at the bottom.

If you have any questions, feel free. [/QUOTE]
why do you scumread the people that arent on the townie wagon that got lynched[/QUOTE]

Because both wagons are town. OWS started on Cakepie, and then tried to go on LS and back on Cakepie, but from his posts he has been giving - and trying to start the LS wagon - I'm pretty sure he is town.
You have gone after Trfel and myself and he's my other townread.
HF hasn't done enough and who he replaced didn't do anything either. Tomorrow is a new day to reevaluate.
LS was honest with not liking either wagon (Neither did I) although a throw away vote looks bad.

---
+ Show Spoiler [LeiNadk's Post] +

On April 21 2015 13:35 LeiNadk wrote:
My case on Scott:
I started looking into Scott after he asked Trfel this question:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:
What do you think of the LS/Damdred exchange? I know LS can be intimidated - and avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy.

And later gave his read to OWS as:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -

I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.

Everyone else null ATM

I let my first suspicion known at that point, because he was interested in LS/Damdred exchanged and stated that LS avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy.
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 14:29 LeiNadk wrote:
My thoughts so far:

First of all, I'm watching Bourne not because of Trfel's logic but because of the fact that he said he was going to sleep but stuck around as evident from his comment after Trfel's entrant post. I feel like he is carefully following the game without making it seems like he is.

As for Damdred and LS exchange, Damdred seems like he is just trying to get some sort of read and LS is handling it calmly. I'm getting strong town vibe from both of them to be frank. I haven't played with them before. If they are very skilled players, then I can't be sure.

For Shining, I don't know but nothing out of ordinary.

Scott, seems to be jumping from here and there.. I can't say he is a strong town. I am very thankful for answering my question though.

So I asked him for the reasons why:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -

I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.

Everyone else null ATM

Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town?

His answer, not quite satisfying to me but I didn't press on.
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:


Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far.

Later when TBD shows up, he immediately asks for his reads:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 15:34 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 15:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Good morning guys.


Evening - Do you mind if I call you TBD or Dwarf?

What do you think so far?

On April 19 2015 15:57 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 15:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I mean YUROP TOO STRONG TO DIE


I read your last game and you are about as useful so far and got mislynched. If you are town this game can you step it up and learn from your mistakes?

Do you have any reads?

And he pressure votes merely 40 minutes later. Keep in mind that most of the players including himself doesn't have a solid read at this point. BM, cake, and plotspot haven't even posted anything yet.
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote:
I think you need some encouragement.

## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf


And TBD's total posts after that are (pretty much nothing):
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 20 2015 00:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 11:07 Trfel wrote:
*Entrant Post

Really good post. This post made some of my views from the last game stronger. I think I will re read this again later in the game.

On April 20 2015 00:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 15:57 scott31337 wrote:
On April 19 2015 15:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I mean YUROP TOO STRONG TO DIE

Do you have any reads?

No, I don't have any reads yet.

On April 20 2015 00:24 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote:
I think you need some encouragement.

## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf



Candy would encourage me more

On April 20 2015 00:42 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Ofc I could make reads like this that add nothing to this game except more pages. Maybe I should do that coz it makes me look good. I just wanted to be honest and said that I have no reads yet

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw TheBloodyDwarf complaining on the lack of Europeans in this thread. Also Shining had a question which will now be answered:
On April 19 2015 14:57 The Shining wrote:
LightningStrike When you get back I want to see you actually do something. All I could gather from your posts is you're worried about getting scumread and you'll answer questions tomorrow. Can I get some preliminary reads from you when you do come back? I'm sure you'll have some thoughts on the posts you read when you wake up.

Okay let's be honest here I usually get scumread for my early reads list by most people but here some thoughts on people:
OWS: Null he haven't done much yet but I know when he post more I can give more of a accurate meta read because he haven't posted much.
Shinging: Maybe Town you seem to be trying actually but I haven't forgiven you on being scum in our last game together
LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL.
Tfrel: Null he can do most of his stuff as both alignments (Hinted at pregame he would do a really large post)
Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null.
Bourneq: Null he haven't really done much.
Also Bourneq I'm here what's your thoughts so far?

Sry LightningStrike

On April 20 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey veterans here.
What is your experience about inactive players that come to thread with post stating their reason for inactivity and haven't posted at all.

How many times they have been scums? I mean just inactivity on day1 gives them like "free" day. Less posts, less scumhunting on them.


On April 20 2015 07:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:
For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous.

This is a must read.

Wow, I have been banned several times on this website but damn, now there is name that I should look forward to when playing mafia. Such a legend.

