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On April 21 2015 04:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 04:22 LightningStrike wrote:On April 21 2015 04:09 Holyflare wrote:On April 21 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:LightningStrikeSome people don't learn. I am one of them. On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Ls what are your current reads Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT  She also my whisper so listen to her on me. Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! This is a post that LightningStrike made in TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy. Note that he provided a bunch of town reads, and then a bunch of null reads. No scumreads at all. On April 19 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw TheBloodyDwarf complaining on the lack of Europeans in this thread. Also Shining had a question which will now be answered: On April 19 2015 14:57 The Shining wrote:
LightningStrike When you get back I want to see you actually do something. All I could gather from your posts is you're worried about getting scumread and you'll answer questions tomorrow. Can I get some preliminary reads from you when you do come back? I'm sure you'll have some thoughts on the posts you read when you wake up. Okay let's be honest here I usually get scumread for my early reads list by most people but here some thoughts on people: OWS: Null he haven't done much yet but I know when he post more I can give more of a accurate meta read because he haven't posted much. Shinging: Maybe Town you seem to be trying actually but I haven't forgiven you on being scum in our last game together LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL. Tfrel: Null he can do most of his stuff as both alignments (Hinted at pregame he would do a really large post) Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null. Bourneq: Null he haven't really done much. Also Bourneq I'm here what's your thoughts so far? Compare that to LightningStrike's first post in this game. Notice the similarities? He actually doesn't provide a scumread for the entire game. Almost all of his filter is asking questions. The vast majority of his reads are in this one post. On April 20 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly this game si rather inactive and it kinda bad because scum can just hang back and not post :| LightningStrike didn't do anything to change the thread activity, he isn't pressuring anyone. LightningStrike is actually a good lynch here. ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike yeh that doesn't make him mafia  sorry ls :D :D :D + Show Spoiler +Don't talk about on going games bro i'm not?
You know what I mean lol......
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On April 21 2015 03:59 Damdred wrote:zzzz Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Yes gobbledydook been pretty inconsistent and his posting is weird but it's still early in the day and I never played with him before so I can't use meta on him
I still finding it weird you got a instant town read on me after I posted like twice before you called me town.
Here my pile for each type of read for now:
Town:
Rayn: Brought a early case and been pushing it pretty hard.
Lian: Because he actually trying this game asking some good questions towards oh and he not copying my meta like he did in Void I think it was.
Geript: His first post seem very much like his play in Student V although he seem to wasting some posts on fluff though if he trying to limit his posting.
Keirathi: He been very defensive early due to rayns case and kept on telling ryan he is town it really odd play from him also asking lots of questions and trying to lead discussion with rayn
Damdred: Seems like himself asking questions but he doing a over the top meta read on me is kind of unusual for him to do that on me o.o
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OWS: Lots of 1 liners and lacking much content from him to make a good read on him.
Slam: I finding it hard to read him this game but everyone told me he's hard to read correctly but his vote on Keirathi without much reason is striking me odd.
sicklucker: I can't read him correctly anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was scum on Day 1 I need to see his play in N1 and D2 to see if he's town or scum.
LM: Never posted.
must of been scum here to. wait he was town. Like I said in guardians that's not how you read ls
I think that was Day 1 of Slytherin when someone asked me for my reads on everyone.
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Hello Prplhz welcome to the game! After catching up can I have your thoughts please?
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I think Cake is at best a policy lynch and I not fond of policy lynches myself. I thought his content was decent when he was around he just a inactive town most likely.
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On April 21 2015 05:58 Damdred wrote:
Explain to me how cake is a policy lynch LS? and What content of cakes was decent?
