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On April 19 2015 06:39 yamato77 wrote:
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Btw whats this?
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Yamato I thought the stuff you said about Damdred through again and revisited Eden's filter. We actually can't be certain who he jailed. He says two different things and I didn't spot a bread crumb that says for certain who he jailed.
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On April 20 2015 06:17 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry to disagree really (not really). Eden makes it really clear before he realizes oneg is making a play that jk must of jailed,me.
That's what I thought too but later he said this.
On April 12 2015 13:59 Eden1892 wrote:
Ok so we know mafia shot Holyflare and rsoultin n1 at this point. We also know about the vote switch thing SL talked about. Those 2 things in combination pretty much make Vivax mafia right?
And then Palmar is town as is everyone who voted GB. yamato also town for having the chance to switch when I told him to and not doing it. (maybe?) Honestly last mafia pretty much has to be afk so probably ritoky.
On April 11 2015 06:31 Eden1892 wrote:
Palmar cuz he got jailed and I'm pretty sure he carried kp instead of being shot at. At the very least if I'm wrong about that I want to make him go super obvious town mode like he did at the end of XXX
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On April 20 2015 07:00 Damdred wrote:
And if you want to go on and call me Scum do it now. Instead of hinting at it
Nah, I'm rereading Obi atm at the expense of my tired eyes.
I surely don't feel motivated to make cases on anyone until the NK clears some more up. I hope the resolution ends up in scum having to shoot. In games where scum withholds they usually can only withhold one night. In earlier games they'd have two shots in the following.
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On April 13 2015 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
He probably shot Eden. He even softed the fact that he wanted Eden dead. There is no world where mafia shoots Eden because he was vigi/lynch fodder.
It's all irrelevant speculation until postgame anyways. If Eden was town, this means that ritoky is the lynch and there's 0 reason to lynch outside of him today.
##vote ritoky
First vote on ritoky into D3
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Yea I'm pretty sure I want to scratch Obi as mafia, wouldn't mind losing to him being more active than the other two and actually putting the most meaningful votes on scum.
1 down.
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On April 20 2015 13:32 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 07:36 Vivax wrote:
Yea I'm pretty sure I want to scratch Obi as mafia, wouldn't mind losing to him being more active than the other two and actually putting the most meaningful votes on scum.
1 down. like this is just bad real bad
Cause you disagree? Cause I talk about something I've been thinking for the most part throughout the game after revisiting older parts of the game?
What is bad here exactly except that I've decided to narrow down the circle of possible scum to you and Damdred after rereading Eden and seeing that he might as well have jailed Palmar.
Your tone is purely accusatory, you don't seem puzzled at all. That is bad. Cause all scum has to do is think through who the easiest target is and then keep pushing him. So you fall into that pattern.
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Interesting NK. It's playing time!
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Yamato and Damdred are tough to crack on D1.
Around page 14-16 Damdred asks who claimed vig, HF replies it was GB. Dam doesn't really try to evaluate here, he still just asks to kill him. No hints as to whether he believes it or not. Also both yam and Damdred absent on the fights happening there. Me vs Palmar for example, or me vs Koshi. Of the both it's actually yamato who is more snipe-y but on the other hand he participates in some way.
So that's observation nr. 1.
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On April 08 2015 20:34 Vivax wrote:List time? List time. Town pile:Eden - Progression from scumreading me for calling his post out without voting to townreading me for mindmeld seems legit Yamato - He doesn't actually suck Town on probation:Ritoky - Pointing out DR's softball. Good point. The only issue remaining is that he says "Damdred probably not mafia but if mafia mafia with DR". Still that's the only good thing I saw from him, rest is annoying picture spam, also kinda weird he points that out without scumreading either of them (or does he, need an answer?) Meh pile:
GB - Palmar had a point with him staying on the sidelines in the Obi vs HF matter. His argument that he has to be scum with one of them to be scum doesn't hold water. But Palmars last post on him with all the believing shit sounds like Palmar made something massive about something he could have said in a single line, and I don't see that being the scummiest post in the thread. Palmar - Back into meh pile for the confusing post nobody understands. I have seen such a post on marv in a game a while ago. Palmar wasn't mafia but he also wasn't right. So you become meh. Noobs who tunnel me until I read them as scum for some reason cause they annoy the hell out of me (I want to believe he's scum for being so annoying): Koshi Close to going to scum hellDamdred - calls out GB but doesn't discuss Palmar's points on GB. Prefers to point out his boner for being townread by him instead. Reads feel superficial. Scummy:Obi - Should scumread HF but says he doesn't know who else to vote besides Eden. I see no townie reason for holding back here. + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2015 14:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:How? He hasn't even done anything yet. @Rso: I have played a large number of games with Hf and I have never once seen him do this as town. On April 08 2015 00:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Eden is probably mafia just because of his complete lack of energy.
