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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 07:16 GMT
#3329
On March 31 2015 16:15 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes at keir- i am being insomniac ^^

Hi.

I should be asleep too but I got caught up looking through logs/etc.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 07:27 GMT
#3332
On March 31 2015 16:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 16:22 rsoultin wrote:
On March 31 2015 16:16 Keirathi wrote:
On March 31 2015 16:15 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes at keir- i am being insomniac ^^

Hi.

I should be asleep too but I got caught up looking through logs/etc.


is keir scared of me too i promise i don't bite...much lololol

She bites and it hurts. Bad.

Sign me up. It ain't fun unless you bleed.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 07:38 GMT
#3337
On March 31 2015 16:34 Koshi wrote:
VA might be mafia. But seriously.
We should really focus on who out of BH and Alakaslam is mafia. 1 for sure is. It might be slam. Probably is BH. Maybe both?

I would be surprised if marv got killed for his VA read. And thinking marv checked VA is just so fucking boring. Why would he check his scumread? He probably checked something else. Probably another investigation role. aka LS or BH.

Mafia:
VA/BH/Hapa/Alakaslam/LS/trfel

I literally just said that like 3 posts ago :o
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 08:28 GMT
#3342
Man Koshi, you're all over the fucking place lol.

Every single one of your lists is so radically different.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 08:52 GMT
#3345
On March 31 2015 17:32 Koshi wrote:
Mafia needs busdrivers.
]

That's kind of a cop-out.

AFAIK, there's never been a scum busdriver in a GreYMisT game. And I know for a fact there has been at least one town one.

If Hapa is scum, it has absolutely nothing to do with him claiming busdriver.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 08:55 GMT
#3348
On March 31 2015 17:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 17:52 Keirathi wrote:
On March 31 2015 17:32 Koshi wrote:
Mafia needs busdrivers.
]

That's kind of a cop-out.

AFAIK, there's never been a scum busdriver in a GreYMisT game. And I know for a fact there has been at least one town one.

If Hapa is scum, it has absolutely nothing to do with him claiming busdriver.

Yes. There are also another 500 reasons why Hapa is scum.

This is my last post of the night, but why do you disagree with the post I made about finding it unlikely that Crossfire was bussing Hapa?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 21:28 GMT
#3710
Oh hey look I was right. Hapa wasn't mafia after all.

Yay for people ignoring me!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 21:38 GMT
#3712
On April 01 2015 06:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:28 Keirathi wrote:
Oh hey look I was right. Hapa wasn't mafia after all.

Yay for people ignoring me!

You are a hero. Who should have died in his place?

I think there's a reasonably good chance Snarfs is mafia. I was talking about this with rsoultin last night.

Look back at the end of day 1 stuff with Crossfire. He was saying that rsoultin and HF were both town reads for the entirety of the day, and once Hapa wasn't a lynch option anymore, he had to choose between rsoultin and HF as his candidate to vote for. HF was pushing for a SL lynch, rsoultin was pushing for Snarfs (with a maybe Truffle). So he chose HF. But then he said this like 20 minutes later:

On March 30 2015 07:54 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
i am NOT voting bh, i am voting sicklucker for now until people tell me otherwise


this guy has 3 pages of filter

look at all the games he has played in how he references his scum meta:

On January 31 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Game's been going for longer than 10 minutes and SL has less than 1 page of filter

##vote sicklucker

A++


This is a absolutely terrible read. The only time ive rolled mafia mspaint. I froze up and had a 2-4 page filter day1. Dandred/chezina my mafia partners can verify this. I was super afraid to post early in that game.

I want to scum read ff for it since he was in that game. But he just puts scum on me everygame and im always town. The one time I was mafia he actually laid off me.


On March 19 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Probably has to do something with the range when mafia is more likely to put their vote on a certain wagon.

Holyflare the Toad - Palmar fest. Does it mean anything?


probably nothing at all, but it kind of reminds me of toad going ham on geript in that game i bussed everyone

yeah me too.
but let's not talk about more of it yet.

Talk to me about sicklucker. I don't understand why people are voting for him.


well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful

The logest games he has been alive in are:
TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Vanilla Survived Night 5 (28 pages of filter)
Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 (19 pages)
The Void Mafia Mafia Rolecop Survived Day 5 (52 pages)
Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 7 (35 pages)
VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 5 (14 pages)

I think by simple post/phase comparison he is not lying. Like i don't care what he said as scum in Void, but i don't think him saying that here makes him mafia.

i agree he should start being useful.


each time as mafia he has lower page counts


I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length.


So he didn't think SL was mafia, but voted for HF without commenting on why Snarfs shouldn't be lynched.