Cake is just inactive but here were some posts I had liked from him:
On April 20 2015 14:56 cakepie wrote:Before anything else, what the heck, I'm not allowed to refresh the thread on the side while filter diving and working on my reads? Feels like my play style doesn’t fit the meta these days or something. ----- Since I got a late start to the game, I’ll start by bringing a new, different observation of my own, and try to avoid rehashing things that people have already brought up. Scott asked me about LightningStrike -- who turns out to be squarely null+ -- engaged and forthcoming, a bit better than most, and not particularly controversial or swingy. What’s interesting, though, is that looking over LS and his interactions, a lot of it is with Damdred, who on closer inspection feels like he may be trying to get chummy with LS. And why so eager to know how LS reads him so early on? Not blatant red flag -- might just be a product of who’s around and active to talk to early game, or just a meta thing between people who’ve played together -- I don’t know most of the newer players. Also certainly not to trying to draw associations. Just a thing I noticed, smells a bit fishy, not concrete, but may be worth keeping an eye on. ----- Now for something else that feel I must address and make my opinion known, even at the risk of rebleating someone else: Trfel’s huegpost: some people have pointed to it as not alignment indicative, BM flagged it as scumandeering. I feel it is somewhere between the two, south of null. Certainly, the hypothetical scum motivation is there: gaining cred for little substance, and swaying the favor of newbie players. Town motivation, much harder to justify -- sure, it’s a newbie game, but we are in-game and this is not the venue for dumping guides and glossaries -- there are resources out there for that. Feels almost pretentious, trying to tell people how to play. Of course, clearly the post was premeditated before the game even started, and he has some history of making similar posts, though not quite as big, so that’s what nudges it away from being an outright red flag for me. Make attention grabbing huegpost? Okay, you have my attention, but now what are you going to do with it? If you want to try to take the reins and lead town -- fine by me, I don’t judge that in itself either way. But if you put yourself in the spotlight, expect scrutiny, that’s only fair.
On April 20 2015 17:06 cakepie wrote:OWS, If there’s one thing that really seems out of place to me, it would be BM’s mass claim proposal / “blue hunt” -- quite simply, it doesn’t add up. I’m well aware that he has a bit of a reputation, but the situation still reeks of exceedingly weird. Hypothesize he is scum motivated? I don’t think noob game means people are dumb enough to fall for the straight up blue hunt. Town motivated? I’m pretty sure he doesn’t get any passes for not knowing the setup, or trying for “60% if no counterclaim”. Some kind of test to gauge reactions? Not apparent that is the case either. Occam’s razor would prefer obvious scum here. Onegu mentioned “ too scummy to be scum, doesnt work” [as a defense] and my NMM33 experience would tend to agree that usually too obvious scum = scum. As things stand now, if deadline was in a couple of hours and we had to consolidate already, I’d probably vote BM. It’s not a new case by any means, but that’s the strongest read I have. ----- Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 15:36 The Shining wrote:
you brought up something that hasn't really been addressed in the thread(LS-Damdred read interaction) which is an original thought. So, did you see anything in any of this other posts? Didn’t see much of the “too friendly” type interaction elsewhere, but one other thing that stood out for me is when Trfel seemed really hung up about Damdred’s opinion/thoughts process re: himself here and then again at the end here despite Damdred already addressing it here, I think. Caring too hard about what people think about yourself is a bit of a scumtell. Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 15:36 The Shining wrote:
I'm not trying to overwhelm you but I have HORRIBLE luck with pylnches as town, whether I vote them or not. They like, always flip town. Let's not let this be you if you are town, pls. I prefer to take my time to read, deliberate, and draft. I tend to have a relatively shorter filter. That’s just how I am. But if you can see past the superficiality of post count and such and find something of value in my play, perhaps we can avoid this potential mislynch. Lynch all lurkers (sometimes, liars) ----- Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 16:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
He needs reads instead of just calling people null or null+. Well, I’m not going to post a huge ordered list or give townreads and help scum prioritize out who to kill off. And it should not be surprising at this stage of D1 to be looking at a lot of null± among moderately active players. I’ve given my strongest read and voiced a couple of my suspicions, and though the latter are a bit more swingy and hard to place for now, with their activity, we’ll have more to work with as we go. Unfortunately, with my fairly limited experience, D1 still feels like a crapshoot, barring some really obvious slip or discrepancy from someone. I think BM fits the bill best here. (see what I did there?) ----- Re: Shining’s point on Trfel->Bourneq, I think it’s quite plausible for Trfel to be more of “happy to leave Bourneq alone for now” until a second look when the apparent opinion shift happened, which really got his attention / aroused his suspicion. ----- ... and too slow again apparently. =(
He put a lot thoughs into these two posts I doubt a new scum player would make these rather large posts.
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On April 21 2015 06:13 Damdred wrote:
Hes not really new though LS...
