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Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them. Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.
So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water
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On April 07 2015 20:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them. Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.
So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water I don't believe this is true. My original assumption was that you were trying to stop them by complaining about it. You later clarified that you weren't. But let's assume I don't really think there is any mafia in the group of you three. Town HF is arguing with Town Obi. Town GB steps in and "look guys, this is shit. drop it". I think this is a fair thing to do as town. I really don't understand why you'd have to be protecting someone. Trying to stop shit to clear the way for more useful conversation is on the surface always a town move. Of course mafia knows this so it's really no big deal (hence why I'm looking at HOW you did what you did, not WHAT you did). Like this post is full of shit and now I seriously want to lynch you and I don't think I'm nitpicking anymore. Trying to argue that you must be protecting one of them or my theory is shit is awful because it makes no logical sense.
You've explained that you don't think my post fits a town perspective I'm questioning what is Mafia motivation to stop that conversation.
The only explanation possible through a Mafia perspective is "GB doesn't want his partner to give information"
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On April 07 2015 21:00 Palmar wrote: By the way, since I'm both "nitpicking" and pushing arguments that "simply don't hold water", do you think I'm mafia GB?
Nope.
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Vivax, do you think rsoultin is Mafia?
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On April 07 2015 21:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 20:56 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them. Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.
So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water I don't believe this is true. My original assumption was that you were trying to stop them by complaining about it. You later clarified that you weren't. But let's assume I don't really think there is any mafia in the group of you three. Town HF is arguing with Town Obi. Town GB steps in and "look guys, this is shit. drop it". I think this is a fair thing to do as town. I really don't understand why you'd have to be protecting someone. Trying to stop shit to clear the way for more useful conversation is on the surface always a town move. Of course mafia knows this so it's really no big deal (hence why I'm looking at HOW you did what you did, not WHAT you did). Like this post is full of shit and now I seriously want to lynch you and I don't think I'm nitpicking anymore. Trying to argue that you must be protecting one of them or my theory is shit is awful because it makes no logical sense. You've explained that you don't think my post fits a town perspective I'm questioning what is Mafia motivation to stop that conversation. The only explanation possible through a Mafia perspective is "GB doesn't want his partner to give information" No, there's plenty of other explanations. Also, I found it intriguing until you claimed to have not been trying to stop it. I may have leaned towards you being mafia at the time, but it's not until you specifically said you had not been tryign to stop it that I became really interested. And now you seem back on talking about ho you were trying to stop the conversation? Anyway, here's a list of possible reasons you might post this as mafia, irrelevant of whether your intention was to joke and get a lololol response or to stop the discussion. a) help build "town atmosphere" for brownie points b) you're mafia, you need to post. This is something that's happening in the thread, let's post about it. c) comment on something for appearances without really shutting it down. Like there's such a big disconnect here. You have said that you were not trying to stop them, and now you want me to explain why you'd try to stop them as mafia? This is making my brain hurt.
You ASSUME that I tried to stop conversation. If that's so, I need a motivation behind it. Let's talk about the motivations you've brought: A) this can come from both perspectives, so you're calling me Mafia for something you know is null, specially at the beginning of the game B) so do townies. Again, null indicative. C) 1) joke phase 2) if you assume that I tried to stop and effectively stopped discussion, you can't say that it was for appearance.
Now, if you ADMIT a Mafia would do that to gain brownie points, the exact moment I said it was a joke should put down your suspicions against me.
I thought you were nitpicking me to generate discussion in a discussion-less thread, but now this is getting exaggerated.
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On April 07 2015 21:41 Palmar wrote: Like to be clear, I BELIEVE you when you say you were not trying to stop the discussion. I have never questioned that.
Oh, okay.
So you're assuming I've posted just to keep posting as Mafia. Is that your accusation?
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Rasputin, what do you think of Damdred?
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On April 07 2015 21:53 Palmar wrote: Like that's the entire reason I'm voting you. I believe you posted without saying anything. Interjected yourself into a discussion without adding anything.
I think the above are mafia traits.
Are you Mafia with Damdy?
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On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote: You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf...
Because I thought he was nitpicking just to generate discussion. Since he isn't, and since he thinks I was posting just to post, I am reevaluating my position.
