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On April 12 2015 06:04 Onegu wrote: Thoughts we had do another hour hrmm We corrected you twice on that now. | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:04 Breshke wrote: Sorry HTS my alarm didnt go off so i was still im bed on ohone so it was hard to consider stuff. I keep forgetting it's 6am there or 7 or something. | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:07 Onegu wrote: I may or may not be on strong painless currently. Rsoul scum bang bang You think she afked the vote when vote sentiment was solidly on plotspot? She was active in thread whilst I was fast asleep or on the way to my race so I have to look into her and what she was doing/saying at that time. | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:11 Tubesock wrote: Plot did claim scum. And literally had 2 posts that were town. Meh. Well I struggled with that until I saw the gap in time that Stutters said he'd analyse plot and then he just voted him 15h later. And that plus the rest of his filter plus him unlikely to be bussing D1 made it more likely that something was off. His vote onto plotspot came when vote sentiment was well on plotspot right? On April 12 2015 06:01 LoneMeow wrote: Final vote count: TheBloodyDwarf (1): Breshke (0): The Shining (1): plotspot Bourneq (0): plotspot (7): prplhz (0): Stutters695 (4): prplhz, Tubesock, TheBloodyDwarf, Half the Sky There were 5 votes on plotspot (not sure about Onegu, I know prp had switched only just now), at least 5 votes, so it's safe to say that sentiment was that way. A safe vote to hide within the masses as a scummer. Not many people around at EoD tonight either. That worries me a bit. | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:29 prplhz wrote: one of my friends ran a marathon and i was like "how did you train for that?" and he said "well i ran 18km two days before just to make sure i could do it" and i was like "and up to that?" "nothing really but once you decide to run a marathon you don't just stop" people baffles me Eh that's not even close to how one should be training, if that's how he did it, well that jump from 18 to 42km is quite dangerous on the body. It takes 8-12 weeks depending on experience to train for a half, and 12-18 for a full again depending on experience. I also block extra weeks in there in the event of injury or life going insane on me. Back on topic though... | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:48 Soren333 wrote: lol he was town That's quite the reaction there. Any thoughts on EoD? | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:38 prplhz wrote: rso already said before the game that she wasn't going to be available all of d1 because she was going to a gas station with LS or something. Bah you're right. I stand corrected. | ||
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Reading the last few comments there are a few things that need clarified. 1 Vote change happened very close to EoD with not much time to deliberate. I think I voted with 2 minutes left. Not much time to convey "enthusiasm" aside from what went into my vote. I weighed heavily whether I should switch. 2 Back of my mind, there were too many people on plotspot. That had me antsy. The fact that there weren't many people around, before I realised it was a Saturday night, made me wonder if people had afked the vote. I know the pile on happened when I was asleep. 3 This point is for Rasputin. The 15h point that I made against Stutters was not because it was 15h between posts that he voted. The 15 hours point was used to justify that Stutters was unlikely to have been deliberating his vote on plotspot and that the vote came out of the blue. prplhz said that his vote came out of the blue and scumread him for that IIRC. I questioned that asking why he was eliminating the possibility that a scumclaim could have made his life easier in the middle of deliberation. Only when I further looked closely at Stutters' filter, did I notice the 15 hour gap. He said he'd look into plot. Then gap. Then boom. "Scumclaim, voted" (paraphrasing) Are you following my logic? | ||
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On April 12 2015 04:45 prplhz wrote: it just seems to easy to go in here and quote every other post and say "wtf" big text wall on me saying nothing and then jumping on plotspot same with stutters, don't like the way he's going on plotspot. says he wants to make a post, then doesn't and just half arsedly bandwagons. but i don't really know if i can lynch plotspot. he is around and he is sort of defending himself in his own way but again it's a super bad way. it's like he's super mad at town for getting lynched (keeps saying he hopes scum wins) even when given outs (me and rso both said he should defend himself and that it's not over yet). this dumb stubborness just seems more likely to come from town than scum. i also don't think my original points hold up about how he wanted the threads approval for changing his vote and then when i push him to change to bourneq he refuses. whatever he's thinking he's certainly not thinking "i need to change this dumb alphabetical vote". now he also just said "i just noticed in my filter that it's impossible to see what i'm talking about when i don't quote people", looks like he's going over his own filter and sees townie things but he's just resigned and doesn't want to explain them so he's just taking "i need to quote posts or nobody knows what i'm talking about" with him to next game. like it seems like he thinks he's town, he thinks he can show he is town, but he doesn't give a fuck. On April 12 2015 05:13 prplhz wrote: it's just like stutters has not exactly been noticable this game. then he comes in here, sees people are looking at plot, says "gonna look at plot and write something" and then he just votes him for claiming scum. seems exceedingly lazy and uninterested. no i don't think that looks natural, it looks like he's thinking "guess i'll vote for the current bandwagon for whatever reason i can find in his latest post". some people are all "he's martyring, lynch him!" but that's just bad play. dunno if it's how stutters play and i'm not going to check his database entry for any fervent anti-martyrism. Also besides the votes was the realisation that after I looked through Stutters and agreed that I didn't like what I saw from him for D1, I was scumreading BOTH Stutters and plotspot, and that Stutters had voted plotspot. That's when the question of him bussing plotspot (which I know I mentioned somewhere) and the likeliness of both of them being scum popped up. Was it a snap decision? Yes. I can understand why the lack of reflection might be troubling, but it was in those last few minutes a lightbulb popped in my head. | ||