+ Show Spoiler +
/jk

Do I need to even need to stay this?

AND Scott drops the vote + no content post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 20 2015 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
What a night! Let me catch up in the thread -

TBD picked it up a little bit, but he's still on a tight leash for now.

## Unvote

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 01:30 Bill Murray wrote:
PS I'm Vanilla Townie and we need a massclaim in all likelihood. If scum don't CC power roles we will likely have around a 60% chance to win


What the hell is this BM? This is a terrible idea and you know it.

BM roles scum like 80% of the time anyway, RNG gods love him.

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:
For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous.

This is a must read.


That's an excellent read - although I have before - the whole banlist is worth a read too.

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
Yeah this isn't going to be a fun game at all for me. Anyway my answers already there


Are you feeling okay - or? Sorry to hear that.

Looks like others went over BM's terrible idea already...

And then Bill Murry makes a case on Scott. I agree with only a few points and I disagree with the rest of BM's case:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 20 2015 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -

I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.

Everyone else null ATM

his one town post, the above, even feels forced. he throws out a couple leans as bones to the town, and then goes on to finish it with the almighty "Everyone is null"

Yeah it's early in the game but this is different. This is him trying to coast through while having activity for the sake of activity without committing to any analysis whatsoever.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:
On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:
On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -

I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.

Everyone else null ATM

Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town?


Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far.

From your message I assumed you have played IRL mafia before, correct?

There is the TL Mafia Database that has information on others mafia games played on this site - if you want to look into peoples previous games.


When directly questioned comes up with a bullshit excuse based upon "he feels obi and damdred are town"

His rebuttal to those two points made by BM were not convincing to me, especially this one:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:
Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair?


Conclusion:
He pretends to be actively participating in scumhunting He seems to be more active than some of the lurkers, but he isn't providing any useful contents. He asks for reads from TBD and cake, literally two most inactive people, rather than from people who are actually interacting with each other. His pressure vote on TBD was awkward and it didn't bring about any result. He doesn't have any good reads, just some general townie feelings on few. I think he is a mafia.


To answer about TBD once again - He was looking just like the last game he played (Student VII) and I wanted to get him going when he entered the thread. Others had not entered the thread yet and I do know know if they live on the other side of the world and are even awake. I wanted him to do a little more posting, which he did - (It wasn't great, but it was something) so I dropped my vote, it accomplished in my opnion what I wanted it to do, which was get him talking a little more. TBD's position has been modkilled and flipped VT. Does that make sense?

--

Question to Scott:
I don't understand what you are trying to say with who-voted-what.
Please explain why OWS and Trfel are your top towns.
And why is Onegu maybe a mafia.

^
To answer -
Trfel has been making strong points, noting things like LS's weird vote, researching filters, and making cases. He is encouraging conversation in I would say a somewhat inactive thread. I'm pretty confident he's town.

OWS has been doing quite the same, although just not as much of a time sink. He points out suspicious thoughts, areas of concern, and is trying to solve the game. .

I think I know Onegu's plan after reading his filter. I'm going to wait until tomorrow on him.

I'll try to find more time for the other posts.




[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:
LS -

[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 10:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck I shot Tfrel because I thought he was scum for his hammer................................ Vig here I'm sorry I killed you Tfrel T_T[/QUOTE]
So as much as I think this was a bad shot, I can see your reasoning... :/ Espically when we agreed at Bourneq last night (Although Bourneq had a pretty good defense) Me and Trfel we're having the same thoughts and connecting well.

So since your conftown now, Could you give your thoughts on the rest of the game?

[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 05:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, when I look at your filter, it seems that your only real scumread is me. This isn't a problem in and of itself, but I would like to have you explain why you don't see anyone else as scummy?[/QUOTE]
I already got scott as one if you are scum based on EoD stuff going down. I still struggling on the 3rd person to be scum with you and scott if you both are scum.[/QUOTE]

Do you still think I'm scum LS?

---
Obi -

[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 06:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote:
Because Obi with like no reasons behind his reads[/QUOTE]

It's almost like I've explained my reads or you could ask about the ones you don't understand or don't like.

:o[/QUOTE]

I've reread your filter, and although you point in townie directions - I'm not seeing your reads. You said HF was possible scum and rescinded that read - Damd is town? Onegu?

--
My thoughts -

HF is actually participating in the game, better then his one post replacement.

I didn't see too much in LeiNadk's "case" though, just a lot of quotes and asking about TBD, which I responded to.

Onegu has not changed much - when I said earlier I thought I knew what his plan was, I thought he was scraping under the radar. Now that we have LS as the Vig, that idea is out the window. [/QUOTE]



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