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On April 12 2015 01:28 jarjarbinks wrote: ....using logic....lol soooo if prp, bresh and me are her top town reads....that means.... MY MANFEELINGS! <3? that's mostly why i wanted to catch you lol >> i wasn't saying you're dumb i proooomise you did fool me last time though xP good to see you're not using a statistical model without a control this game lol | ||
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On April 13 2015 07:54 jarjarbinks wrote: Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF. Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of 1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy 2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything 3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far #2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?) this post was interesting to me have you looked into who you think is scum given the second option yet? | ||
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On April 13 2015 13:40 jarjarbinks wrote: lolz ya I was scumreading her in that post...lol i'm confused as to how HTS missed the rationale behind tube's change as well. I mean it wasn't a solid case for a change, but it was clearly there in his filter around his vote. He shows more rationale for his change than HTS did for hers. Altho I definite missed things on pretty much everything I said last night...lol honestly i kind of got the impression you were half-drunk making some of those posts >> were you out drinking? xP did you notice something else or just like my case? | ||
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On April 13 2015 13:51 jarjarbinks wrote: I started it, im super behind on my reads sheet so I tried to go with whoever it appeared were each persons top 3 scum. It has a lot of issues with is but in general there were some people who weren't being scummed much and some people who were being towned a ton. People who weren't on top town or top scum the most: Onegu HTS JJB Tube People who were top 3 town most: Prp Tube Bresh JJB Granted, this analysis has flaws. And note I AM ON BOTH, so if anything it I'm showing that I am not altering the analysis AT ALL. I think if I had my reads stuff updated this would be better, and there was a few people that it was hard to tell who their top scum/town were while others it was easier to ascertain. mmm so...uhhh like what is the significance of this? o.0 sorry lol it's probably obvious but getting late | ||
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i don't know what your lists mean or what conclusion you've drawn from them, is what i'm trying to say yo tube what about my case on hts? | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:06 Breshke wrote: hey sorry for dissapearing had to go out and phone wouldn't connect to the internet. Ive only speedread the last pages but i still disagree with you on HTS . First of all people have been saying that HTS would swap to stuters there to make herself look better. Obviously this isn't true because noone is saying she looks good because of it. Also she was one of the eladers on the plot lynch and in most of my games the people leading the D1 lynches look good no matter the flip. I think as scum HTS would be way more cautious about swapping her vote there. I also didn't really understand the bit about you saying she called plot town? Idk that isn't how i remember it i thought she thought they were both scum but then voted stutters because she didn't think stutters would bus so using pre flip association decided stutters would be better. If im wrong tell me. Also this is ahrd to explain but once again when i woke up came into the thread it really only seemed HTS was trying to get me to look at stutters and change my vote i didn't really get that feeling from anyone else. It may read differently but thats how it was. Also rso how does it make you feel that people are interacting with you yet dont really seem to read you. It is quite odd. yeah i got that mixed up? obviously it doesn't make sense if hts was townreading plot; i meant to say scumreading. that's already been addressed i'd rather you actually read my case rather than speedread it frankly xP since i've already addressed pretty much everything you're talking about here frankly i don't know why she changed her vote. the main point is that she completely uselessly changed her vote. she literally did it at a point where it was meaningless. a scum motivation for that is to distance herself from the list, but more importantly i see no town motivation for it at all? nor do i see how her simply answering your question while not committing to the vote one way or another her trying to get you to change your vote did you reread that section or not? -_- as for people interacting with me and not reading me, i'm not sure what you're implying? | ||
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blah anyway are you referring to specific people or in general on the reads bit? i've been read at null and town by several people, onegu had me scumread and you've been...well for lack of a better word, soft-pushing me off and on so i don't really see how i'm not being "read"? am i misunderstanding something? | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:13 Breshke wrote: I also don't understand how she looks good for voting a town in a town v town vote thingo. for not mislynching plot...pretty sure i already clarified that too breshke -_- | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:15 jarjarbinks wrote: I was saying that if mafia could have been comfortable enough in the game to not need to lynch anyone specifically. Those lists show the people that are least noticed or most townread, hence "not being threatened" before the NK ah okay gotcha | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:14 rsoultin wrote: for not mislynching plot...pretty sure i already clarified that too breshke -_- okay maybe i wasn't being clear lol >< the point was that even if stutters was town, not being on a wagon that flips town makes her look better at the moment i mean, you argue that she doesn't look better, but since no one brought it up before me and you've been arguing with me it clearly didn't make her look bad the salient point is that her vote was useless, and if she's town suddenly deciding plot is town and stutters is scum, why is she not pushing for others to switch with her, even in the last two minutes? am i making sense now? | ||
