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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:03 GMT
#1766
I figured that Half the Sky would die.

But why would the vigilante possibly save their shot? And why would they ever shoot Stutters695?

Newbie games are loaded with vigilante targets. Bourneq was far and away the best candidate.

Well, we're now at MYLO. I don't even know if we're allowed to mislynch?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:05 GMT
#1767
Oh, good, we are allowed to do that. That's definitely the way to go.

##vote no lynch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:06 GMT
#1768
Seriously though, this is quite awful. I really don't see winning this game from here at all.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:07 GMT
#1769
On April 16 2015 06:03 Trfel wrote:
I figured that Half the Sky would die.

But why would the vigilante possibly save their shot? And why would they ever shoot Stutters695?

Newbie games are loaded with vigilante targets. Bourneq was far and away the best candidate.

Well, we're now at MYLO. I don't even know if we're allowed to mislynch no-lynch?
EBWOP: Corrected typo. Sorry.

I'll be out for a while.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:09 GMT
#1770
I'm not sure if the vigilante should claim or not. Assuming that town no-lynches, I actually think that the vigilante should not claim. If the vigilante does claim, they become an easy night kill. But I'm really not sure, since I don't know the situation. Just, think carefully about your actions and use whatever resources you might have at your disposal.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:32 GMT
#1772
I guess, part of me is tempted to just go ahead and lynch today now.

Don't get me wrong, no lynch is definitely the best play. But lynching feels like it will just speed things up, and I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make. We're kind of dead either way.

I can go with whatever people want to do.

I also retract my super strong townread on Breshke now.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:42 GMT
#1777
On April 16 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
nh :/

why the retraction, truffle, out of curiosity? (not saying i disagree >< lol)
I just eventually realized that I don't think that no lynching has that big of an effect on our chances of winning.

It gives scum an extra night kill, but they'll just kill our towniest player. And at this point, we kind of need to start assuming that our somewhat towny people are town, since we can't afford to be paranoid about everyone (unless you have a ton of time on your hands, in which case by all means go ahead). I think that the main value of no lynching is to get extra time to solve the game. This helps me quite a bit, since I have a bunch of work to do over the next day (real time), but I'm not sure if it would help enough to warrant dragging the game out for three extra days (real time).

It's basically up to everyone else. If they want to play the game and scumhunt, no lynching is the best play. If people are kind of done, I'm fine to just lynch and end it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 21:50 GMT
#1780
On April 16 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes at truffle- i was asking about your bresh read?
Whoops.

Not a topic for this time, sorry.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#1783
On April 16 2015 06:58 Bourneq wrote:
A no lynch could make sense. But I think our case against prplhz is absolutely lynch worthy. He has pushed both hts and stutters but not got his way. Now they are dead. He defended dwarf most likely to get some town cred to his name after we surely lynch him. He has pushed a lynch on me since I got of on a bad footing and is the newbie that would be easy to be made to look bad. I don't concider his reads or most of his posts to have been helpfull to town at all. He also wasted his vote D2. Not to mention all the other reads against him like the one hts did. I feel very confident in lynching prplhz.
To be honest, at the moment I'd rather lynch you than prplhz
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:01 GMT
#1784
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#1786
On April 16 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
lol what?
You know, I didn't believe him, but this reaction is extremely scummy. Maybe he really is on to something.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:04 GMT
#1789
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#1795
On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.
I don't know, to be honest I've sort of been assuming that rsoultin is town all game long. The reason being that it would take a lot of time and effort to try and lynch rsoultin, and I feel that her being mafia isn't terribly likely. And I'd only lynch her if I could be darn sure that I'm right.

Basically, I'm just putting it off. I'm a procrastinator.

I agree with you that rsoultin is capable of playing at a noticeably higher level than this. But I'm not convinced that this makes her scum.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:10 GMT
#1799
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:13 GMT
#1801
On April 16 2015 07:12 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?

Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes.
I guarantee you that the timing of a vote made barely over an hour after the day began will not have any effect on a potential tiebreak for the lynch.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#1805
On April 16 2015 07:17 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:12 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?

Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes.
I guarantee you that the timing of a vote made barely over an hour after the day began will not have any effect on a potential tiebreak for the lynch.

How come? Quoted from OP "If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch."
Concidering there is talk of not voting at all then there is quite the chance that it could matter.
A vote for a no lynch is still a vote.

If we do end up with a tie, which isn't terribly likely, then it will be the order of the last votes that matter, not the first.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 15 2015 22:56 GMT
#1818
Uh, rsoultin isn't known for her legacy posts. In fact, her legacy posts are among the worst I've seen XD

I'm kind of surprised at this sudden jump from Breshke. But I must head out now, I'll get back to this later in the day.

I will say, though, that if you intend to lynch rsoultin, you had better be darn sure that you are right, and be able to show why.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 16 2015 02:57 GMT
#1921
HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS AMAZING

I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 16 2015 02:59 GMT
#1922
On April 16 2015 11:57 Trfel wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS AMAZING

I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD
And before you ask, of course I'm joking.

The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is.

I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now.

##unvote

And if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 16 2015 03:08 GMT
#1926
On April 16 2015 12:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 11:59 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 11:57 Trfel wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS AMAZING

I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD
And before you ask, of course I'm joking.

The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is.

I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now.

##unvote

And if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim.


parrot :/
I'm well aware that you said it. I said it again. It's important enough that if there is a real vigilante and they don't trust you, then hopefully they trust me. Or vice versa, of course.

Oh, and as for those of you wondering about the night kill (Tubesock?), Half the Sky was the best night kill there. She was definitely playing better than rsoultin in this game, and was being very influential. Killing Half the Sky makes sense in terms of both skill and performance in this game. It doesn't necessarily mean that Half the Sky had incredible reads (though that is certainly a possibility).

It does suggest that there isn't another widely townread player with incredible reads, unless of course Half the Sky also had incredible reads. I just find it hard to believe that there is someone with amazing reads this game.

In short, I don't think the night kill gives us much information at all. Scum is just headhunting the best players (same with the Holyflare night kill), trying to choke town through lack of skill. And it seems to be working just fine.
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