Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal

On March 24 2015 05:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

Me too
Whatever people can lynch me for being afk again

On March 28 2015 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Dammit. I wanted to play a wizard.

w/e game sux

On March 28 2015 08:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw I'm pretty much voting for anyone who isn't kita if I don't get elected, so.

On March 28 2015 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:


Your mom pleased me last night.

On March 28 2015 11:12 LightningStrike wrote:

She just not being herself on her entrance and it seems kinda forced.

On March 28 2015 11:16 LightningStrike wrote:

She more happy normally on her entrance on past games as Town and her entrance kinda reminds me of a scum on scum type of play by superbia and [UoN]sentential in Campus. So maybe both her and ExO could be Mafia together.

On March 28 2015 11:39 LightningStrike wrote:

She was so late on her opening when we were playing Voice Mafia together so I knew she was around and found it scummy she wasn't posting in the thread at the time.

On March 28 2015 13:05 justanothertownie wrote:

I didn't jump on the reasoning - I liked the read itself. Rsoultins first posts about the plan just seem like very obvious things to say.

On March 28 2015 13:07 sicklucker wrote:


Acualy I have yet to make any serious fake claims as mafia.

On March 29 2015 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:


He is still alive :/

On March 29 2015 05:26 Half the Sky wrote:
ObiWanShinobi said that he'd vote for anyone that wasn't Kita early on. I realise that was early on though.
Was that a joke, has that since changed if it wasn't?

And if you still don't like Kita, why? I was pretty content with him.

On March 29 2015 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:

I mean at the very least it's a fair bit of effort to try and look like you're coming up with independent reads that are the same as all of those already posting in the thread.

On March 29 2015 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
I'm in bed :p

On March 29 2015 11:31 Holyflare wrote:


Plenty of room. Where did your ls point disappear to?

On March 29 2015 11:33 Holyflare wrote:


You had a point about ls not using a read like he did on rsoul before and then kinda meandered away.

On March 29 2015 11:35 Koshi wrote:
HF confirmed mafia.

On March 29 2015 11:38 Holyflare wrote:


Yeh it is your read?

On March 29 2015 11:46 Holyflare wrote:




What......?

On March 29 2015 11:50 justanothertownie wrote:

Poor thing...

On March 29 2015 11:53 Holyflare wrote:


You made a read on ls at the start of the game... I even quoted it for you. It was about how ls never made an associative read like he did this game. Then you left for ages and didn't really follow through with it. I'd like you to continue where you left off,especially as i dislike ls' latest post.

On March 29 2015 12:02 Holyflare wrote:
I am very very wary of Keirathi. He's pretty low down.

On March 29 2015 12:09 justanothertownie wrote:

An awe-inspiring read.

On March 29 2015 12:10 Holyflare wrote:


I know he likes meta but it's the too sure meta to be meta kinda vibe + his exo defending stuff? +pretty inactively active

On March 29 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote:


Dude i posted why like 3 times....?

Repeated rsoul read that he did not long ago again. Loads of reads that are basically null or give a reason to town and scum read ending in null and then no scum reads, culminating in questions to random people.

Felt very much like a recent post he did as mafia. +his reaction to me seems bit off

On March 29 2015 12:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
so who actually legitimately wants warrior and isn't a shit player? I already know holyflare said he didnt want it and I need to cast my vote before I go to bed since I wont be around tomorrow much.

On March 29 2015 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
If i say I'm going to lynch bh enough maybe he'll claim a role and we can ignore him.

On March 29 2015 12:58 kitaman27 wrote:


Admittedly fanfic was the only mafia game of his that I read, but that wasn't the impression that I got compared to joat.

On March 29 2015 13:34 LightningStrike wrote:

So you want me to be uselss because that's cool with me.

On March 29 2015 15:25 yamato77 wrote:

your town list is... unconventional

you're probably town.

On March 30 2015 00:14 Alakaslam wrote:

I don't really like this post

On March 30 2015 00:24 Alakaslam wrote:

HF agreed and stated the reason.

On March 30 2015 00:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I more incline to say HTS is town based the fact her play does seem very similar to her play from NYE Party more so than Void when she was Mafia.

On March 30 2015 00:57 batsnacks wrote:
btw I don't think HF is a good choice for mayor.