He is calling me Mafia for a single post I've made without evaluating my overall gameplay. More than this, he is calling me Mafia for something that is null indicative and that other players have been doing (ritoky, for example). He is having a groundless tunnel and double standards by parroting Damdred.
It fits perfectly the Mafia partner that comes to defend his buddy from a call out, discrediting the other player
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On April 07 2015 21:55 Damdred wrote: I like this sexiness that palmar is bringing into the thread, looks like a 15/10 on the sex scale
I honestly don't know what question I'm not answering. If it is obi mafia idk hasn't looked the best but not much to go on in that regard. However you on the other hand are probably mafia.
I'm not sure about RS one of his posts here give me the willies'. She says just going to let you guys go at it basically when she's a peacemaker as town meh.
As I said before, if you think I deliberately stopped the early discussion, it probably was to prevent a scum partner to give information.
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Vivax you still didn't answer me if you think rsoultin is Mafia. Palmar, who are my partners? Koshi, give reads.
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On April 07 2015 22:35 Damdred wrote: GB you just called palmar mafia and now ask who your partners are? Literally you just talked to palmar like he's town, you also are voting your secondary scum read in palmar instead of pushing your primary in damdred.
I'm trying to further analyse his alignment because he could be town. Damdy, cmon.
I'm voting him first because I have more evidences that he is Mafia than you. Although, seriously, this is the second time you call me out for silly things. You know my gameplay too well to be calling me Mafia for such weak basis
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Do you have any other reads?0
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I just woke up.
HF, you are a genius
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On April 07 2015 22:48 Damdred wrote: Lol weak you ask everyone what they think about me and you don even follow up showing past examples of how this could be my scum game like you normally do. Instead you vote one of the towniest looking people in the entire thread
of course I have reads but I don't bow to scum demands
Lol Damdy. Last time you said this you were Mafia. I also don't have to rely on meta this early. Again, I also know well your gameplay so I can figure you out later better. I need more information on you so I can draft a meta argument. That is why I think you should be Mafia, though: jumping too fast on the conclusion that I am Mafia.
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On April 07 2015 21:41 Palmar wrote: Like to be clear, I BELIEVE you when you say you were not trying to stop the discussion. I have never questioned that.
On April 07 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 22:16 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote: You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf... Because I thought he was nitpicking just to generate discussion. Since he isn't, and since he thinks I was posting just to post, I am reevaluating my position. He is calling me Mafia for a single post I've made without evaluating my overall gameplay. More than this, he is calling me Mafia for something that is null indicative and that other players have been doing (ritoky, for example). He is having a groundless tunnel and double standards by parroting Damdred. It fits perfectly the Mafia partner that comes to defend his buddy from a call out, discrediting the other player I don't agree with the bolded. If you read my biggest post, and a followup after that, it's clear that I don't believe you were trying to be funny. It is super clear that ritoky's opening posts are trying to be funny/trolling. That's the difference. I know why ritoky posted. I don't know why you posted.
"I believe in you but I don't really believe in you."
I'm confused
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On April 08 2015 03:31 rsoultin wrote: @koshi, reasons for your scumteam, por favor
@holyflare lol i may not go so far as a policy lynch, but this better have a point and soon xP i don't mind indulging you a bit on a whim and a hunch but a holyflare lynch is soooooo tasty
@obi so your only scumread is eden yet you were voting hf? what changed?
@damdy bby you may think i don't notice that next-grade-lvl buddying but it's a little blatant. come play with all of us in the sandbox
@palmar do your thing. your reads aren't terrible
@gb just cause i'm reserving judgement to see how close our thought processes are doesn't mean you can phone it in with impunity lol what do you think of this train forming on you boyo?
I'm not really sure. I'm having a hard time to see whether people are following a bad case to generate discussion or really believes in a bad case. Town Palmar could be trying to see who blindly sheeps him to analyse their alignment. Mafia Palmar could be trying to paint me red to discredit my argument against Damdred, making Damdred also Mafia.
I'm trying to see it from both perspectives but second one seems more plausible, as he keeps pushing the matter and is wasting town time
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Ritoky and Rasputin, what are your reads on palmar?
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It is also odd that Palmar has no opinion on Eden.
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