• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:17
CET 12:17
KST 20:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview0TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation10Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time?
Tourneys
RSL S3 Round of 16 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1739 users

Newbie Student Mafia VII - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:40 GMT
#840
On April 12 2015 02:33 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 02:20 plotspot wrote:
So I am "lynchable today", but you don't necessarily think I'm scum? Hey townsfolk, he is suspicious.^^
How do I make people think 100% that I'm scum, still trying to work this out.^^

Defense is bad right? yeah I know. I've given up on it. But what did prplzh say? Defense is better than "rolling over". He is on the defense, definitely scummy.^^



lol

Yes "lynchable" as in scummy enough for me to be OK lynching you. I understand the confusion and how you can spin it though.


I don't understand the bold part. If you could elaborate that would be great. Is "spin it" another mafia terminology for some kind of stuff?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:45 GMT
#841
I just notice in the filter if you don't quote, nobody knows what the post is related to. I must pay attention to this next time. Many of my unquoted post are actually direct responses. That's really troublesome.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#918
On April 12 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 09:10 plotspot wrote:
On April 11 2015 08:57 Half the Sky wrote:
I also don't like how plot said that TBD was a victim. When two posts prior, he says this.

On April 10 2015 09:34 plotspot wrote:
Why joke vote? It will stand as long as nothing else happens. It's not like Ace1312 feels totally threatened. At this time Bourneq will burn. Or even BloodyDwarf who a few people have on their list for certain acceptable reasons.


It's a bit contradictory in logic.


I think the word "acceptable" is the bad boy here right? I should have written "acceptable for them, in their kind of logic, to which I can agree to a certain degree, but not nailingly sure for me". I think Dwarf is a victim because, he has to justify himself and looks helpless, but that's also because he hasn't post alot right?


1 I point him out on the word "acceptable"
2 His quoted part of the sentence (which I've bolded) he is saying others are finding it acceptable but he's not so sure (not nailingly sure for me)
3 In his prior post, he said that Dwarf was a victim, but then by saying "he has to justify himself.....that's also because he hasn't posted a lot, right" he's already answered his own concern in #2 "not nailingly sure for me."


Just to get it right here. "he looks helpless, because he didn't post a lot to defend himself yet". It's not "he has to justify himself, because he hasn't posted a lot yet". It's also "anyone who needs to justify himself is a victim, regardless whether he is a rightful victim or not". Normally victim is usually in a negative sense for unjust things. I don't ALWAYS use it in that sense.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#2370
LOL
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 21:25 GMT
#2390
Sorry for bad play.^^ As the game went on I actually understood how detrimental bad town play is to the whole town constitution. It's like you're making it really easy for mafia to push things, for mafia to appear that it's not their own idea they are pushing, but just pushing things that town was already in for.
And also reaching a certain state, explanations wouldn't help anymore. Especially the kind of helpless explanation provided by clueless newbie players, basically just defending themselves, forgetting the actual scumhunt, which makes it easy for mafia to convince other townies that these guys don't do townish things.
I think towards the end I kind of thought Tube was mafia for his dispute with Breshke who is by that time obvioulsy VET. rsoultin was kinda in my scope es well, but she defended herself really well. JJB? Looks very townish and towards the end of game kinda AFKed away, maybe because he didn't see the need to interfere anymore.
The Bourneq thing is kind of unfortunate, it was a 50:50 situation. I think the remaining people were more willing to lose like this than Bourneq really being mafia in the end with his unresolving way, uncommitted way. I can feel for him and TBD, they are basically in the same shoe as me. We don't have the experience to make the RIGHT effort and detail out what is commonly regarded as good standard town play under pressure.
I must admit you guys are really committed to this, especially Trfel, who really reread everything and made the right case on Tube. All in all the effort of reading, arguing and counterarguing cannot be replaced. The mafia team put much effort into this, imo makes them the deserved winner. Well played.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 23:31 GMT
#2456
It's kinda funny, this game kinda changed my outlook on real life too. Other people really look for different things than me. You really need to understand them first, what they want to say, their motives. And finally if you want to convince someone you really have to be strategic, consistent, start slowly, making sure they follow your thoughts, double checking to make sure they are on it, support them, babysit them etc... it's an art.
I actually fear the thought that there are people like you guys in real life. They could plan a case against you, gaining support, swinging the momentum, nailing the coffin. All the while you can just watch and "eh, but". Still, there is hope, you just have to know how to be "constructive". The phrase "don't give up" seems kinda cheesy in movies, but it has a true meaning here imo.
Btw, just from hearing I can imagine there are games where the tone is much rougher, so this game here I think all the people were very nice, calm, collected, reasonable. I like that a lot. I wish real life people were more like this and not get offended or defensive over silly things, it simply doesn't "construct" anything.^^
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 17 2015 23:43 GMT
#2459
your post are kinda hard to understand, maybe if i used the same formatting, i can channel on to it ><
what'd ya mean by filthy military language?
i kinda read on down under 2, this one guy going after you, that was extreme, but you also seemed to provoke him (unwittingly or not), did you noticed something to avoid so such a thing might not occur again?
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Group A
MaxPax vs BunnyLIVE!
Solar vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
Crank 1087
Tasteless500
ComeBackTV 497
IndyStarCraft 101
Rex97
3DClanTV 46
Liquipedia
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 71
CranKy Ducklings31
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Crank 1087
Tasteless 500
SortOf 146
IndyStarCraft 101
Rex 97
RotterdaM 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 5795
Calm 5420
Bisu 2350
Sea 1767
Horang2 1195
Flash 706
Free 580
Pusan 520
Leta 177
Last 169
[ Show more ]
Rush 103
sSak 86
JulyZerg 79
ZerO 76
ToSsGirL 62
Barracks 52
hero 49
Backho 48
Aegong 44
Yoon 28
NaDa 16
Icarus 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Terrorterran 7
Noble 1
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma271
XcaliburYe195
League of Legends
Reynor77
Counter-Strike
olofmeister740
zeus464
shoxiejesuss343
x6flipin233
Other Games
summit1g15779
crisheroes301
B2W.Neo293
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick513
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen36
League of Legends
• Stunt619
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
43m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Cure
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
43m
PiGosaur Monday
13h 43m
RSL Revival
22h 43m
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
1d
herO vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
2 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
3 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.