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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:40 GMT
#840
On April 12 2015 02:33 jarjarbinks wrote:
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On April 12 2015 02:20 plotspot wrote:
So I am "lynchable today", but you don't necessarily think I'm scum? Hey townsfolk, he is suspicious.^^
How do I make people think 100% that I'm scum, still trying to work this out.^^

Defense is bad right? yeah I know. I've given up on it. But what did prplzh say? Defense is better than "rolling over". He is on the defense, definitely scummy.^^



lol

Yes "lynchable" as in scummy enough for me to be OK lynching you. I understand the confusion and how you can spin it though.


I don't understand the bold part. If you could elaborate that would be great. Is "spin it" another mafia terminology for some kind of stuff?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:45 GMT
#841
I just notice in the filter if you don't quote, nobody knows what the post is related to. I must pay attention to this next time. Many of my unquoted post are actually direct responses. That's really troublesome.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#918
On April 12 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
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On April 11 2015 09:10 plotspot wrote:
On April 11 2015 08:57 Half the Sky wrote:
I also don't like how plot said that TBD was a victim. When two posts prior, he says this.

On April 10 2015 09:34 plotspot wrote:
Why joke vote? It will stand as long as nothing else happens. It's not like Ace1312 feels totally threatened. At this time Bourneq will burn. Or even BloodyDwarf who a few people have on their list for certain acceptable reasons.


It's a bit contradictory in logic.


I think the word "acceptable" is the bad boy here right? I should have written "acceptable for them, in their kind of logic, to which I can agree to a certain degree, but not nailingly sure for me". I think Dwarf is a victim because, he has to justify himself and looks helpless, but that's also because he hasn't post alot right?


1 I point him out on the word "acceptable"
2 His quoted part of the sentence (which I've bolded) he is saying others are finding it acceptable but he's not so sure (not nailingly sure for me)
3 In his prior post, he said that Dwarf was a victim, but then by saying "he has to justify himself.....that's also because he hasn't posted a lot, right" he's already answered his own concern in #2 "not nailingly sure for me."


Just to get it right here. "he looks helpless, because he didn't post a lot to defend himself yet". It's not "he has to justify himself, because he hasn't posted a lot yet". It's also "anyone who needs to justify himself is a victim, regardless whether he is a rightful victim or not". Normally victim is usually in a negative sense for unjust things. I don't ALWAYS use it in that sense.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#2370
LOL
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 21:25 GMT
#2390
Sorry for bad play.^^ As the game went on I actually understood how detrimental bad town play is to the whole town constitution. It's like you're making it really easy for mafia to push things, for mafia to appear that it's not their own idea they are pushing, but just pushing things that town was already in for.
And also reaching a certain state, explanations wouldn't help anymore. Especially the kind of helpless explanation provided by clueless newbie players, basically just defending themselves, forgetting the actual scumhunt, which makes it easy for mafia to convince other townies that these guys don't do townish things.
I think towards the end I kind of thought Tube was mafia for his dispute with Breshke who is by that time obvioulsy VET. rsoultin was kinda in my scope es well, but she defended herself really well. JJB? Looks very townish and towards the end of game kinda AFKed away, maybe because he didn't see the need to interfere anymore.
The Bourneq thing is kind of unfortunate, it was a 50:50 situation. I think the remaining people were more willing to lose like this than Bourneq really being mafia in the end with his unresolving way, uncommitted way. I can feel for him and TBD, they are basically in the same shoe as me. We don't have the experience to make the RIGHT effort and detail out what is commonly regarded as good standard town play under pressure.
I must admit you guys are really committed to this, especially Trfel, who really reread everything and made the right case on Tube. All in all the effort of reading, arguing and counterarguing cannot be replaced. The mafia team put much effort into this, imo makes them the deserved winner. Well played.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 23:31 GMT
#2456
It's kinda funny, this game kinda changed my outlook on real life too. Other people really look for different things than me. You really need to understand them first, what they want to say, their motives. And finally if you want to convince someone you really have to be strategic, consistent, start slowly, making sure they follow your thoughts, double checking to make sure they are on it, support them, babysit them etc... it's an art.
I actually fear the thought that there are people like you guys in real life. They could plan a case against you, gaining support, swinging the momentum, nailing the coffin. All the while you can just watch and "eh, but". Still, there is hope, you just have to know how to be "constructive". The phrase "don't give up" seems kinda cheesy in movies, but it has a true meaning here imo.
Btw, just from hearing I can imagine there are games where the tone is much rougher, so this game here I think all the people were very nice, calm, collected, reasonable. I like that a lot. I wish real life people were more like this and not get offended or defensive over silly things, it simply doesn't "construct" anything.^^
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 23:43 GMT
#2459
your post are kinda hard to understand, maybe if i used the same formatting, i can channel on to it ><
what'd ya mean by filthy military language?
i kinda read on down under 2, this one guy going after you, that was extreme, but you also seemed to provoke him (unwittingly or not), did you noticed something to avoid so such a thing might not occur again?
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