Mafia Mini Mafia2: another miniature game of mafia - Page 4

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 21:16 GMT

#711

It doesn't even matter.

HF writing two cases that seem to be pretty conclusive in his opinion and then doing nothing with that, not even telling us which one he prefers makes him likely mafia.

In addition, using RL excuses to be away from the game makes him mafia too. In his case being afk due to real life = lurking. He has used RL excuses as mafia multiple times so he gets 0 leeway.

Remember this if I die in the night and HF comes back "but I was doing X, I'll show you a picture".

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 21:24 GMT

#715

On April 09 2015 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
A message from the game show host:

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If you're going to try to do a thing, you have to.

a) make sure the thing is actually interesting
b) be in the thread enough to keep the thing going
c) do enough with the thing to make us think you're town

You might as well drop this.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 21:53 GMT

#733

Eden thinks I'm mafia which makes him at best awful and at worst mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:19 GMT

#749

Why are you so shit DR?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:26 GMT

#762

Ok DR doesn't actually sound like 100% mafia.

I'm back on veryfaintlyglowingbear

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:29 GMT

#770

On April 09 2015 07:28 Koshi wrote:

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I am tunneled on the fact he is the scum vigi.

Oh he did claim vigi.

Although I didn't really think that was a claim, but it might be.

In any case, he said he'd post reads after he slept. That's like 20 hours ago.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:30 GMT

#772

On April 09 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar is the aperture Blazinghand of this game with the added bonus of being mean and rude and not jokey like normal. He wants to try hard to find mafia but somehow only has gb as mafia for his one post. His only read was dr and that's just for being bad and nothing more. Not try hard at all just a lot of posts on 1 subject matter blown out of proportion. Lynxh with fire.

get out hf.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:32 GMT

#776

On April 09 2015 07:21 DreadReturn wrote:

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Let's assume that I'm a terribad player Palmar. Where do we go from there? Do we just lynch terribad players and then blame them when they flip town?

Talk to me about how crap by Vivax case is.

This post actually sounds like something an annoyed townie would write. So I really think we should move on from DR.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:39 GMT

#784

I'm just gonna talk about it.

If he is a stubborn asshole, which most of us are, he is not going to cave in to pressure. In fact he's probably less likely to do it as town because that way it's a "well fuck you town" type of situation instead of letting a team down by being policy lynched over something dumb like that.

So no. Not happening.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:53 GMT

#804

Koshi the setup is open, which means there is a town vigi and there is a scum vigi if I understand it correctly?

ie: we know the setup. It is:

JK
Vig
8 VT

RB
Vig
Goon

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:55 GMT

#808

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 22:59 GMT

#815

On April 09 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar is 1000% not town and I will die at night for saying it after doing nothing for the majority of the cycle. There will probably be a vig claim thrown in.

why am I not town HF?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:01 GMT

#819

The fact that you think me wanting to kill GB is because of that one post just shows you're not even paying attention to the thread.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:13 GMT

#830

I am easily not the largest filter ritoky.

@hf:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24045071 <--- I do not understand what the purpose of his post was. I'm not accusing him of posting useless stuff (ritoky's pictures, your game, mostly useless, but clear purpose). I don't know why he posted, so my assumption is that he posted simply to post.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24048888 <--- This is actually a much better point. He is trying to discredit me with something that is never going to be valid (that I somehow should be obligated to either believe everything he says, or nothing).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24051188 <--- and finally this. He promised reads and he hasn't come back to the thread at all. In addition, his filter is very scarce in reads and content outside arguing with me.

Second, you seem to be accusing me of talking only about one thing. I'll help you along:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24045273 <--- giving a few initial reads
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24045623 <--- randomly interjecting regarding rsoultin
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24045810 <--- list post (outdated, but good at the time)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24045962 <--- commenting about onegu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24048932 <--- talking about you
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24048939 <--- giving an opinion on koshi
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24049065 <--- talking about DR

I could go on and on. The only way you can think I've tunneled exclusively on GB is if you haven't read my filter. Go read it and come to a better conclusion than "Palmar is mafia".

