Newbie Student Mafia VIII - Page 2

On April 20 2015 05:51 Trfel wrote:
I'm almost thinking that posting an instant town read (one minute after my post) on the most suspected player in the thread with no other reasons provided is so unexpected that scum wouldn't do it.

But then again, I might be getting pocketed. I'm leaning towards the former, but any thoughts?

On April 20 2015 06:43 Trfel wrote:
It's not really that. It's more of that the potential benefit (getting a blue kill) is outweighed by how bad it makes you look. Of course if it works, it's a good play (suspicion on you, but one dead blue), but if it doesn't work (which is more likely), you look bad with no reward.

On April 20 2015 12:28 cakepie wrote:
I'm slow okay? Sheesh!
(Also I will admit to getting distracted by shoutcraft, and then dinner.)

On April 19 2015 11:49 Trfel wrote:
Hm, this game feels slow already. I thought my post would get things started, but I guess that wasn't good enough.

I find Bourneq to be the most suspicious so far.Bourneq asks if anyone wants to ask him for a tone read, because this is something that people asked him to do last game. And he knows that it's a townie thing to do. However, the interesting thing is that he asks if people want him to tone read someone or something. He doesn't seem inclined to do it himself. This suggests that he is more interested in appeasing others and not getting lynched than actually finding scum.

Furthermore, he says that he will sleep instead of scumhunting. But why would he leave the first sentence in if he is going to sleep after all? He left it in to gain town credit for being open to doing something towny (making a read).
Then, someone in his previous game made a post. And Bourneq acknowledges it and says that he wasn't going to read it. Why does Bourneq feel a need to acknowledge my post? He already said that he's tired and he will be going to bed. His post doesn't help town in any way, but it makes him seem more involved in the game (which is false, since he didn't bother to toneread anyone at all).

I'll be heading out again for a while. Any thoughts?

On April 20 2015 13:00 Trfel wrote:
Bourneq - So, initially I was happy with Bourneq this game.This post seems very honest and open, in addition to making me laugh. Bourneq seems to be acknowledging his errors last game and adjusting. However, I noticed several suspicious things in his folder that make me hesitant to town read him.

What a strange progression in these four posts. Once Bill Murray scumreads me, Bourneq says that he would love to vote for me. He says that my big post is long and trying to make me look good, and that he thinks it is forced. This is interesting, since he already said that this post was mostly written before the game began, and is thus says nothing about my alignment. Furthermore, he played with me last game, when I was town, and I posted four extremely long analysis posts on the earlier portions of the game (I replaced in). How is me making a long post any different than it was last game?

It's also strange how he suddenly jumped on me when he said that he liked me for scumreading him. It feels that Bourneq is trying to set himself up to vote for me, but then Bill Murray suggests mass claiming, and this starts to draw attention. Bourneq never mentions me again. This progression seems extremely suspicious to me.

Besides this, Bourneq hasn't done very much. He's sheeped the thread sentiment several times (agreeing entirely with LightningStrike's list post, but mentioning the three inactive players, note that he didn't mention inactive players last game as town), and a weak read on LightningStrike ("[LightningStrike seems] just as town as anybody else to me so far"). I could definitely lynch Bourneq.

On April 20 2015 00:07 Trfel wrote:
I think that this actually makes Bourneq slightly more likely to be town. Town is interested in the thread enough to reload a few more times after they say they will go to sleep. Mafia will more likely not make a post when they don't have to. But it isn't very significant.

I do like LeiNadk's posting so far.
I'm sorry, I misinterpreted your first post slightly. Your reads on scott31337 and ObiWanShinobi were clearly jokes, however you bothered to change your read on me to possible scum instead of sure scum like the other two. I felt that this meant that you were actually serious about this read. My fault. I'm really not good at reading for tone and I miss jokes frequently (there's a reason I almost never give tonereads), so I don't know where you would get the contrary opinion.

And yes, thank you for your statements on Bourneq. That is the flaw in my argument. I'm surprised that Damdred disagreed with my argument but for different reasons. Bourneq also explained this quite nicely. The Shining gets a slight townread for his explanation of this.

However, I'm somewhat surprised that Bourneq jumped on the inactive players like that. I don't think it is important at this time, but I would hope to see him keep his discussion on players in the thread from here on out.
For reference, I've heard that some people advise not to ask questions like this. Obviously, this is different when dealing with newer players, but LightningStrike is experienced, and he knows to provide reads. If you ask him, of course he'll provide reads. If you don't ask him, maybe he will on his own accord, which would be more interesting.

On April 20 2015 12:27 Trfel wrote:
Thoughts on Bourneq?

(specifically to Damdred and ObiWanShinobi, but also to anyone who is here)

On April 20 2015 11:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


No, I'm not done with this yet.