(Also, could just be that HF is mafia. I don't entirely trust him anymore. Yay paranoia!)
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 21:43 GMT
#3714
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 21:48 GMT
#3717
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

I'm not sure.

I just got home, give me a while to go through the thread and collect my thoughts again. I did a lot of ruling people out last night, but not a lot of actually narrowing down my suspects.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 21:55 GMT
#3724
On April 01 2015 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:48 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

I'm not sure.

I just got home, give me a while to go through the thread and collect my thoughts again. I did a lot of ruling people out last night, but not a lot of actually narrowing down my suspects.

Are you talking about the list you posted? Otherwise I also take your reasons to rule out people.

What I meant was I spent most of my 3-4 hours playing mafia last night looking into Crossfire/Hapa, the BH check and whether that made VA confirmed mafia, and thinking about if BH could be scum.

I didn't put much time into thinking about other people yet.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 22:11 GMT
#3727
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

Also, it comes to me that for someone who is being extremely town-circle'y and town-leader'y, I have absolutely no idea who YOU want to lynch.

That's kind of scary.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 22:17 GMT
#3730
On April 01 2015 07:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 07:11 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

Also, it comes to me that for someone who is being extremely town-circle'y and town-leader'y, I have absolutely no idea who YOU want to lynch.

That's kind of scary.

Yeah, there is a good reason for that trust me.

That's weak.

I mean, I get that I'm not being included in the town circle jerk for whatever reason. But this is still a game of mafia and we still have to lynch scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 23:05 GMT
#3741
On April 01 2015 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
I wouldn't mind if we ditch the check shit and start scum hunting as per normal.

I wouldn't mind hearing people's thoughts on yamato.

He feels pretty town.

My only small reservation is that during the night, he said something like "I read Chezitwo's and VA's filters, and at least one of them is probably scum." But then after Chez flipped town and people started saying that VA was probably redchecked, he didn't want to lynch VA.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 23:09 GMT
#3744
Man BH, I liked you a lot more when you were yelling that I was scum. Yelling about an red check on god knows who is so much more annoying because you're trying to remove people's ability to think/reason for themselves and just blindly follow a check when we don't even know who the check was on.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 23:44 GMT
#3766
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 23:51 GMT
#3772
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?

To find out if said person has a way to stop the kill from going through?

I dunno, maybe that's no optimal and you could check lesser priority people to see if they had powerful roles that might be more beneficial to kill than the high-priority townies, but I think as scum I would probably rather make sure my kill on the high-priorities could go through than check someone who's just on the sidelines.

Also, things like role-assassin, while I dont remember ever being used in a GreYMisT game, are possible. In that kind of scenario, the mafia role-cop would probably check a higher priority person so the assassin can shoot them.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 23:53 GMT
#3776
On April 01 2015 08:51 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:49 batsnacks wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?


He said his ability is to fake his own death. That implies, to me, that he wasn't actually targeted by KP.

Unless you know something.

I was not killed by KP last night. I chose my manner of death btw. The kill flavor was all my idea.

So, if you're telling the truth, how exactly does you flipping yourself as scum help the town? You say "confuse the mafia" or whatever, but doesn't it confuse town more?

Also, you said your goal was to gather information on people's reads about your death/etc. So what are your thoughts?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2015 23:55 GMT
#3778
On April 01 2015 08:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:51 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?

To find out if said person has a way to stop the kill from going through?

I dunno, maybe that's no optimal and you could check lesser priority people to see if they had powerful roles that might be more beneficial to kill than the high-priority townies, but I think as scum I would probably rather make sure my kill on the high-priorities could go through than check someone who's just on the sidelines.

Also, things like role-assassin, while I dont remember ever being used in a GreYMisT game, are possible. In that kind of scenario, the mafia role-cop would probably check a higher priority person so the assassin can shoot them.

Wasn't there shit like this in catastrophe?

I don't remember because YOU KILLED ME NIGHT 1 /sadface

I know there was a mafia role-assassin in Boardwalk Empire, but that was PYP. It's definitely not an unheard of role on TL.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 01 2015 00:05 GMT
#3788
On April 01 2015 08:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Also, how else am I suppose to use a role where I fake my own death? Like it is the most confusing role ever. It doesn't actually protect me from abilities since my someone got my role name last night. My whole role is confusing and makes no sense to me honestly. Why is it a town role? How is faking my death useful? That was the best I got. Confuse mafia and maybe get reactions to determine who they are. Problem is informing people about this action ruins the whole purpose, so I didn't tell anyone save one person, who I'm waiting to talk and see if that person learned anything in pms or something.

Why even use it at all?

My role is awful and I'll never use either of my abilities because it does nothing to push town closer to finding mafia. The fact is that yours actually pushes town BACKWARDS towards finding mafia.

Zzzzzz.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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