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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 12 2015 22:11 GMT
#2392
On April 08 2015 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia
If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them.
Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.

So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water

Worst post in the thread award goes to GB for this pile of scummy shit.



On April 08 2015 18:56 yamato77 wrote:

Palmar

I've talked quite a bit about what I think of Palmar already, but I will say that I hope he comes back to the thread to update his reads and continue to push other things. I wouldn't like it if he continued to push GB or if he reverted to trolling. Yes, this is putting an expectation about a player's play out into the thread and preempting their return (which is bad, don't do it) but I'm confident enough in my ability to read Palmar that I'm not concerned with him knowing what I would usually expect.


On April 12 2015 11:12 yamato77 wrote:
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On April 12 2015 05:23 Vivax wrote:
Palmar

I've talked quite a bit about what I think of Palmar already, but I will say that I hope he comes back to the thread to update his reads and continue to push other things. I wouldn't like it if he continued to push GB or if he reverted to trolling. Yes, this is putting an expectation about a player's play out into the thread and preempting their return (which is bad, don't do it) but I'm confident enough in my ability to read Palmar that I'm not concerned with him knowing what I would usually expect.

On April 08 2015 11:06 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:30 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.

I think both of you are scum


For shitty reasoning.
You don't even try to push me to further analyse my alignment, you just come to the thread, say people are bad or that they are scum, then go back to your cover

Palmar did plenty



This is mafia. He's taking my quotes out of context in an attempt to make me look bad. I talked about Palmar A TON in my post that he pulls that first quote from, yet he does the scummy as shit thing and quotes a post from before that has no context.

Vivax couldn't be this fucking stupid as mafia. If he's reading the post he's quoting from, he'd realize how fucking stupid it is to make a shit post like this and he wouldn't. However, mafia Vivax both gives no fucks and would maliciously misrepresent my post in an attempt to make me look worse.


Talked a ton.

Palmar/Koshi top town.
Palmar did plenty.

Then he townreads GB and Eden in his big post after talking the most about them.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 07:23 GMT
#2438
So Palmar I'm saying fuck you if yamato flips mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 07:35 GMT
#2441
Last try, since nobody except Damdred and SL listened when I posted my case:

Do actually read his town games in his profile. Read LIX, read Carnival Cruise. All over 10 p of filter and actually containing big insightful cases on single players.

Then read his scum games. Filter size, minimal. Winded bullshitty posts or small aimless posts. Like this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 08:42 GMT
#2445
On April 13 2015 16:40 Koshi wrote:
He was town in Aperture. Can you check it? It seems the same like here except he is a lot less funny here.


Yea makes me even think more that he's mafia cause he doesn't seem to be excessively aggressive in calling out his reas compared to this game. A much more relaxed tone.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 11:59 GMT
#2457
Palmar we both are filter leaders.

Do I have to remind you of titanic?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 12:04 GMT
#2458
Unless you believe I have magically gotten better at playing scum when I didn't roll scum in fucking ages, making it impossible for me to exercise posting as much as I do as town, you can't believe I'm scum.

If there's one thing hard to fake it's the motivation to post a lot.

Also all this game besides me, you and Damdred nobody has made a real case. This is one of the things really off about Koshi cause he usually does instead of just constantly slapping reads and streams of consciousness that often sound insane into the thread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 12:05 GMT
#2459
On April 13 2015 20:22 Koshi wrote:
So the case Vivax made on Yamato isn't worth lynching yamato or townreading Vivax?


You ask a question you didn't answer.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 14:28 GMT
#2473
I really hate repeating myself, but if you look at yamato's big post you will notice that most of what he does is scumread or townread people FOR THEIR READS. He doesn't do that as town, he doesn't go scrub mode like that.

"This guy's reads are good, town"
"This guy's reads are bad, scum"
"Vivax has a post with good reads then decides to do a bad read, null"

Not all of what he talked about obviously but imo most of it.

It's a scummy pattern.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 14:38 GMT
#2475
On April 13 2015 23:37 Koshi wrote:
Vivax. Nothing changes now Eden is town right? Because you somehow said yamato was mafia because of his read on Eden. Or something like that.


That was one of the reasons, it wasn't THE reason. EVEN AFTER YOU SAID THAT THE EXACT DAY I TOLD YOU ALL OTHER REASONS, AND NOW YOU SAY IT AGAIN??????
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#2476
You aren't even reading filters bitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 14:41 GMT
#2477
Like alone the fact he mentions 100 scummy things about Eden and then says "meh but he's probably town" makes no sense regardless of Eden's alignment.

