Newbie Student Mafia VII

On April 10 2015 05:12 Onegu wrote:



Why is this a question?

On April 10 2015 06:13 Half the Sky wrote:


Are you new to TL (mafia) too? Welcome either way.

On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

On April 10 2015 06:16 Half the Sky wrote:


Did LightningStrike bring you over here? I know he plays/played that format a bit.

On April 10 2015 06:22 Half the Sky wrote:


Ah, then, let me ask this question, how scummy are you?

On April 10 2015 06:26 Half the Sky wrote:


We've barely started D1 and you're already thinking about dying?

On April 10 2015 06:27 prplhz wrote:

how do cops and vigis work in sc2 arcade mafia`?

On April 10 2015 06:27 Half the Sky wrote:


Why do I get the sense you are tempting me to explore the depths of your foul mind?

On April 10 2015 06:33 prplhz wrote:

and how exactly will that help you not dying?

On April 10 2015 06:32 Half the Sky wrote:


Well generally speaking my mind isn't in the gutter...

I just figured yours was

Typical men

(And yes, rsoultin and I are two of the ladies here on TL.)

On April 10 2015 06:33 prplhz wrote:
(by the way, i'm not entirely sure i understand what you're saying but i really don't think that's how vigilantes and cops work here)

On April 10 2015 06:39 prplhz wrote:

okay but you're talking about cop and vigi, right? you're saying "i hope cop and vigi are good because i don't want to die" and i'm asking you, how exactly can these two roles help you not to die?

On April 10 2015 06:46 plotspot wrote:


You're afraid of dying. Ok you're confirmed town. LOL OH WAIT. You maybe MAFIA.^^

On April 10 2015 07:26 prplhz wrote:

you can't edit your posts ever and if host finds out you did you're going to be in a lot of trouble

double post, tripple post, post 20 times in a row

never edit your posts

On April 10 2015 07:48 Soren333 wrote:

What the bloody hell does this mean?

On April 10 2015 07:54 Soren333 wrote:

What has cop got to do with you dieing?

What has vig got to do with you dieing?

Are you baiting the vig to not kill you? What the hell?

On April 10 2015 07:55 Soren333 wrote:

What do you mean by scout for activity?

On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote:


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?

On April 10 2015 08:06 Soren333 wrote:

Are you really hinting your role to me.

On April 10 2015 08:15 Soren333 wrote:

Digging up old things? Judging from your second sentence I can safely assume that you're implicitly implying that me digging old things is bad? Why is it bad?

Why let past be past?

First of, I wouldn't call them old things. Game started and I haven't posted till now, therefore I shall offer my thoughts as I play the catch up game.

And secondly, let past be past means you're just going to ignore everything that everyone has already said. In that case, how will you evaulaute someone's actions and words and determine if they are scum or not?

On April 10 2015 16:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Looks like I have to bit explain myself. After reading this I think my posts make more sense.


This is not sc2 arcade mafia.

I thought day 1 is just day for chat. Nothing happens before somebody brings evidency to table.

On April 10 2015 06:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

I dont want to tell you my dirty secrets

On April 10 2015 07:51 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

Come visit me and I'll show you

On April 10 2015 23:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Bloody Dwarf, when you return I have a question for you. I read and saw your explanation which in of itself is fine and dandy. Can you explain why you told Soren (and others) not once but three times why he/they needed to stop digging up or digging through old things?

On April 10 2015 18:54 Bourneq wrote:
Good morning!

Dwarf I am interested in how you did not know what scum means. It is meantioned twice in the OP and twice in the followup post right after. Seeing how you missed the part about editing it makes a bit more sense since you obviously did not read the thing. But under coaches for example it says
Town:
Scum:
It is pretty hard to missunderstand what scum in this context means. As a fellow newbie I understand you could be speaking the truth but did you really not read the OP?

On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote:
So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias.

I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems.

He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that.

Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all.

If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day.

He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks.

Holy shit this is an amazing play. My tinfoils may sound crazy and stupid but holy shit in the 3 games I've finished I nailed at least 2 scum each time. Both were the strong mafia guys (Holyflare and Geript from Carol and Joat).

What other scenario explains how TheBloodyDwarf is playing? The more I think about this the more I believe. Where are the holes in my thinking?

On April 11 2015 20:02 prplhz wrote:
you can post gifs on tlmafia

On April 11 2015 20:44 Soren333 wrote:

First off, what are you on about with the word in your mouth. I have no idea what point you're trying to make there.

Secondly, why is it so weird to respond to old messages? And does the weirdness of that warrant a town/scum read?

I can see why it's weird on whatsapp because you're replying to an old conversation and since you've become accustomed to it, that custom also transfers here. But this is a mafia game where you're suppose to go back and look over what people have said already. I don't see you finding it weird when players read other player's filter.

On April 11 2015 18:34 Tubesock wrote:
The cop check request:



Another possible softing to cop check:



And another:



This is more interesting. And really instigated my tinfoil. And what I REALLY need feedback on due to my overthinking at times.