On March 30 2015 00:58 LightningStrike wrote:

Also HTS in Void gave very easy reads and was never really like being the spotlight. She did try to be in the spotlight for as long she could given she have stuff going on irl.

On March 30 2015 01:00 batsnacks wrote:


Can't trust him and he already has enough power in this game what with 3 votes already. This is an easy game for HF as either alignment right now.

On March 30 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote:


what..............?

if you think i'm mafia I shouldn't have any powers, it should be pretty easy to tell if i'm mafia based on my reads, don't post this cop out crap

On March 30 2015 01:16 Chezitwo wrote:

Would you rather I fabricated certainty? Do you think any of those players have done anything one way or another to deserve a firmer read?

On March 30 2015 01:32 Chezitwo wrote:

Is this a townie thing to say?

On March 30 2015 03:06 kitaman27 wrote:




I'm not sure that this means a ton since a bad guy role doesn't necessarily point to being mafia, but maybe it means more to someone else. I came across this.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Giggles_(New_Adventures_of_Batman)

On March 30 2015 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea why after his play so far people think they can read HF well enough to make him the warrior. Absolutely no idea. IF we elect him we need to make absolutely sure who he has to lynch. There must not be a range of 2-3 people like he is giving currently because if people are idiots and he is scum he will just lynch whoever is not scum and get away with it.

On March 30 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:


because mafia loves to call me town so you can pretty much just assume i'm town now

On March 30 2015 03:11 VisceraEyes wrote:

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

On March 30 2015 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:

nah, back to topic: There doesn't seem to be any perfect candidate. Maybe Koshi but this has obvious downsides,

On March 30 2015 03:17 Holyflare wrote:


uhhh? why are you only saying this now when you've been saying i'm towny and when I questioned batsnacks about it you were kinda semi-defending me and only now you're just saying we're in a bad spot?????????

On March 30 2015 03:19 justanothertownie wrote:

Dude didn't get the joke. Mafia.

On March 30 2015 03:20 Holyflare wrote:


only one of you is

On March 30 2015 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
ok i'm confused

On March 30 2015 03:26 Holyflare wrote:


and you also didn't do any of the things i mentioned that obi did

On March 30 2015 03:31 Holyflare wrote:


you said that the thread is bad because you don't know who to vote for after jat was saying i'm not a good candidate

i question why the hell you say this after doing all those things in regards to me

you say you are joking

i dont think jat is joking so say only one of you is joking

jat continues to say im not a good candidate

??????????????????

On March 30 2015 03:34 ritoky wrote:
alright boys, I see bats voted for me, that's enough to land him on my town list.

town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
hapa
yamato
batsnacks

3/10 slots left, I need people to convince me of town reads.

also vote me and I will lynch HtS, cleric seems okay too though.

On March 30 2015 03:39 ritoky wrote:


ls is an uncc'd cop, plus he said shit that was so utterly dumb that it reminded me of the time I made the "comma read" on him and he was town.

hapa did some shit where people asked him questions and he quoted good posts and only that, was town as fuk.

On March 30 2015 03:39 Holyflare wrote:


you had ls on your town list before he was an uncc'd cop... what was your reason before

On March 30 2015 03:43 Holyflare wrote:
i think we should put rsoul as warrior btw

On March 30 2015 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:

Why on earth are slam and onegu in your circle?

On March 30 2015 04:00 rsoultin wrote:


the level of playfulness accompanied by participation and unique perspectives reads town slam to me

he didn't just do one thing and ride on it like he did in joat

i'm comfortable reading him town here

On March 30 2015 04:09 ritoky wrote:


I think I have played 1 greymist game ever. Would greymist make Jim Gordon (a paragon of good) into an evil cop?

On March 30 2015 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
let's comment on that guy we want to lynch post instead of that guy we don't want to lynch shoddy reasoning for town reading ls

On March 30 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:


no hapa still, that post was awful, his reads aren't "non committal" like hapa is stating, he town reads ls quite hard and has the same read on hapa as everyone else in the game and same with hts (before someone found out her pre-game excuse or w/e)

he also says that town generally like to find mafia first and his first post was that trfel called sicklucker mafia......?

i don't get it at all

On March 30 2015 04:19 Keirathi wrote:

Wait what? Since when am I your scum read, and why?