Anyway I got raid to do,
He only had 3 games under his belt and he was only town in those games.
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So who we actually lynching today?
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Ya I not liking a Bourneq lynch now the martyrdom making me not want him lynched but there isn't really any good wagon for me to go on :|
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Well I not liking a scott or a cake pie lynch myself so I going to vote who I think can be scum. Tfrel's stuff been weird :|
##Vote:Tfrel
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On April 21 2015 09:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 09:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I not liking a scott or a cake pie lynch myself so I going to vote who I think can be scum. Tfrel's stuff been weird :|
##Vote:Tfrel Way to waste your vote with tied wagons?
Because I don't like either of these lynches.
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scott is getting lynched ows if he flips town you just hammered him indirectly.
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I figured he was town from meta but didn't like the scott wagon either he posted more than he did in Newbie LX which is a more active game than this one.
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On April 21 2015 10:06 Holyflare wrote:
ls plz don't be mafia
I not Mafia I truly didn't like either wagon honestly. I don't vote for people I don't are scum.
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On April 21 2015 10:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 10:10 Damdred wrote:
No we aren't lynching ls. He's way to honest. I don't see how this matters. He let both wagons build up, analyzed them, did absolutely nothing with the reads he came up with and voted on some alternative wagon that was never going to get lynched for incredibly flimsy reasons. Still megascummy.
Like I said I don't vote for people I don't think are scum and the fact that Tfrel hammered the guy he hard defended early is terrible. If Tfrel flips Mafia Scott is Mafia based on the way Tfrel hammered a townie he hard defended earlier. Plus I was getting vides of him being Mafia due to the fact that he posted similar educational stuff in his last student game that I had played with him when he was scum (Student V).
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On April 21 2015 11:44 Holyflare wrote:
Ls where did you go? I don't even know who you scum read properly. Just lots of town reads on main wagons into afk.
Tfrel he not he only looking a little bit like his Student V meta when he was scum but also the way he hammer Cake when he was hard defending Cake earlier is extremely scummy for him to do that. So by association based on the votes Scott got to be Mafia with Tfrel if Scott is Mafia. The 3rd one is a mystery still. Who you think is the 3rd Mafia if Tfrel and Scott are Mafia?
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Also I was playing a LoL game that where I had disappeared to :O
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On April 21 2015 12:00 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 12:00 LightningStrike wrote:On April 21 2015 11:44 Holyflare wrote:
Ls where did you go? I don't even know who you scum read properly. Just lots of town reads on main wagons into afk. Tfrel he not he only looking a little bit like his Student V meta when he was scum but also the way he hammer Cake when he was hard defending Cake earlier is extremely scummy for him to do that. So by association based on the votes Scott got to be Mafia with Tfrel if Scott is Mafia. The 3rd one is a mystery still. Who you think is the 3rd Mafia if Tfrel and Scott are Mafia? Holyflare.
Why Holyflare? I don't see much of UnHolyflare here O_o
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On April 21 2015 13:47 LeiNadk wrote:Few more comments:Long time ago, early in the game, LS posted this read: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw TheBloodyDwarf complaining on the lack of Europeans in this thread. Also Shining had a question which will now be answered: Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 14:57 The Shining wrote:
LightningStrike When you get back I want to see you actually do something. All I could gather from your posts is you're worried about getting scumread and you'll answer questions tomorrow. Can I get some preliminary reads from you when you do come back? I'm sure you'll have some thoughts on the posts you read when you wake up. Okay let's be honest here I usually get scumread for my early reads list by most people but here some thoughts on people: OWS: Null he haven't done much yet but I know when he post more I can give more of a accurate meta read because he haven't posted much. Shinging: Maybe Town you seem to be trying actually but I haven't forgiven you on being scum in our last game together LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL. Tfrel: Null he can do most of his stuff as both alignments (Hinted at pregame he would do a really large post) Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null. Bourneq: Null he haven't really done much. Also Bourneq I'm here what's your thoughts so far? To which I responded with: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 22:46 LeiNadk wrote:Show nested quote +LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL. I'm not confused just trying to figure out some of the terminologies. Show nested quote +Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null.
Why does he look town to you? Because that wasn't my read on him so far. LS, you said this: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 22:46 LeiNadk wrote:LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL. I'm not confused just trying to figure out some of the terminologies. Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null.