Dnu who else I'd vote. Dread Return - Feels like he only commented on one thing in a tryhard fashion simply cause it was the thing most people seemed to pay attention to. Question to Damdred seemed disconnected but he justified it in a believable way. The issue remains that he only paid attention to that one matter which is a scum trait in my opinion. Also doesn't want to give a read on Palmar in the process of arguing that he misconstrued GB. rsoultin: Question spam, mafia trait. Her only scumreads are me and yamato. 99 % town. The 99 % is yamato. Onegu and HF townread for no reason.
Wtf? Vig pls don't wanna readHF Onegu
On April 09 2015 09:01 Damdred wrote:
Dr what is so bad about vivax, I read his filter his early call out to me didn't look bad to me, his list post wasn't horrible wrong in places but not bad and he is generally making good observations?
Damdred samaritan here, doesn't mind GB being in a null pile, Eden in the townie pile and himself being in a scummy pile when he defends my post apparently. Observation Nr. 2.
tl ; dr: Why does he say I make good observations when my reads are so different. Seems too content with my list for my taste and too trusting of me. Doesn't lash back about being called scummy.
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On April 23 2015 05:47 Damdred wrote:
Why should it matter if I'm ok being called scummy at that point? I was sick as a dog and unable to do a lot and high for a lot. Also I'm asking what the problem is to get more information from dr. I didn't think you should of been the lynch that day.
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I just woke up ill be around
Gathered anything while being around? Today is the day of winning so I'd expect some more discourse than the last few days.
Yamato apparently decided I'm mafia long ago and feels it' the safest option for him. No point in trying to reread and find out if you're wrong. Right, yamato?
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Now I'm not 100 % sure who of you is mafia but the town guy has one task: Be on the fence. Yamato already failed to do that so I'll go ahead and say that he's either bad or scum. I'm not sure if I can tell that his lack of strategy comes from his alignment or cause he can't think logically and plan ahead.
Damdred is kind of being on the fence although I have a hard time telling if he's just being lazy.
Now is the moment to dig up parts of the game you found scummy about your main scumread and present them. The beauty of lylo is that we can talk on a deeper level without so many people around.
Guess you can start with me.
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On April 23 2015 09:22 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 08:56 Vivax wrote:On April 23 2015 05:47 Damdred wrote:
Why should it matter if I'm ok being called scummy at that point? I was sick as a dog and unable to do a lot and high for a lot. Also I'm asking what the problem is to get more information from dr. I didn't think you should of been the lynch that day.
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I just woke up ill be around Gathered anything while being around? Today is the day of winning so I'd expect some more discourse than the last few days. Yamato apparently decided I'm mafia long ago and feels it' the safest option for him. No point in trying to reread and find out if you're wrong. Right, yamato? damdred is literally confirmed town by the N1 actions, I've explained this in my filter also you've been scum all game so there's that also WHO THE FUCK SHOOTS OBI?! LOLOL
He's only confirmed if you knew the actions. If scum fake - RBd him then he isn't. I already said that. Bad memory or tmi yamato?
Tell me how you KNOW that he has been jailed, show me the posts in Edens filter.
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On April 23 2015 09:35 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 09:34 Vivax wrote:On April 23 2015 09:22 yamato77 wrote:On April 23 2015 08:56 Vivax wrote:On April 23 2015 05:47 Damdred wrote:
Why should it matter if I'm ok being called scummy at that point? I was sick as a dog and unable to do a lot and high for a lot. Also I'm asking what the problem is to get more information from dr. I didn't think you should of been the lynch that day.
