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I was trying to imitate the popular read dump in order of scummy to townie. I feel most strongly on Vivax. Like, I can put words to it. The other guys? I ticked off people who I thought was more townie and that's the list I ended up with. Do I feel strongly on those two? Not particularly. But it's the closest thing I have to more scum reads. | ||
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On April 09 2015 09:01 Damdred wrote: Dr what is so bad about vivax, I read his filter his early call out to me didn't look bad to me, his list post wasn't horrible wrong in places but not bad and he is generally making good observations? To generalize, it would be he is never at the forefront of discussion - he isn't really getting his thoughts out there or pushing his agenda. Merely commenting and taking a backseat approach to things. It gives off the feeling that he wants to look active, but isn't interested in actually getting scum lynched. Additionally, his viewpoint of the GB / Palmar / me trio has shifted in a way that I think was unnatural. | ||
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One of the early town tells I saw in GB was that he was, perhaps, one of the first to notice HF's little hidden posts. I know I missed the post (maybe cause I was skimming past the HF game ones), but he was attentive enough to see it. And I correlate attentiveness to thread somewhat to towniness, since most of the time scum don't really read that closely. Agree / disagree? | ||
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On April 09 2015 09:26 Palmar wrote: You're still bad even if I'm defending you DR. I mean ... sure. That's part of why I'm smurfing. But like ... you can give feedback and stuff on how not to be bad or something? | ||
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Unless you are of opinion that only scum would not reveal identity when smurfing? | ||
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GB has been absent for a good 22 hours so I'm inclined to think that I might just be dead wrong with my initial read so ##Unvote Vivax ##Vote GlowingBear I still think Vivax is a stronger scum read though. | ||
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On April 09 2015 10:11 Holyflare wrote: I don't want to lynch vivax when he has so much potential. His scum games are never over like 5 pages total in 5 cycles either. What's to followup here? "No, Vivax isn't worth it, let's kill him"? Give everyone you can meta read a pass? You aren't talking about Vivax's actions beside post count, which isn't really addressing my case at all. | ||
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Just agree with it, and let's talk fresh about Vivax (regardless of what I flip, discussing him now is good). If anything you want me to say lots of stuff about lots of people. Final List: yamato - I agreed with most of his full effort read and his list lined up well with mine. Koshi - same as above. I think this is the style I would like to emulate, but I went too far with the silence. My bad. Palmar - I always have an (un)healthy starting suspicion for strong players, so it's hard to put him higher. Damdred - Reasonable posts. I wish he would be a bit more vocal but he is sick or something. rsoultin - I'm not sure how to explain it ... but something like carefree? Very relaxed demeanor, Eden - also read resoultin town early and caught the hidden post. ritoky - has shown he is attentive to thread despite pictures etc. Glowingbear (?) - Based on his first half D1 play, I'd still say town. D2 total absence and Palmar's insistence makes me iffy. Onegu - nondescript. I can't really say much. ObiWan - same here. HolyFlare - fixated on getting me to reveal my identity ... ? Gives Vivax a pass because of potential, so is ignoring the bulk of my points against him. Vivax - It's the best I've got. Maybe it's harder to see from your perspectives because I'm so scummy, or maybe my reads are in fact not that good this game. Good luck town. I'll field whatever questions you have here or post game. (I still might not reveal who I am then for personal reasons, but we can reserve that discussion for then). | ||
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Hold Vivax and HF accountable for tomorrow, make sure they don't skate like they did today. | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:24 DreadReturn wrote: Alright maybe this will help. Vivax HF Obi other people. I don't feel strongly about Obi. He is forgettable. In my spreadsheet he has the least amount of comments so by virtue of being most forgettable, he gets relegated to third place. HF, I got nothing. My strongest read I have is on Vivax. You said it sucks. Ok. Next is you. I guess you think that sucks to. Distant third is Obi, and only by process of elimination. I'm not going to fabricate reads. I have him as scum because I have everyone else slightly more town than him. As a point of morale, if you actively shut down what I bring to the table, what makes you think I want to keep engaging in conversation with you? What can I even bring? Why wouldn't anyone want to just ignore you? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Vivax | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:16 Holyflare wrote: Basically there's more than one mafia in the game and if you're incapable of looking past that to talk about other reads then you need to brush up on that fact. It's also super crazy to scum read the guy giving you a free out. Yes I understand that I have been narrow sighted. It's also tough for me to just make up reads. | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote: Setup Information This game setup is open. The possible roles and number of each role is disclosed here. Town One of each of the following roles will be among the town: Town Jailkeeper(JK)(town): You are the Town Jailkeeper! Each night you may choose a player currently alive to incarcerate. That player may not use any actions in the night and also will be protected from all KP that night. All of it, even if three people shoot that guy he will live. You win with town, jailkeeper. Town Vigilante(vig)(town): You are the Town Vigilante! You have a gun, which can fire bullets. You have one bullet, which can be fired from your gun, which you can fire at a player in the night. You win with town, and are the vigilante. Vanilla Townie(VT)(town): You are a vanilla townie. You are similar to vanilla, in that you are the most basic type of town. Just like vanilla is to icecream. You win with town, as you are town. There will be eight players with this role. There will be eight vanilla townies. Mafia One of each of the following roles will be among the mafia: Mafia Vigilante(vig)(mafia): You are the Mafia Vigilante! You are similar to the town vigilante in that you have a single bullet to shoot at night. If you find yourself roleblocked on the night you shoot, your bullet is returned to you. You are mafia. You win with mafia. Mafia Roleblocker(RB)(mafia): You are the Mafia Roleblocker! Each night, as the roleblocker, you may block a player from using their role. If that player uses any power associated with the role they are playing, it is blocked. You win with mafia, and block roles. Mafia Goon(goon)(mafia): You are the Mafia Goon! The mafia uses you to do their dirty work, similar to a goon. You have no powers, aside from being able to carry the kill for the mafia. The other mafia can carry it, but you can too. You are mafia and win with mafia. For clarity, does that mean there is both 1 town jk, 1 town vig, 1 mafia vig, 1 mafia rb in the game, or 1 town jk / vig, 1 mafia vig/rb in the game? | ||
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On April 08 2015 21:58 Koshi wrote: Vivax is mafia. Unlike me his clarification for his reads were made to be serious. So it is a problem that I laugh at them pretty loudly. The read that Vivax gives on GB is really awful. It is rehearsing something really dumb GB said and painting it scummy? Well, he isn't really painting it scummy, he is for some reason scumreading GB for it... And then townreading GB because Palmar made a horrible case on GB. How does that work? At least that's how I read it. Terrible stuff. The read on Palmar doesn't make sense. Basically Palmar made a post which demoted him from town to meh even though Vivax remembers town!Palmar making such a post recently. How can you demote somebody from townread to null if that person does something meta towny? Read on Obi seems pretty dramatical. The thing Obi said about HF isn't Obi scumreading HF, it is Obi not understanding why the person he quoted townreaded HF. Digging this back up for attention. | ||
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