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On April 12 2015 05:56 Half the Sky wrote: Breshke - look at Stutters filter. I haven't switched yet. One page. Mostly asking questions. He's stopping short of conclusions. He also voted plotspot and prplhz thinks that plotspot is martyring. I don't like either of plotspot or Stutters to be honest. But I can only vote one. lol like can you honestly tell me breshke that this looks like she is trying to encourage you to vote stutters over plot? | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:23 Breshke wrote: This is the bit i have a problem with. Did she decide that plot was town? I was under the belief she thought both were scum but thought stutters had more chance of flipping scum because she didnt think he would bus a partner in plot. Basically i thought she was making a pre flip association. semantics breshke if she says that stutters prob won't buss then votes stutters she clearly decided that stutters was scum and plot was not besides which she already said so herself afterwards xP please just read my interaction with her >< i didn't vote her right away; i did actually talk to her first | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:25 Breshke wrote: Also i kind of want to vote stutters until he explains why we would all understand he was town on D2 because there's no point pretending he didn't say that. cool by me ^^ i'm curious, too care to answer my what the hell were you getting at with the no one is reading me question anytime soon, bresh? | ||
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On April 13 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote: Not gonna lie i thought you were going to bed so i tried to get something out quickly so you'd stay around. I feel saying her uselessly changing her vote is almost unfair though. You could say not changing her vote would have been useless aswell because the masses had either decided to stay on plot or were not around. I just dont think that you can look at it as she changed her vote to distance herself from that list when she was stills cumreading plot and was one of his original pushers. I also think if she was so worried about being on that list that she tries to distance from it ealier since that would look better and she wouldn't make a case on plot right before switching. Also does this mean you think a majority of the scum were on the plot wagon? Not implying anything really because it could go either way (scum ignoring you because they dont think your an easy misslynch or scum ignoring u cos your scum). I just realize that the main way i read you is how you interact with vets and push your reads and how emotional or whatever you get so obviously you can understand why im having a hard time of it now. o.0 i don't know how i missed this post sorry lol >< i don't see how she can be scumreading plot, saying stutters probably isn't bussing, then vote stutters? that just doesn't make any sense? i'm not sure why me thinking her vote looks scummy translates to the majority of scum being on the plot wagon but i already said probably 1 or 2 were, but that's pure speculation? and yeah i get it lol i do act differently with vets...i kinda prefer letting them do their thing and commenting and only pushing the things i'm very certain of. these games i all too often feel the need to take the lead cause leadership is usually lacking :/ | ||
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On April 12 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote: Okay, let me phrase it differently. Take a look at the quote in totality, it's extremely awkwardly worded. 1 I point him out on the word "acceptable" 2 His quoted part of the sentence (which I've bolded) he is saying others are finding it acceptable but he's not so sure (not nailingly sure for me) 3 In his prior post, he said that Dwarf was a victim, but then by saying "he has to justify himself.....that's also because he hasn't posted a lot, right" he's already answered his own concern in #2 "not nailingly sure for me." Of course when I go back here at how he said these things originally and esp how his wording has "evolved" on Dwarf, and I feel like he's trying to get around this read/conclusion in a wishy washy way. It's quite scumlike behaviour to me. was this what you were referring to when you said hts was pushing plotspot, breshke? | ||
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meh i have to reread everything in context i think. i just really do not understand how a townie with no knowledge of the alignment of either wagon sits there and argues that plotspot is scum then changes her mind last minute and switches without pushing others to switch while saying stutters probably didn't buss i could be tunneled, admittedly, but my biggest problem is both the timing and the fact that she didn't push something she apparently felt strongly enough about to change her vote anyway i'm getting kinda tired @.@ onegu is scumreading me for things that i think were only in the beginning of my filter...others have given reads on me, while most of the newbies haven't but if you haven't noticed most of the newbies don't have many reads xP so honestly i'm not sure how significant it is? | ||
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the distancing bit really isn't that important, especially not even knowing stutters' alignment | ||
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On April 13 2015 23:29 Trfel wrote: Hello. I haven't read any of the game yet, just enough to know that there was a mislynch on Day 1 and then Holyflare was night killed. Do I need to start doing things immediately, or can I take the time to read the thread (or at least part of it)? lol o.0 what a strange question truffle how do you expect to do things if you don't read the thread? -shoos- come back when you have something case-builder xP | ||
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tube, dude, i agree with bresh actually, lol, don't really see why she can't think that people are generally bussing more often but still come to the conclusion that in this case stutters is not? like if she's scum obviously the idea is contrived and gives her a reason to jump off plot's wagon, but it doesn't make her scum on it's own | ||
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