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I just woke up ill be around Gathered anything while being around? Today is the day of winning so I'd expect some more discourse than the last few days. Yamato apparently decided I'm mafia long ago and feels it' the safest option for him. No point in trying to reread and find out if you're wrong. Right, yamato? damdred is literally confirmed town by the N1 actions, I've explained this in my filter also you've been scum all game so there's that also WHO THE FUCK SHOOTS OBI?! LOLOL He's only confirmed if you knew the actions. If scum fake - RBd him then he isn't. I already said that. Bad memory or tmi yamato? Tell me how you KNOW that he has been jailed, show me the posts in Edens filter. so you believe scum fake-rbed with a claimed vig and a jailkeeper in the game?
It's not what I believe (yet), it's what I think is possible. I'm saying your read on Dam for that reason doesn't make sense cause he can fake claim rb and use his shot as scum vig.
Doesn't prove anything about Damdred, it just proves that your reasoning for that confirmed town read is faulty.
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On April 09 2015 11:58 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +
Why is DreadReturn so concerned with defending GB, and not with providing actual scumreads? It is a common mafia tactic to defend a scummy-looking townie that people want to lynch in an effort to appear active and to derail town's efforts at consolidating on lynches. Based on this, it isn't difficult at all to see mafia motivation in DR's posting.
Plus, he's a fucking smurf.
I think this is my favorite part of what I've read about DR,( I hate playing with smurfs and DR you should just claim honestly if you are town and care about the game going forward. ) One thing that I do like is the effort he puts in on some of his read posts, his Vivax read I disagree with and he says koshi already made a similar read and I'm trying to determine whether hes just parroting to look better as scum or hes actually doing things as town. I just don't see a lot of scum motivation going after Palmar like he did early or pushing Vivax when it was him on the block.
Here comes the next funny observation. Damdred caling his favourite part the part where DR gets called scum for defending a scummy looking townie (GB lol), who Dam has been hard scumreading all day long.
Or the "Angels" picture from ritoky. You think he'd put himself into a town pile like that with a scumbuddy? Would be quite bold.
More research needed but rereading D1 so far mostly Damdred stuck out to me.
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Lesson from Guardians: Disregard action wifom, lynch cred, lynch scummy looking people.
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Yup, 0 scum on DR. I don't know why you act so surprised, GB and ritoky were somewhere else anyway, and so was the third mafia.
So Damdred, I don't see much doubt in you so far. It's the day of winning or losing. Yamato sees you as confirmed town, what are you waiting for to make your decision? I only see you reacting to me so far.
It should suggest you don't know what to do yet but I don't see much way to figure it out except ask me why I talk to yamato like he's town which is meaningless.
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It's amazing both of you aren't rereading, 1 guy already decided and both don't do any work. GJ on throwing whoever is the town there. You made it really hard to tell.
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On April 23 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Its not meaningless at all, you made your decision to tunnel on me before the day started and have only pushed on and claim you are rereading when all you have done is look at d1 of mine and ignores other interactions I had on that day.
So yea I'm trying to decide which of you is scum its honestly probably you for the way votes went d2 the way you talk to Yamato here when you should be suspecting him instead you talk to him why his read is wrong in your eyes rather than trying to push him as scummy you only push me who you have been hinting at pushing for the past cycle or so.
Pretty sure you are the scum honestly
I didn't decide to tunnel you, I just dug up everything I could find on the D1 reread and confronted you with something that is scummy.
Yamato's read can be wrong regardless of alingnment. Right now you sound very nervous dude. I mean, these accusations about me talking to yamato like I could think he's not scum which is a evry real possibility you should be able to see since in the same lines you complain about being "tunneled" don't sound like something you would believe.
I don't take anything for granted at lylo so accusing me of not speaking to just one guy like he's confirmed scum is pretty shitty. I want to evaluate both of you but yamato doesn't allow it by not posting at all except taunting, semi-aggressive posts and you just react to my posts without doing anything else on your own.
Whoever is town of you both is playing very badly and it's sad. I still was the most active guy in the game, I noticed how on D1 I interacted with a ton of people. Be it Koshi or Palmar, when that happened both you and yamato didn't chime in much. Actually yamato chimed in more whereas your D1 Damdred is characterized by multiple things that don't make sense from your PoV, like those defenses I quoted, and a pure focus on GB as scum.
I'm not sure I buy it that you were so much more confident on GB than you were on Eden given you called the latter scum on multiple times as well but it still was GB no matter what happened. I don't know if it's a play or not.
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People in retrospect will be looking back at this lylo and see one guy afk vote, one guy do nothing at all except act unsure without doing anything to remove that insecurity, and one guy actually doing work and still get lynched.
WP whoever of you is town.
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