Last thing you said about me was "I'm probably going to vote keir for warrior".

On March 30 2015 04:24 ritoky wrote:
OWS, if I was gonna give you free stuff, who should I take off my list in your place?

On March 30 2015 04:31 Keirathi wrote:

There's a huge difference. I've already put in way more effort here than I did in the entirety of JOAT. And besides that, the "strong start" from JoaT was all during night 1. I basically had like 10 posts in all of day 1.

The drop off in activity can simply be explained by the fact that I didn't have to work Friday night, and I did last night.

On March 30 2015 04:37 ritoky wrote:


so you'd leave hapa on the list?

On March 30 2015 04:48 Onegu wrote:



So you town read me but don't want me to get stuff?

On March 30 2015 04:52 Chezitwo wrote:

why not?

On March 30 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:

Are you of the impression that scum Hapa would think his push is gonna be very successful given his current towncred? Also I don't make associative reads. I could be wrong about one of them but they are both scummy individually.

On March 30 2015 05:14 ritoky wrote:
VE called me a bitch, when I offered him free stuff, he is town

who on this list should I remove to put VE on?

town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
yamato
hapa
batsnacks
onegu
kita
koshi

On March 30 2015 05:15 Hapahauli wrote:


I will bus...

ALL MY TEAMMATES

On March 30 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote:

Explain.

You will have to do more than that if you want to survive until tomorrow. I find your cases rather shallow.

On March 30 2015 05:23 justanothertownie wrote:

Your point? This happens all the time. And I am not even saying this is definitely the case.

On March 30 2015 05:46 Chezitwo wrote:
The irony is palpable

On March 30 2015 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:

ok fine let's kill snarfs then

as long as we're not killing me I'm good honestly. I don't really have reads since this thread is a monstrosity and every time I leave for a half day I come back and there's 50 pages of "wat"

On March 30 2015 05:56 ritoky wrote:
because I am a claimed blue role who is distributing goods to the town, the better question is why don't I have even more votes?

On March 30 2015 05:58 justanothertownie wrote:

That's basically the same. If whoever gets warrior does not kill you today and you don't start playing for real tomorrow I will lynch you next. I don't want to see a single post about Koshi anymore.

On March 30 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:


who should be removed for you and why?

On March 30 2015 06:05 Onegu wrote:



Your reason for removing me is stupid btw...

On March 30 2015 06:05 Blazinghand wrote:


As I have explicitly stated a couple times now, I have no read on snarfs but snarfs possesses an important quality of "not being me" so let's lynch him instead.

On March 30 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote:


>< lol...can you say why you have an issue with any of ritoky, koshi or holyflare first?

better yet, give me three names of people you want ^^

On March 30 2015 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:


I've tried stuff like that before. In many games, I post pre-game that "oh, I won't be as active because I'm busy etc etc", and then I end up try-harding anyway because I can't get the game off my mind.

So I tried something different. Woop.

But the main reason that people are moving away from my lynch is that it's generally really fucking obvious to tell if I'm mafia when I'm posting for an extended amount of time. In 48 hours, it should be pretty easy to tell my alignment. And if for whatever reason it isn't, my role allows me to kill myself on Day 3, so I'll save you from lynching me if I don't do my job.

On March 30 2015 06:21 Hapahauli wrote:


The Day 3 thing is the most irrelevant thing in my post.

On March 30 2015 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm, I'm still not feeling too secure here, I guess I should claim?

On March 30 2015 06:28 Blazinghand wrote:


You're not the boss of me

also, I'm afraid to read snarf's filter, cause what if i read his filter and be like "hey this dude is town" then people are gonna lynch me instead right

On March 30 2015 06:39 Alakaslam wrote:

THIS IS AN IDLE THREAT YOU FOOL; BH DIES: I DIE

SO LOL YOU FANGLESS THUU

On March 30 2015 06:45 justanothertownie wrote:

Thought so too. The timer said so.

On March 30 2015 06:50 Alakaslam wrote:

I am saying BH cannot die this cycle or the implications for me, the lyncher, and ofc BH (and others but if I drop names is too risky, too risky!) is dead

On March 30 2015 06:51 Onegu wrote:



Isn't geript banned?

On March 30 2015 06:54 justanothertownie wrote:

If you have a good reason for that besides your idiotic adoration for the guy we should probably just lynch Trfel.