Why does he look town to you? Because that wasn't my read on him so far. I didn't say he was town...... I'm confused with that because you said, "he looks townie here to(o) so null." Why did he look townie? And I'm sorry to Damdred for taking so long. I am surprised you didn't push for my answer though. + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 22:47 Damdred wrote:
Explain your read on Scott lei
I just woke up to find this post that I going to answer now: I think for some people it's alignment indicative if they post more as town compared to their scum game but the only way I can scott being scum is if he's scum with Tfrel due to what happened at EoD.
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On April 22 2015 04:34 Bill Murray wrote:I'm completely fine voting LS he seems to not really like me and I don't find him to be a valuable asset to the town. I have also noticed some weird wording and it seems like if we had a cop claim as town he would be the scum to counterclaim. Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:On April 19 2015 10:42 Damdred wrote:
I don't have to bleed green ls because I am the town no proof needed. Now ls your plan was missing the second and third scum lynches which shows you want to bus your mates I thought it obvious we repeat it multiple times lol. Also what you mean no proof needed for you to be town? this interaction is weird between damdred and LS. Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:On April 19 2015 10:46 Damdred wrote:
You are the meta king ls I need no proof here, as I will lynch all scum.
Though your response is interesting as you didn't even comment on the bussing joke...maybe a bit to close to the truth I figured it was a joke since I talked to Tfrel on Skype(For us to play LoL and SC2 HOTS) last night about how I go full Romanian sometimes on jokes here on TL so ofc I would expect him to be cheeky with that. ahahaha dont ever go full romanian you won't ever come back Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 12:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Alright so I going to bed and when I wake up I will answer every thing that is asked towards me and check everything out! "check everything out" softclaim? Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:On April 20 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
What do you think of truffle ignoring me ls Odd but that alone wouldn't make him scum if he's scum. yet more weird wording from LS and Damdred Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and Bill Murray wants to blue hunt which is terrible to do as town esp because scum can counterclaim easly. another softclaim from LS i have suspicions he's cop so if we have a medic they need to be on LS
I'm not blue I just a VT and hating the blue hunting you did earlier in Day 1. Also idk why you thought I softed blue because I almost always say I will check everything out regardless of my alignment. Check all the games in my database plus JOAT,XXX and Guardians for you sample my play as both alignments 
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On April 22 2015 05:02 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 04:49 LightningStrike wrote:On April 22 2015 04:34 Bill Murray wrote:I'm completely fine voting LS he seems to not really like me and I don't find him to be a valuable asset to the town. I have also noticed some weird wording and it seems like if we had a cop claim as town he would be the scum to counterclaim. On April 19 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:On April 19 2015 10:42 Damdred wrote:
I don't have to bleed green ls because I am the town no proof needed. Now ls your plan was missing the second and third scum lynches which shows you want to bus your mates I thought it obvious we repeat it multiple times lol. Also what you mean no proof needed for you to be town? this interaction is weird between damdred and LS. On April 19 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:On April 19 2015 10:46 Damdred wrote:
You are the meta king ls I need no proof here, as I will lynch all scum.
Though your response is interesting as you didn't even comment on the bussing joke...maybe a bit to close to the truth I figured it was a joke since I talked to Tfrel on Skype(For us to play LoL and SC2 HOTS) last night about how I go full Romanian sometimes on jokes here on TL so ofc I would expect him to be cheeky with that. ahahaha dont ever go full romanian you won't ever come back On April 19 2015 12:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Alright so I going to bed and when I wake up I will answer every thing that is asked towards me and check everything out! "check everything out" softclaim? On April 20 2015 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:On April 20 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
What do you think of truffle ignoring me ls Odd but that alone wouldn't make him scum if he's scum. yet more weird wording from LS and Damdred On April 20 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and Bill Murray wants to blue hunt which is terrible to do as town esp because scum can counterclaim easly. another softclaim from LS i have suspicions he's cop so if we have a medic they need to be on LS I'm not blue I just a VT and hating the blue hunting you did earlier in Day 1. Also idk why you thought I softed blue because I almost always say I will check everything out regardless of my alignment. Check all the games in my database plus JOAT,XXX and Guardians for you sample my play as both alignments you must remember me from XXX
Were you that smurf in XXX?
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