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On April 13 2015 10:05 prplhz wrote: well i do see some lack of enthusiasm as well. i was hoping that you'd do something for the lynch after i went for a run but you just sat around and then voted 2 mins before deadline. breshke had shown up and said "no" at that point so plotspot was pretty dead, don't know why you waited for that before changing your vote. Not many people around. Bourneq already said he wasn't switching. Neither was Breshke. | ||
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On April 12 2015 05:52 Bourneq wrote: Plot still seems like the obvious lynch to me. Stutters is certinatly a suspect but I see no reason in keeping plot around. | ||
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On April 12 2015 06:01 LoneMeow wrote: Final vote count: TheBloodyDwarf (1): Breshke (0): The Shining (1): plotspot Bourneq (0): plotspot (7): prplhz (0): Stutters695 (4): prplhz, Tubesock, TheBloodyDwarf, Half the Sky I'm trying to consider all worlds here. Do note that I have not taken a good look at either of Shining or JJB's filters yet. Possible scum votes: 1 Ace/Shining - an isolated vote, general rule of thumb 2 Likely two votes on the plotspot wagon 3 Likely one vote on the Stutters wagon For #2 I'm thinking one or both votes had to have come late in the game when people thought plotspot was likely to be lynched. This reinforces the possibility of Stutters being a guilty party or Bourneq. I need to take a closer look at their timestamps and what they were saying/thinking at the time they voted. Also didn't see much reaction from Bourneq at all post-lynch. The only other person I will admit I have not taken a closer look at is JJB, largely because I haven't been able to interact with him all game. For #3 I'm thinking back to my Godfather game as to who in this group wants to look good counterwagoning if there was any such player. prplhz had the martyring argument, and Tube had his reasoning that he seemed to genuinely believe in. If I had to pick a scum in this wagon, I'd say Dwarf. When I see this: On April 13 2015 04:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Well, there is no way to prove this but since this post I decided to vote for Stutter Before this I was going to vote for Ace. Last time I checked thread was ~21:00 and went to play heroes  I was checking clock after games but I still almost forgot to vote  Why I didnt vote before 21:00? I wanted to see if anything new comes up. Particularly the timestamp he realised it, compared to prplhz, it makes him all the more likely to be the scum. Furthermore, whilst he might be newb, he could very be newb scum, which is what I'm starting to feel after looking through his filter. A lot of emphasis on how he's used to SC2 mafia play. At least that's the impression I'm getting. | ||
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On April 13 2015 10:15 prplhz wrote: meh i totally agree and that's why i poked it. why change 2 mins before deadline. it has no practical effect so it's something you do just to look different and townies don't care about that. On April 13 2015 10:20 prplhz wrote: anyway it's not that simple because townies change votes at last minute too. but this time it just had zero purpose, she agrees to that herself. Which means, based on your previous quote I should be town right? I put my thought process out there, and I didn't care about looking good. If I'd wanted to look good, I would have stayed on plotspot with all the rest of the votes on him, but I still kept considering all possibilities. Also for Rasputin, this isn't the first time I've deliberated things like this between two people and voted town. I know I was third party in JOAT, but this follows the same premise. Deliberated like crazy, looked through filters between the two vote candidates (Sandroba and SL in that case) and ultimately voted on town. Just saying. | ||
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On April 13 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote: what's really bugging me, hts, is both of those posts from prp came before your long post on why you thought plot was town and you further go on to say that you think both look scummy with four minutes left? i find it hard to believe that those posts from prp convinced you >< then there's this post: which honestly is the only reason i'm not voting you right this second, given your explanation just now actually makes this post make more sense than how i was reading it, cause otherwise i don't know how you come to the conclusion that stutters is not bussing and then vote him the problem is, hts, your explanation is completely after-the-fact and not really supported by your posting except this very last one where do you stand on stutters now? First, that long post, I didn't conclude plotspot was town. I said I didn't understand how it wasn't a mafia agenda. I concluded he was mafia. After the fact, yes, but again, supports the fact I'm thinking hard about both candidates. The issue I had with plot concerned his wording which required more explanation. The arguments on Stutters were quite the opposite in some regards, lack of content, and points brought up by others. The questions coming to lack of a conclusion on certain players and Stutters's vote on plotspot, that last element which made me think twice about everything. If there was more time I'd have tried pushing the issue. I did try to push Breshke, so the point about me doing nothing (at prplhz) doesn't really hold either. On April 12 2015 05:56 Half the Sky wrote: Breshke - look at Stutters filter. I haven't switched yet. One page. Mostly asking questions. He's stopping short of conclusions. He also voted plotspot and prplhz thinks that plotspot is martyring. I don't like either of plotspot or Stutters to be honest. But I can only vote one. On April 12 2015 05:57 Breshke wrote: Idk like i remember stutters making a read in me then trying to get ppl who townread me to talk about it. Seemed townie i probs wont swap. | ||
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explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....