On March 30 2015 06:56 justanothertownie wrote:

Fine, lynch Trfel then.

On March 30 2015 07:03 Koshi wrote:

THIS GUY RIGHT HERE

On March 30 2015 07:04 Koshi wrote:
wait rsoultin is still here? what was the hurry with snarfs then?

On March 30 2015 07:11 Onegu wrote:
I need votes get on it people. Promise to confirm myself town by D2, with cleric powers combined with my role

On March 30 2015 07:14 Onegu wrote:



Why not?

On March 30 2015 07:22 Alakaslam wrote:

Heck if you could beat Rsoul I'm down for this, but

you would have already beaten rsoul, so...

On March 30 2015 07:25 Alakaslam wrote:

this should be scary

On March 30 2015 07:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Kitapost goodpost

On March 30 2015 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
I REALLY DONT WANT TO LOSE OUR WARRIOR IMMEDIATELY AND REQUIRE A BUNCH OF MEDIC PROTECTS TO SURVIVE!!

On March 30 2015 07:32 Alakaslam wrote:

FUck you scum

It's not like THE GREATEST ROLE but I'd rather not needlessly die along with OUR WARRIOR YOU DOLT

On March 30 2015 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:

JUST CLAIM! GOD!

I'm not trying to be difficult, but you do this to yourself! LMAO

On March 30 2015 07:35 Trfel wrote:
I was out for all of today. I'm 36 pages behind.

Is there anything I need to know/do before End of Day?

On March 30 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote:
Uh, why do people want to lynch me?

On March 30 2015 07:44 Alakaslam wrote:

Nope, I'm not. I think there is a scum or 3P action on us BH.

On March 30 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:


please prove to me how my post is wrong and how it is a cop out, he'd love to afk as mafia under a claim, he's done it before

On March 30 2015 08:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well that could have been a lot worse. Removing a question mark AND a role obfuscation role.

On March 30 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Pm me I suppose if you want sexy private time while I get home in a few hours

On March 30 2015 09:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ugh I'm annoyed you can't use Skype for this.

On March 30 2015 09:17 Holyflare wrote:
I was

On March 30 2015 09:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oops I forgot to pay

On March 30 2015 23:49 kitaman27 wrote:


Are you not concerned in the slightest that one of these players is mafia, especially in a PM game?

One option is that we have is that Sherlock, moriorarirty, and lestrad all role claim to whoever they have as their strongest town read at the final seconds of the night cycle where mafia is unable to react to the PM if they choose wrong. The recipients then posts the targets of the check in the thread, revealing the information to the three roles without identifying the players themselves. Some players may die due to night hits here, but it's less likely all three are hit. Obviously BH and slam can simply claim in the thread if they live. When selecting the targets, keep in mind that a mafia player may be receiving results for a role cop etc.

Furthermore, if there is a a player that will receive an investigative night action tonight and does not want to reveal their identity you can PM me tonight with your target and a code trigger word. The following day if you want me to day mason you to reveal your check, post your trigger word and I'll set up the mason link. Obviously this relies on me living the night and you trusting me with your role.

On March 31 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
VA shoot BH if he flips a town investigative role we lynch Slam.

On March 31 2015 01:13 Chezitwo wrote:
Could Moriarty please claim to me in PMs? Or if you do not think I am town, claim to jat.

And if you think neither of us are town, then I can't help you.

And if you're mafia you're probably not going to claim but that will make BH look better by extension.

The reason I choose Moriarty is because *usually* baddies are baddies in Greymist games, even though mafia will be given fakeclaims.

On March 31 2015 01:32 Chezitwo wrote:

A kind soul pointed out to me that, by and large, in Greymist games baddies are usually baddies.

So (and I am happy for someone to prove me wrong with some examples) it would indeed be at least somewhat indicative.

On March 31 2015 02:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

And I never got that claim! FANCY THAT!!!

On March 31 2015 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:



I don't come and laugh at your misfortunes.

On March 31 2015 02:41 justanothertownie wrote:

Don't lie to him you cruel bastard. This isn't the first time in this game you laugher about him.

On March 31 2015 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sad anymore I'm salty. And the only thing that cures salt is time.

On March 31 2015 04:22 VisceraEyes wrote:

Yes Keirathi isn't being talked about at all.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I'm done with this game.

