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On April 09 2015 10:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 10:52 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not bullying anyone off of dr until he name claims and i make a decision. he isn't going to, and policy lynching a smurf is a shit reason to vote someone make a real decision between actually viable lynches. His posting is mediocre and on one person and has no follow up to the questions he asked me which is why i want to know if he's a new player smurfing or not because it actually makes all the difference to my read.
well you're not going to get whatever information you're looking for so make a decision instead of holding out for something that isn't going to happen
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On April 09 2015 10:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 10:53 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 10:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 09 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:On April 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso would you be opposed to voting Holyflare? yes his posting today seems townie he's also above the four names I just listed -_- Seeming townie doesn't mean anything, you need to able to explain WHY it's town over just saying "it's townie lol." STOP ARGUING ABOUT HF WE AREN'T LYNCHING HIM TODAY NOW IS THE TIME FOR REAL LYNCHES We're lynching him tomorrow if he doesn't get shot then.
decide who you want to lynch today
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Can we get a votecount please?
need to see who else to yell at
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On April 09 2015 10:56 Holyflare wrote:
And if he just doesn't give a shit about the town or this game and berates me for 'policy lynching' him instead of scum lynching him then i don't care because he values hiding more than he does finding scum because this is clearly wasting my time.
sounds like a non-town thought process
but hey
it's your vote
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On April 09 2015 11:02 Onegu wrote:
Why aren't we lynching koshi? Like he scum reads me hen ever follows up until I'm null for no reason, he only has a five page filter no original reads and only 2 posts of substance.
@eden you know my koshi read is on point, get on it unlike last time and lynching town Onegu instead...
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On April 09 2015 11:05 Holyflare wrote:
Ehh Damdred feels a bit off to me... Plz get better (health wise) + give some more elaborations.
the fact that eden and gb are the damdred wagon makes me extremely apprehensive to acquiesce to more votes on him
I'll read him more tonight.
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On April 09 2015 11:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 11:02 Onegu wrote:
Why aren't we lynching koshi? Like he scum reads me hen ever follows up until I'm null for no reason, he only has a five page filter no original reads and only 2 posts of substance.
@eden you know my koshi read is on point, get on it unlike last time and lynching town Onegu instead... Bolded is untrue. Koshi is town.
you fucker
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On April 09 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 11:10 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 11:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 09 2015 11:02 Onegu wrote:
Why aren't we lynching koshi? Like he scum reads me hen ever follows up until I'm null for no reason, he only has a five page filter no original reads and only 2 posts of substance.
@eden you know my koshi read is on point, get on it unlike last time and lynching town Onegu instead... Bolded is untrue. Koshi is town. you fucker wat
On April 09 2015 10:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 10:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 09 2015 10:53 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 10:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 09 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:On April 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso would you be opposed to voting Holyflare? yes his posting today seems townie he's also above the four names I just listed -_- Seeming townie doesn't mean anything, you need to able to explain WHY it's town over just saying "it's townie lol." STOP ARGUING ABOUT HF WE AREN'T LYNCHING HIM TODAY NOW IS THE TIME FOR REAL LYNCHES We're lynching him tomorrow if he doesn't get shot then. decide who you want to lynch today
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On April 09 2015 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously what is this dr doing as the leading wagon just before deadline? Contemplating existence? Or just letting people try to derail and returning like 10 mins before deadline with either a claim or some other bs.
It does make one wonder.
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On April 09 2015 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
Why didn't you scum read me for afking yamato?
I don't townread you.
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Alright we're not lynching GB, scummy fucks on that lynch
Anyone who thinks I'm town needs to vote DR
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I want both of you (Dam/Obi) to read my posts on DR and comment on them specifically.
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On April 09 2015 11:29 Onegu wrote:
Btw I think HF has the worst post in the thread
Just sheep me. You owe me for Desert Mini.
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On April 09 2015 11:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 11:30 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 11:29 Onegu wrote:
Btw I think HF has the worst post in the thread Just sheep me. You owe me for Desert Mini. You did give me the win. But are you saying you are mafia and I owe you a win?
Do you REALLY think I'm mafia?
REALLY?
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On April 09 2015 11:35 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 11:33 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 11:31 Onegu wrote:On April 09 2015 11:30 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 11:29 Onegu wrote:
Btw I think HF has the worst post in the thread Just sheep me. You owe me for Desert Mini. You did give me the win. But are you saying you are mafia and I owe you a win? Do you REALLY think I'm mafia? REALLY? Nope, but still if we are on the same team why do I owe you?
Because I want to win this game
Just sheep me, for once.
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On April 09 2015 11:36 DreadReturn wrote:
What's with this unrealistic expectation that I'm glued to the screen until deadline hits? If I'm here I'm here, if I'm not I'm not.
GB has been absent for a good 22 hours so I'm inclined to think that I might just be dead wrong with my initial read so
##Unvote Vivax
##Vote GlowingBear
I still think Vivax is a stronger scum read though.