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:16 GMT

#834

ah ok

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:22 GMT

#837

Townies:

Ritoky
Koshi
Yamato

Also townies but less sure:

Damdy
DR

Probably 3 mafia below:

rsoultin
HF
Vivax
Onegu
Eden
GB
Obi

Of that list I think I'd most like to grab rsoultin out of it, maybe followed by HF.

I need to sleep. If some incredibly stupid shenanigans happen and I get lynched, make sure that you kill GB. I'm not sure this makes HF mafia but if you allow him to "win" the game in lylo by not being lynched you're bad as hell.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:23 GMT

#839

On April 09 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
You absolutely should know gb is terrible and easily capable of posting useless shit as town and that looks like a classic useless gb omg you mafia cz you don't think like this post. So it's terrible that you continued on that route.

Also that post when it's crunch time and someone needs to be lynched before bed??? Baaaad

I don't really use meta and you know it. I thought he was actually quite good. I remember him being right a lot in Carol or something.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:24 GMT

#840

On April 09 2015 08:22 Holyflare wrote:
Basically it entirely looks like you're super tunnelling on someone as mafia to get them lynched and you feel pretty apathetic to which way this day goes.

Dr you better name claim now.

What does this even mean. Where did you get the sense I'm apathetic about the result of today? I think I've been pretty clear to the point I'm trying to dismantle a wagon on a guy who came back and I didn't really think he looks like mafia, to get my preferred lynch.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:29 GMT

#846

Do you actually believe DR will flip mafia HF?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

April 08 2015 23:41 GMT

#856

Final attempt to push GB:

On April 08 2015 13:46 GlowingBear wrote:
I have to sleep. I'll post my reads once I wake up

He's been away for almost 20 hours. Whatever he does he knows it's going to be worthless with the euros gone to sleep when he finally shows up. He doesn't care who we lynch today.

Also. Go to his filter and look for any recent insights/reasoned reads. He has exactly one.

On April 08 2015 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:

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HF as Mafia would tease obi in order to guarantee a shitfest.
He enters in an argument with obi, obi gets angry because HF is nitpicking him and gives up / start arguing with HF in an useless discussion, disorganising town.

Check Hearthstone Mafia for a precedent.

Everything else is "tease" reads and questions. Few examples of reads that either aren't really explained or him just asking random questions:

On April 08 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:

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On April 08 2015 13:39 Eden1892 wrote:

On April 08 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 08 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:

On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.

I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here?

On April 07 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
No seriously what's the point of you pushing on hf when he's trying to get information out of someone. So what the thread took a serious turn you just drew the conversation away from potential information into more joking.

I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point.

This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi.

On April 07 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 07 2015 13:55 Damdred wrote:

On April 07 2015 13:48 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 07 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:

On April 07 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:

Serious turn? They were joking at each other. How can the "wambulance" gather useful information?
The most serious post here was about HF teasing obi. You disagree with this?

My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go

Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking.
You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why?

which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding

I asked what you think of what I said about HF teasing obi.

I don't understand what kind of information you were expecting from that discussion.

Also, if you think that HF was getting information out of obi and that obi took the chance to get out of the thread because I said HF is mafia, do you think obi is mafia?

This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could.

Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful.

I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument.

So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads?

You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne

Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before

Question.

On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.

Unexplained read.

On April 08 2015 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Rasputin, Dread, obi and Vivax: reads so far?

question.

On April 08 2015 08:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Eden your townreads are weird

Only what, not why

On April 08 2015 04:27 GlowingBear wrote:

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It is.

Eden has posted very content less posts, but palmar treats him differently. This double standards reinforces the scenario where palmar is Mafia.

Oh and I forgot about this. Yet another instance of GB accusing me of something I'm not doing.

Eden was posting posts with no content at the beginning, but I know why he posted them, which is why they didn't jump out to me. I think I know why he posted popcorn, why he trolled around etc. I also think I know why ritoky posted pictures. I understand those.

GB's post is just different.

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