And does the same with GB but says "DR is chainsaw defending him, so GB must be town"

WHAT?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 14:41 GMT
#2478
Look at the fucking post and explain why it's townie.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 14:46 GMT
#2480
On April 13 2015 23:43 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax, who is the other mafia if I'm mafia?


I don't fucking care ! Today you have all my attention. Your reads are scummy shit and your first 5 pages of a total of 6 are D1/N1. Afterwards you basically stopped playing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 15:39 GMT
#2483
Afterwards I want to lynch Koshi. This isn't a tunnel it's just nitpicking that never attempts to get me lynched. Town Koshi would have be trying to move the thread like crazy to get me lynched but all he does is ask me his shitty questions and never post decent reads. He says I say dumb shit and then doesn't provide example. Just overall half-assed, annoying play and the time he seemed to try hard he was only like "Damdred remember Storm mafia" which wasn't anything alike cause that was a game where I afkd after D1. In this game I'm all over the place and post regularly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 15:46 GMT
#2485
Yamato why did you stop playing so abruptly?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#2498
On April 14 2015 00:56 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax, I'm open to the idea that you've confirmation biased your way to scumreading me so poorly and I'm willing to bury the hatchet.

I think it's Koshi/Ritoky.

Both of them had strong townreads on me D1 yet both managed to "scumread" me on D2 and Ritoky even voted for me and left it there. Plus, both have had marked dropoffs in activity/productivity since D1, and both seem to be playing the same sort of sideline style game where they tend to sheep thread sentiment onto lynches instead of pushing their own reads with any strength.

It's almost never Palmar/Obi/Damdred. All three of them scumread GB when it wasn't convenient for mafia to do so and/or were the target of GB's ridiculous mafia tunnel. I've thought Palmar was town since early D1 and there's no reason for me to re-evaluate that read now with his un-cc'd vig claim. Obi I've had as legitimately possible mafia but the way the lynch went down yesterday basically confirms him as town, I don't really see an alternate world where he's actually mafia and they made some stupid play instead of just lynching me. Damdred was meh-ish on D1 but really picked it up D2 from what I could tell and was instrumental in getting the GB lynch through. If I doubt any of the three going forward it's Damdred, though.

I'll do some more digging on Koshi/Ritoky today in between fulfilling some of my other obligations.


I'll reevaluate when you decide exactly who of the two to lynch cause this way it's too easy to hide a scum in there and just flipflop it all the way through deadline.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#2499
Inb4 it's Palmar/Damdred
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 19:14 GMT
#2528
On April 11 2015 21:05 Koshi wrote:
-snipped-

At least I got some company from yamato:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia
If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them.
Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.

So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water

Worst post in the thread award goes to GB for this pile of scummy shit.


Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 05:23 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 05:10 DreadReturn wrote:
On April 08 2015 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia
If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them.
Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.

So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water

Worst post in the thread award goes to GB for this pile of scummy shit.

Could you please explain how this post is alignment indicative?

It is both a horrible straw man and a pathetic attempt at defending oneself from accusations.

Your post on Palmar's post is also pretty bad. GJ.



page 23 is where Eden posts his big read post. Perfect timing from him because he was indeed getting flak. This bought him a lot of time.

Page 25 got these 3 posts I don't like, I also want to add that GB is so town it hurts my fucking soul. How the fuck did we miss that???? Fuck that. Rsoultin was the only one reading this game correctly during the entire game and mafia knew it. So mafia is paying fucking attention. Anyway, the 3 posts:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 10:30 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.

I think both of you are scum


Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 11:06 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:30 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.

I think both of you are scum


For shitty reasoning.
You don't even try to push me to further analyse my alignment, you just come to the thread, say people are bad or that they are scum, then go back to your cover

Palmar did plenty


Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 09:59 ritoky wrote:
don't lynch the following people without a really good reason:
yamato77
damdred
holyflare
koshi

that is all

[image loading]

yamato keeps pushing mafia agenda. ritoky his reads are a bit off. I don't think those names are really the townies in this game lol. However, I don't know if it makes ritoky mafia. yamato on the other hand...


How was yamato pushing mafia agenda?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 19:15 GMT
#2529
You ignored all the posts where he talked about Eden there
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 13 2015 19:17 GMT
#2532
yamato77
damdred MOST LIKELY TOWN, YOU ARENT SCUMREADING HIM
holyflare FLIPPED GREEN
koshi YOU ARENT TOWN?



yamato keeps pushing mafia agenda. ritoky his reads are a bit off. I don't think those names are really the townies in this game lol. However, I don't know if it makes ritoky mafia
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