On March 31 2015 04:05 yamato77 wrote:

Koshibot has reached maximum sensory overload. Koshibot needs immediate maintenance.

On March 31 2015 04:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Snarfs may not be scum either. He has a very self centric view of his reads and how they interact with him specifically which reads towny to me.

On March 31 2015 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
+ we were busy cybering

On March 31 2015 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

Discuss. Language like "Shout if I'm wrong" and "I could be off" etc etc

On March 31 2015 06:07 Koshi wrote:
There really is no reason to look further than WoS, BH, kita, hapa and yamato. All cases on other people that aren't genius on first look should be instantly forgotten.

On March 31 2015 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
So who wants to be my day mason today? -_-

On March 31 2015 19:22 Koshi wrote:

sup cav.

On April 01 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:
The black reaper. Very towny sounding name.

On April 01 2015 03:35 rsoultin wrote:
LISTEN TO SLAM

WE NEED TO VOTE GLADOS

IF WE CAN'T AGREE TO VOTE VA THEN THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO VOTE GLADOS

jat will you help me on this -_-

i have every reason to trust slam. if you trust me, help me

On April 01 2015 04:00 Koshi wrote:
BH is Moriarty

There is 0 resistance VA is mafia.

On April 01 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
by the way i seem to remember a lot of people saying hapa was town despite there being overwhelming evidence that he wasn't playing like normal, someone look into that because I can't remember who was doing it

On April 01 2015 06:51 Holyflare wrote:


nahhh day 1 before he even posted anything

On April 01 2015 14:16 yamato77 wrote:
This whole crossfire thing stinks.

On April 02 2015 03:03 justanothertownie wrote:

What's not to understand about it?

On April 02 2015 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
so...

where did the vayneauthority lynch go?

On April 02 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote:
Trfel is probably working with mafia right now. Damdred is lying about items and not playing. Wave shot hapa who is confirmed to give us a double lynch and he didn't discuss it in thread at all and this was at the point where we only just started really getting to the bottom of it and complains about pm's but only kept his talk to pm's. I have absolutely no reason to trust kita who is just trying to learn everyone's roles and not finding mafia and kept trying to discredit me the entire game for no reason. He also didn't like a sicklucker lynch even though the towny players saw the meta and it was pretty convincing and that dude flipped town.


Probably at least mafia in the above. Exo/rsoul is a bit dodgy tbh but I'm not sure if it's dodgy enough to not be a silly mistake (+rsoul town read slam so no reason to out he had power). Slam probably just 3p and va seems cool but I'm not sure about him.

On April 02 2015 08:04 justanothertownie wrote:
It displeases me greatly that you are still here slam.

On April 02 2015 08:14 justanothertownie wrote:

Can confirm. Onegu most likely town.

On April 02 2015 08:16 justanothertownie wrote:

He gave me mask.

On April 03 2015 14:39 VisceraEyes wrote:

I kinda just want to kill BH and VA all together. Like, if we presume the Sherlock 3 are 1/1/1 then all that are left are the third and mafia, and neither one is going to actually HELP us find the other. There's the off chance that if BH is 3rd party that he'll help us find mafia, but he's not done anything like that this game outside of outting his "check" on VA which we haven't done anything with.

Can we just kill VA and then BH and be done with the matter?

On April 03 2015 15:33 VisceraEyes wrote:

Mostly because BH claimed to get out of a lynch (nullish leaning anti-town), we flipped Chez who flipped town and the third of them hasn't claimed at all (to my knowledge) which at this point SCREAMS mafia. So I'm personally presuming 1/1/1.

On April 04 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Nvm this game is null and void jat and xfire are not mafia anymore

On April 04 2015 02:13 Crossfire99 wrote:

Straight up claiming jester is just dumb if he is jester. Instead he could have done what he tried to do which is just make up completely wrong allegations about people visiting slam or whoever. When that would be proven wrong, we would lynch him or seriously consider it. He would then win. I don't think he is actually a jester. If I really had to guess what is going on, it is that he is sacrificing himself to protect other scum with better abilities, or the ones who still have yet to use them, or whatever. I also agree that jesters are not the best roles outside of certain special games and really shouldn't be in games. I'd lynch him and if we're screwed over by a jester then...idk...