He leaves out doc and vet. This seems to me to be the soft claim. It's retarded I know, but I think the spelling "guud" is absolutely intentional. And:



Maybe overthinking, but damn..."mindgames", "guud". Like it's in the weird obvious but not obvious realm. I think he's mindfucking us. He's goddamn Godfather.



Like he really really wants that cop check to bring his "evidence" to the table. Like holy shit. Plus, he has done absolutely ZERO scumhunting. He's overtly and covertly trying to get the cop check. That's his entire goal so far.

On April 11 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote:
O.o

Tube moving up lol but dude i think you may be high on something xP not a huge fan of narratives anyway. yours at least had me laughing?

dwarf could you please give reads? even if you like arent sure on any of them?

prp read is in part knowing him but mostly the nature of his posts. hes aggressive, has made some sharp comments/observations, and his reads adapt to what is going on in the thread rather than remaining static lol

you...returning to prp scumread after its poinyed out that you seemed to drop it, plus some of those posts that are pure commentary...id be happy to lynch you today >< what do you think about that?

On April 12 2015 02:22 Tubesock wrote:


And now you mock and troll me.

Why ? Why not a normal or . I could definitely have used a (chill out mang) or even a . You went with the . Shiny glitzy white teeth big smile. No one has shiny white teeth like that without artificial treatment. How the fuck can I see that and not think you are taunting me?

the mindfucking. I concede you're not making a crazy assed play. At least how I lined it out. But damn I just can't shake you're 100% mafia. I need to relax and take a break. I'll probably be back an hour or so before deadline.

On April 12 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
8km and i'm 90% dead i have no idea how people run half marathons

On April 12 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Prp when you lost interest in plot why didn't you bring up bourne again?

Also dwarf can you explain to me your vote switches back and forth between stutters and plot.

On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.

On April 11 2015 23:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

I dont find anybody really suspicious..

Stutters695. Checking his filter and I mostly see questions. Looks like he doesn't really have own opinion but is asking others what do they think.

btw, I dont like you Tubesock, you have been chasing me from the beginning

On April 13 2015 04:32 Tubesock wrote:


End of Night

On April 13 2015 05:09 Tubesock wrote:


haha, I'm sure I can find something. Other than you are in fact hilarious.

You still haven't done a single thing to help town...When does arcade mafia start gaining information? Like when do those games really start?

On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
I'm sad now

On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:


it lives! xP

dwarf, you got anything for me? i want to know what you thiiiink

who is scum?

who is town?

what do you think of my case and what do you think of stutters?

On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:


what do you think of my case

On April 14 2015 01:07 rsoultin wrote:

also lol if stutters dropped dead this second from a rare and crazy day 1 cancer bug who would you want to lynch?

On April 14 2015 01:23 Trfel wrote:
You probably shouldn't mention coaching in this thread, as doing so is against the rules.

11. You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach.

Q: I want to talk about coaching, or have a question about coaching. Where should I ask this?
A: PM me. Do not post in the thread about coaching.

On April 14 2015 01:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

But I hate how there is replacements coming in. Holyflare didnt play long but how could you have readed him? Are those posts by Soren anymore valid? Same with Trfel. If they/one of them is mafia they like got 1 day and night advance where nobody can read them.

On April 14 2015 01:28 The Shining wrote:


Ok I'm back in thread.

Bro am I high or did you just claim scum??

Didn't you replace Onegu? O_O

On April 14 2015 01:32 Trfel wrote:
You can always read replacements based on the play of the player they replaced for, as they have the same role...

On April 14 2015 14:00 Trfel wrote:

His late vote without explanation pushed him from null to scum lean.

On April 14 2015 15:50 prplhz wrote:

stop being useless?

On April 15 2015 05:23 Trfel wrote:
What's happening?

On April 15 2015 03:59 Tubesock wrote:
Those of you voting The Shining, I'd like to point out that Dwarf has also implied he'd start playing and hasn't. SC2 Arcade games start Day 2 (although he did also say "really Day 3").

At least Shining has done something.

On April 15 2015 05:46 Tubesock wrote:
Dwarf has done nothing but scummy things. He's provided nothing but excuses all game. His last post he appeals to our emotions to try to keep himself alive. HE'S STILL NOT OFFERED ANY THOUGHTS. It's fine he doesn't have scumreads but he has 1 that's spelled ONE townread and that is me where in the same post he tinfoiled me.

Have you not considered his mates are waiting for his wagon to really start before they vote him? How about since he's new AND under heavy scrutiny his mates adviced him to clam up and not say anything to AVOID OUTING THEM????

On April 14 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

My top town pick would be Tubesock. He is going way over the top hunting me so he is not likely to be mafia. Am I some kind of threat to mafia? I haven't done almost anything.

Except...
Tinfoil hat mode online
He is doing this on purpose. He makes himself look like town with this but in reality he is part of the mafia. That's thing to remember. Also, I think HtS said she has played before with Tubesock and saw his tinfoil hat theories. If Tubesock was town that time and now he is mafia, its great way to do again that to act like town

My top scum/(most likely to be) is Stutters695.
My earlier post is still valid. I just find him suspicious.