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On April 09 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 11:36 ritoky wrote:On April 09 2015 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 09 2015 11:30 Holyflare wrote:On April 09 2015 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 09 2015 11:25 Holyflare wrote:
Because the points on gb aren't good and this dr guy is anti town as all kinds of hell and not following up anything and not even responding at all while the scummy people in the thread derail it to gb. Damdred also says there's sufficient pushback to his gb read but doesn't explain how this makes gb mafia in the slightest and is an incredibly weird way to ohrase a reason to scum read someone. You added GB to your mafia list, or at the very least, your watch list. What changed? Claimed vig, was reminded he was trying to keep my hidden reads secret, had awful posts like town gb. The only hesitancy was his read on me but he's afk and I'm not lynching an afk guy that talks a lot and can't defend himself over someone so anti town like dr. The only point of dr being antitown is the fact that he won't reveal his smurf, which is a null tell. Why is keeping your hidden reads secret towny and why are awful Gb posts towny posts? so did you not read any of this? On April 08 2015 18:56 yamato77 wrote:DreadReturnSmurf = -2 townpoints We're not starting off well here. On April 08 2015 04:55 DreadReturn wrote:I think Palmer's interpretation of GB's early post is pretty weak. Take the post that Palmer convinces himself with: On April 07 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 19:33 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Damdred pretty hard on GB with his reasoning. Not sure if legit, he chose the worst possible explanation for GB complaining about HF vs Obi.
As if HF asking for an Obi wambulance was oh so informative lol. The point is not whether or not what they were doing was productive. The question is whether GB was doing anything useful at all. Define useful in a wambulance and random gif setting. Okay clearly you're being affected by a small head syndrome. HF and Obi were having a shitfest. I'm not arguing that. When this happens there are a few options open to a player not involved. Some of them are useful, some are useless. Here's a few options GB could have taken. GB could have: - Ignored it and walked away
- Tried to put a stop to it
- Tried to change the subject to something more entertaining or useful
- Joined in on the fun
- Idly complained about it without trying to stop it or change the subject
- Tried to glean some information from it
You'll notice that he did actually take one of the options. The problem I have is that is by fare the worst option available. By his own admission he wasn't trying to stop them, so what was he trying to achieve? He wasn't being funny, he wasn't being sociable, he wasn't trying to bring up a new subject, he wasn't scumhunting or trying to poke people further. Why did GB post? Two points here: "HF and Obi were having a shitfest" - That's not right. They exchanged maybe 5 small one liners and a picture between themselves. It's a very mild scuffle / banter. If GB could be accused of "stopping" anything, it's mild banter. "The problem I have is that is by far the worst option available" - Palmer isn't actually showing why GB is scum with this. How does this make him scum? He points out things that GB could have done, and then concludes that by act of omission GB must be scum. How? There's a huge logical gap there. This type of weak reasoning could easily be applied to anyone else on those pages, and again, we are talking about day 1 early game banter here. Palmer's analysis is weak because he is either exaggerating or misconstruing what GB said and did, and is suggesting GB is scum without actually giving a reason why he is scum. Misses the fucking point. ANY CASE MADE at that point is going to be extremely speculative, especially as the game continues on and more information comes into the thread. This is a weak defense of GB and also an incredibly easy post to make as mafia. What it fails to realize is this: GB's post where he strawmans Palmar is exactly the sort of thing a mafia would do in that situation: use fallacy to dumb down the argument and cause the thread to lose clarity. Palmar coming out of the gate firing is actually a pretty strong towntell, especially if he follows his read up later on. I have yet to see him do that but he may yet be the townie we all want him to be. As someone who is obviously not a mafia newbie, this player SHOULD know better than to attack Palmar for this sort of thing at this stage in the game. MOST people do not have the history to know that Palmar is actually a fucking beast when he wants to be and thus will only know Trollmar. People that only know Trollmar should even townread Palmar for this sort of thing. It doesn't make any sense for someone to attack him. On April 08 2015 06:45 DreadReturn wrote:On April 08 2015 05:23 yamato77 wrote:On April 08 2015 05:10 DreadReturn wrote:On April 08 2015 05:05 yamato77 wrote:On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia
If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them.
Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.
So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water Worst post in the thread award goes to GB for this pile of scummy shit. Could you please explain how this post is alignment indicative? It is both a horrible straw man and a pathetic attempt at defending oneself from accusations. Your post on Palmar's post is also pretty bad. GJ. Again, could you please explain how this post is alignment indicative? All I see is an argument claiming that it is a low quality post, not an argument showing that it is a scum aligned post. Same for your comment on my post. You claim that it's bad - that's it? Am I scum for it? Is Palmar town for his post? Do you have any conclusions? Damdred, could you give one town read that's not Palmar and a brief (like 1 liner) explanation for it? Notably, his post on Palmar FAILS TO COMMENT ON HIS ALIGNMENT. He knocks me for attacking GB (as he did Palmar) yet he essentially did the same thing in GB's defense. Why is DreadReturn so concerned with defending GB, and not with providing actual scumreads? It is a common mafia tactic to defend a scummy-looking townie that people want to lynch in an effort to appear active and to derail town's efforts at consolidating on lynches. Based on this, it isn't difficult at all to see mafia motivation in DR's posting. Plus, he's a fucking smurf. I did. I'm not talking about yamato's reasons for scumreading Dr. I'm talking about Holyflare's.
because you're still arguing with HF
fucking shithead
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It's not SL, I don't believe it for a second. Too many words/post.
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On April 09 2015 11:50 ritoky wrote:
yamato, i need you to speak to me here. like i need you to engage serious mode with me for about 3 minutes.
tell me why i should be voting DR. my reads are telling me vote GB, but the people i am reading town (except damdred) are voting on DR....so who is wrong, me or my town?
Why do you believe GB is scummier than DR?
Is it that you think DR is somehow townie?
If it's at all close I would just vote DR.
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On April 09 2015 11:59 Holyflare wrote:
"oh guys I'm Hapahauli and have no time to play but i have no guts to say that so fuck you all"
-dreadreturn/hapahauli 2015
Hapa is the cohost...
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