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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#872
On April 12 2015 04:57 Bourneq wrote:
It would not get him any additional information but it would waste a cop check.


Right I get that, but I read that as if the cop would out right away or he indicated that so I wanted to make sure I wasn't going insane. I've played with Tube before and he's rolled off his tinfoil hat theories before and I'll admit I've had trouble understanding him in the past when he's explained hah.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:01 GMT
#873
On April 12 2015 05:00 prplhz wrote:
scratch that, it's in 1 hour. check the OP there's a countdown at the top.


My vote should be on plotspot, though I'm running through other filters to see if there's a better lynch than him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:02 GMT
#874
EBWOP - Thought I voted after I filter dove him. Whoops.

##vote plotspot
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:09 GMT
#877
On April 12 2015 01:46 plotspot wrote:
Lol I'm found out, why don't you all vote me? Then you don't have to discuss anymore why to vote anyone else. This might spare distrust within town.^^ Top readers here. Obviously I've made it look too easy. Too bad.^^


On April 12 2015 02:03 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote: plotspot

Generally if you're claiming scum you post a baby seal, but this works too I guess.


This post is for prplhz. You don't like Stutters for this jumping on plotspot. Do you think

1 he's naturally reacting to plot claiming scum
2 pretending to misinterpret his sarcasm

(Anyone else can answer this question too if they want.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:10 GMT
#879
On April 12 2015 05:02 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 02:29 plotspot wrote:
Ok it's not so important. ^^ means lie and no ^^ means truth. It's easy.


Uh. This is pretty late in the day. Has anyone done the decoder with Plot? What the what?

You guys should probably jump off Plot. This is I don't even know what this is. And the rest of his recent stuff.


My question to you Tube is if you don't understand what he's saying why don't you (attempt to) interpret it? Or respond to some of the things I said (and maybe others) on trying to interpret plotspot? You said you needed a "rosetta stone" device or something to understand him.

How do you know he's not playing dumb? I see too much crap from his end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:18 GMT
#884
On April 12 2015 05:10 Tubesock wrote:
Town will jump off. While the real vet/doc weigh to CC or not. Then town wants to lynch him but maybe his team will talk town into letting the cop check him that night and mafia sort him out. Just like -Celestial- in that game you and I were in where you were Godfather. Plus, I just read Guardians and am a bit in awe of Toadessterns play.

Anyway, I was thinking that mafia could convince the cop to check him and hopefully get a CC out of it. The cop would reveal his check and then mafia would know both blues.

Prp and Breshke pointed out how that's just insane.

But I'm still thinking Dwarf is mafia and the better lynch. Especially with the weirdness of whatever Plotspots is doing.


Alright, now I understand what you're saying.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:21 GMT
#885
On April 12 2015 05:13 prplhz wrote:
it's just like stutters has not exactly been noticable this game. then he comes in here, sees people are looking at plot, says "gonna look at plot and write something" and then he just votes him for claiming scum. seems exceedingly lazy and uninterested. no i don't think that looks natural, it looks like he's thinking "guess i'll vote for the current bandwagon for whatever reason i can find in his latest post".

some people are all "he's martyring, lynch him!" but that's just bad play. dunno if it's how stutters play and i'm not going to check his database entry for any fervent anti-martyrism.


I mean if someone claims scum, there's not a whole lot really to analyse there now, is there? I mean he could have tried to analyse him and then in the midst of analysis, plot could have just made his life easier. I mean why is that possibility out of the question?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:23 GMT
#888
On April 11 2015 15:44 rsoultin wrote:
Lol i actually have her as townish now...im kinda brain dumping as i go and only discussing things that stick out to me...my only issue with hts presently is i still dont feel like she explained her prp read going from null to scum...not sure if thats a language barrier though


Alright Ras, just saw this, I will get to this post-flip. Trying to sort out a few more things before EoD.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:27 GMT
#890
On April 12 2015 05:23 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't really try because I was trying to figure out why Dwarf is doing what Dwarf is doing. I don't think I'm a very good multitasker.

Plus, a lot of you were talking about him. So, I also reading through it, seeing you're putting in effort to do it. I concentrate on Dwarf, while you guys concentrate on others. I can see how critically thinking you are and then get two reads out of it. One for you (and others) and one for who the case is on.


I can't read you HTS. I thought you were so helpful to me in that game you were godfather. So, I know helpfullness isn't a town tell really. So now I'm on a different theory for town reads.

It's basically how much effort you put in. A mafia will put in work enough to avoid the lynch or to get some towncred. Then can relax a bit. Mafia isn't going to put in effort to solve the game though.

Long story, mostly I was thinking about Dwarf. But I also wasn't too worried about others since people were doing stuff. My current towns Breshke, Soren, Prp, Rso, Jar, and you if you were posting as a smurf or something.


Well that's (bolded) is pretty obvious. Even if you don't have thoughts on plot yourself, did you have any feedback on my thoughts on plot?

Also you've been fear reading me. I understand why. Last I recall before this post, you said I was towny, but you were afraid of me. But you can't read me?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:29 GMT
#891
On April 12 2015 05:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 04:59 prplhz wrote:
2 hours i believe



Ok feeling better will read the thread.


He corrected himself. It was one hour (and now 30m) at that time. 30m left.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:35 GMT
#893
Oh shit....just read Stutters' filter now, and I see where both Dwarf and prplhz are coming from.

His posts aren't exactly driving discussion.

