I'm the towniest of the bunch, activity wise and gameplay wise. I show serious doubt about my reads, I talk the most about my reads, I point out what's to point out whereas Damdred says I'm scum cause votes. Well I got a role pm and it doesn't say I'm mafia so suck on that. Scum been in bussing mode since D1 thx to Damdred. And the best part is that it works.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 19:48 GMT

#3390

What time is it in USA? Around 4 PM?

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 20:51 GMT

#3392

Dude let me finish my dota game then we talk

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:05 GMT

#3394

It's almost over, it's a win and I'm sort of drunk.

Anyway, did you read my posts? What's ur opinion so far.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:11 GMT

#3395

Game over, collecting le win.

Anyway yamato, I think that if you're mafia you deserve the win for stepping up your play 100 fold and I'll look forward to playing with you again given that you improved, unlike what I've seen of you so far.

I'm still more prone to believe that Damdred simply said "fuck it let's bus my teammates" given his irl circumstances and that you are genuinely convinced I must be mafia with all the cred from pushing scum Damdred has raked in.

SO it's entirely up to you to decide who gets lynched today and I've made my decision in the old tinfoil manner that it's Damdred, cause like in my last lylo with ExO and rainbows it was just that way with ExO being the usual lynch bait and Rainbows ebing the tryhard good-look mafia who I only lynched thanks to kush dying at night after making a case for him being mafia.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:16 GMT

#3398

Did he post that reagrding Palmar?

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:31 GMT

#3400

Then talk to me yamato, it makes me hopeful you actually went back and noticed that. I want to win this game and carry all the swag and you diggging that up gives you a major share of the swag as well so it'S time talk.

If you're mafia I think you just deserve the win for being so different from your usual. I'm just my usual town, highly active and often crazy, Damdred to his defense has always been on the right side of the votecount.

You actually show surprising insight into EdeN's posts, your original argument for Damdred being town becoming null.

It's you who has the power to decide who wi ns today. Palmar once formulated it this way or somethng alike (the situation at lylo, no warratny for legit naming) : The victim, the puppet, and the puppetmaster.

Your task is to figure out who here is what. I decided that Damdred is mafia (after rereading and mentioning what led me to this). You decided that you are unsure. Damdred decided that I am mafia (based on vote, but I am town and already tried to disprove that this is the case earlier in the game, I am quite sure I talked about this).

So if you're mafia you already won yamato. If you are town you have the power, since you are the puppet, try to use it.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:39 GMT

#3402

Ya well just talk dude. You have the decision in your hand. Vivax scumreads Damdre, Dam scumreads Vivax.

Regardless of who earned most cred throughout the game only one is the mafia. You have the chcoice.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:41 GMT

#3403

And with the choice comes the responsibility. For me it's enough to reread D1, for Dam it's enough to analyse votecount and talk to you like you're town. For me it isn't this easy but over the progress of the discourse I have decided that Dam is more likely scum, so now it's up to you.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:44 GMT

#3405

What happens at lylo? The remaining mafia, if he's experienced, has to show insecurity about the last option in order to not be identified as a commong bandwagoner. He has to pick out the target most likely to be lynched. Obviously a wifom part plays in here but if the mafia thinks that the pupper is predictable he will try to lynch the predictable target for the puppet.

It's actually no easy decision as it wasn't for me in my last lylo.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:46 GMT

#3406

On April 24 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
You didn't even look at Yamato all you did was take a fee of ny posts and post them.

You didn't look at ANY of the other parts of the day. Or talk about Yamato whatsoever. All you did since before Obi died was start the shadow on me.

What I did was reread D1 and simply find out what stuck out to me, and it was mostly you. No bias. As my bias would have tended towards yamato.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:48 GMT

#3409

Whatever happens is that if yamato is the last mafia he already won, Damdred is confirmed monitoring the thread with his last post while trying to not take influence on it unless he thinks it's necessary. So am I , but the necessity comes from the point of view that over the course of the day and the little discussion I (I*) led, that Damdred is the last mafia.

Not NKd, not intent on looking suspicious by being on the wrong side of the wagons.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:54 GMT

#3412

On April 24 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote:

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well, to be fair you haven't seemed too terribly interested in finding the last mafia ever since ritoky died

you've just... been here.

This post confirmes to me that I have been right on yamato being the town here. All he had to do was to just stay on me with his old confidence. He hasn't been right on everything and he hasn't been wrong on everything.

GB had 3 votes FROM ALL OF US on day 1. Now it's to decide who has been bussing him all the way. Is it the guy who expected to give him cred or get the cred? Or is the 2 guys who weren't that sure all the time. I think it's the latter.

Too clean play is as mafia indicative as the "wrong" play given that Damdreds irl issues most likely have been real.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 21:56 GMT

#3414

If Dam likes to reply that the posts that make no sense stem from him being high on painkillers, then he also has to admit that his scumread on scum has to stem from that. But the logic between the both is miles away.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 22:39 GMT

#3436

[QUOTE]On April 24 2015 07:26 Damdred wrote:
I'm at work for another 3 hours, so can't do massive filtering. 16 hour shifts are fun.

I think vivax is mafia for a few reasons but give me a minute to,type,them up[/QUOTE]

LOL IRL

AT LYLO

If yammo is scum here he can have the win just for improving idgaf.

I've been talking all this day and you've been around, yet the only time it seems to matter is when I start talking. No, not even then, it's when you start being scumread by the two townies left.

Pants down Damdred.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 22:53 GMT

#3442

On April 24 2015 07:39 yamato77 wrote:

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maaaaaaaaaaaan

it would make me feel SO MUCH BETTER if you were just mafia

SO

MUCH

BETTER

Ya but I'm not just mafia, I mean, look at our last games in a team. We had the advantage of knoing our alignemtns and I did what? Shoot my teammate in expectation of giing me enough cred to survive against a town that had the means of firguring me out despite the cred I have been expecting.

Fruity mafia. I don't put it past myself but mafia's objective is to survive and Dam's play in this regard has been much better in this regard. I came to my conclusion revisiting D1 and the intereactions at a time when mafia was most confident in their abilities to do that.

Plus Damdred is present at all times even at work and he just feels it worthy to fight back when you strt wavering, this is probably the strongest point.

What is your motivation to take initiative and start spreading doubt when all you need is a lynch (as mafia?)? None. But Damdred has been doing exactly that. He waited to see how we would react to each other and then make a deciision when it seemed clear.

Yet you, cleverly, reappared when he made that decision and he had to post again at a time where I felt like posting anyway cause we're just that close to a victory.

Objectively he didn't bitch about the Koshi lynch (and didn't try to change it), he tried to make it appear scummy from my PoV today when it was the only rational play for a townie who tries to not get himself lynched when he knows that Obi is getting lynched next in a Koshi vs Yamato vs Damdred situation.

Objectively he didn't play today except when I attacked his play.

You are the puppet iny my current reads-point-of-view yamato. You decide. It's no easy decision but it*'s the decision that can give leverage on your scumnhunting ability.

I decided that you are town while revisiting D1 and hence you have the ability to either make the correct decision as town or win anyway as mafia. It's entirely up to you.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 22:55 GMT

#3443

Lots of errors in my post cuz drunk-y and stuff but it's 100 % genuine even when it appears dumb.

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 22:58 GMT

#3445

On April 24 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote:
But vivax didn't you decide that Yamato was Scum for his d1 previously and it's only now that I have a hard stances announced you flipped that

Herp a derp you talk to me like I'm town

Vivax

21972 Posts

April 23 2015 23:04 GMT

#3447

You could have asked me that all day long yet you only do that when you have a reason to be afraid dude.