Also I looked at the timestamps of when Stutters said he'll look into plotspot and when he voted him.

15 hours and change. So my previous possibility of "being in the middle of analysis" is off the table.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:37 GMT
#895
Dwarf is also right on the questions part, not many conclusions. There's plenty phrases where he'll stop short or give noncomittal answers. I also disagree with Stutters on Breshke.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:38 GMT
#897
On April 12 2015 05:37 prplhz wrote:
okay lets kill stutters then

##Unvote
##Vote Stutters695

i'm going for a run wont be back until after deadline


I could be down for shennaning on him but I'm still not feeling good about plotspot. I'll illustrate another case that irks me on plotspot.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:39 GMT
#898
Hosts: Can we please get an updated votecount? Cheers.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:39 GMT
#899
EBWOP - ignore that post, just saw it at the top of the page >_<

*slaps herself*

And prplhz, I hope you're a 3min/km runner so you can get back here before EoD
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#903
On April 11 2015 23:24 plotspot wrote:
Oh yeah why not. First of all people who are town and want to lynch me are overanalyzing my style of writing too much, since they have little experience with it. UNLESS you're mafia then you're of course playing the confused town, you're PLAYING the GAME. Congrats.

2nd I don't have any reads, as I think anyone is potentially suspicious and not at the same time. It's not certain enough for me to make any calls at the moment. Oh yeah is this suspicious? 50% of the people would think yes, 50% no. Yeah I'm calling the percentages.^^

Instead ask what other people think about you. From this thread I know that Half the Sky and Soren think I'm town. Many other people are unsure as to my aligment and a few people lean towards me as scum, but none are 100% sure I am scum.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:58 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:43 plotspot wrote:
Ok, now that the roles are out for everyone. How are we going to drag the opponents out of the shadows? Haven't read any suspicious things or anything that gives away anything. Poking with words in the shadows will really help?


Town read as this newbie is trying to learn how to scum hunt.


He will probably tell you now that he changed his opinion, due to progressed "interaction". Half the Sky provided some reasoning as to why she doesn't necessarily know that I'm town. But I'm not convinced. Based on the following post she thinks I think Onegu might be scum, although the reason I make this spontaneous post is because he was a disruptive element to the game by not paying attention, it doesn't matter what alignment he was.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.


Well we have 11 other users here. Would you all agree that this post is 100% indicative of me implying Onegu is scum? If not than it's a conclusion only reached by Half the Sky, no matter how well-phrased her explanations are that it comes from the post and not from some hidden knowledge. Anyway, if Half the Sky is town, you have to protect her to the very end, otherwise eliminate her now.


I agree with Rasputin that this post is awful. I'll point out what bothers me:

1 First paragraph - again sounds like dissausion, and funny that it comes after some of us forming reads based on his wording.

2 HATE that first sentence in second paragraph.

2nd I don't have any reads, as I think anyone is potentially suspicious and not at the same time.

Like that's an excuse to not make reads. Of course there's more than one way of scumhunting so I move to his next paragraph to see if what he says DOES make sense....

Instead ask what other people think about you. From this thread I know that Half the Sky and Soren think I'm town. Many other people are unsure as to my aligment and a few people lean towards me as scum, but none are 100% sure I am scum.

Using the word "instead" makes me think he's using this as a way to scumhunt, but where are the conclusions?

3 His followup on Soren.

He will probably tell you now that he changed his opinion, due to progressed "interaction". Half the Sky provided some reasoning as to why she doesn't necessarily know that I'm town. But I'm not convinced. Based on the following post she thinks I think Onegu might be scum, although the reason I make this spontaneous post is because he was a disruptive element to the game by not paying attention, it doesn't matter what alignment he was.

I disagree with this on many fronts. Reads SHOULD change if there's new evidence. Don't like it? Dispute it.
And Onegu was disruptive only to you - to me, I knew better, and others probably just ignored it. I know Rasputin said she was uncomforable with him but IIRC that was on different evidence.

I'm just smelling mafia agenda from this. And I don't know how it isn't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#908
On April 12 2015 05:46 Onegu wrote:
So we have a scum claim and you dummies don't want to lynch the shit out of him!?

Please tell me what I am missing? Or is it just that you guys are being bad.


prplhz for whatever reason isn't convinced. He had concerns on Stutters (which I sorta agree with, also along with Dwarf who said all he was doing was asking questions) and Soren (whom I still have to look into).

Stutters seemed like a reasonable lynch, one page filter which hasn't done much or driven things forward.

Ace/Shining is a policy lynch.

There are two votes on Stutters. There are 5 minutes left. Who else is around?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:56 GMT
#910
Breshke - look at Stutters filter. I haven't switched yet. One page. Mostly asking questions. He's stopping short of conclusions.

He also voted plotspot and prplhz thinks that plotspot is martyring.

I don't like either of plotspot or Stutters to be honest. But I can only vote one.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#914
Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game?

He's a veteran, but probably not.

##unvote
##vote stutters695

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 21:00 GMT
#915
On April 12 2015 05:57 Breshke wrote:
Idk like i remember stutters making a read in me then trying to get ppl who townread me to talk about it. Seemed townie i probs wont swap.


I realise there's practically no time to evaluate him now, but once prplhz and Dwarf drew attention to it, once I looked at the filter and the questions and the rest of what he had I'm just scratching my head. And that vote on plotspot, 15h afterwards, so he couldn't have been analysing him.

If I'm wrong I'm going to slap myself.
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