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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:18 GMT
#1881
On April 16 2015 10:12 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:47 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:41 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:19 rsoultin wrote:
meh i don't really know what prp is doing this day phase :/ i don't mind his EoD behavior except AFKing the lynch. like basically all of day 1 still looks good to me with that exception?

but then there's just the blah where he doesn't seem to have much of an opinion about today's lynch at all. like it almost seems like he's got the lynch down to between bourneq and tbd and is using townreading tbd as an excuse to lynch bourne, when there's tons more players in this game and 3 scum besides -_-

i dunnae. i'd lynch him before players like jjb, hts and truffle at this point (and prob bresh though he's on my list to look at too right now lol ><) but his day 1 makes me hesitant

i don't see this "overwhelmed" townie argument stutters >< he's had over 72 hours to get caught up, and his own excuse was just basically he didn't want to play lol >< at least as i understood it

and that's okay?


Meh I don't like hiding behind excuses. But to be more accurate, I didn't have time to play because fun things kept coming up during my days off that I couldn't say no to. I'm here right now and I'm at work on my phone posting.

And this is my first time replacing. I am slightly overwhelmed. But I am trying here. And I'm telling you, boldly, that lynching me is a huge mistake for town.


Thankyou i could logically understand this


I was also set to be lynched at one point and said town would feel stupid as fuck when I flipped. I was leading votes at the time. I mean, you don't have to believe me.

I claimed because I am the vigi and I threw this game. Town is probably mad as hell at me and I understand why. At least this way I don't drag it out and Fuck us any harder than I already have.


No you don't egt to give up if you are actually the town vigi which i still highly doubt. Why did you shoot stutters for "breadcrumbing blue" when you scumread me for pressuring him about that post. Also why would you shoot him for that reason when he could have been the vet or medic (its deffs vet there no way its medic)


But I do. I still think you'll flip scum. I'm still voting you. If you don't, gg. If you do, I die tonight and my game is over. I'm fine with that. I'm already done with this one, due in large part to how badly I played.

And since I'm alrdy getting flamed in Obs, I'm sure, I'll add fuel to the fire saying this: you were blue fishing there. I wasn't looking for him to claim. I was looking for him to cash in on that promise of me seeing why he was town. I didn't see it so I shot.

You were a town lean at one point for me. Stutters was a scum read that I said had "significantly better" activity and couldn't be lynched D2. I was torn between you two. I saw scum in both of you at different points. I decided to trust my original gut instinct from D1.


that at least makes more sense than thinking he'd claim lol ><

but that still doesn't explain why you thought breshke "blue-fishing" at your scumread made him scum? i'm really confused how you can think they're scum together, where breshke is doing something that could be construed as blue-fishing a scummate who is softing blue? or not...softing blue? like how does that thought process even go, shining?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:29 GMT
#1890
On April 16 2015 10:21 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 10:16 Tubesock wrote:
On April 16 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 10:04 Tubesock wrote:
##Vote: Breshke

I think I have this game solved. I need time to double check.

Prp, Rso, Shining all town. I absolutely believe Shining.

Who thinks Rsoultin was a NK risk? I didn't and I have a huge mafia skill crush on her. I didn't think HTS would be either I thought Stutters, Trfel, or Breshke. I didn't do a legacy either as I'd think scum would be dumb to shoot me over those three. HTS died cause she was on to something or the biggest risk.


I dont do wills either. Im not saying its scummy to do wills. I was saying its scummy for rso not to do wills.

Why are you so believing of shining? Have you seen his reason for shooting stutters. Tell me how it makes sense?


Ok, I may eat my words later if Shining gets CC'd but I think the scenario where he doesn't shoot D1 can be explained by lack of confidence in D1 reads. I think that too he thought D3 he was up for a mlynch or that town had high risk for it. If he waited till N3 it would be too late. I'll look back on his read.

There are some other things that I'm considering that fit the world I'm seeing. I was confused with your Prp hammer but was giving you excuses. And this fakeclaim play is so bad. I think you see that you can sweep town and are going for the big play now.

I understand Prplhz's reasons for foregoing the no lynch. He thinks he has it solved (he's wrong). But you don't have the game solved so I don't like your reasons to skip no lynch at all. No fucking way. It's such bad play. But you want to end this because you are mafia.


I wont argue the fake claim play could be total shit.

I will argue this. What do we get from a no lynch. Someone who most people agree is town dies. Probably you or trefel. That gets us nowhere and we still HAVE TO lynch mafia tomorrow.

Instead we lynch today. We lynch mafia today and if we lynch the roleblocker then there is every chance mafia tries to shoot the vet and we gain a misslynch. Lynching today gives us a chance to get a misslynch back. No lynching gets us nothing but one dead townie.


this is actually true...lol >< eh

my plan was more conservative, hoping that scum wouldn't pick off a blue out of the five players left -_- honestly bresh i thought you might be wifoming if you were town and that was why the ALL CAPS the mafia WILL DEFINITELY KILL ME in your post, like you were trying to tell the real vig not to CC you lol ><

but here's the thing, breshke...why would scum CC you here, huh? they know there's a vig, it would be a vote-off between you and them...lol it's like 10x more likely the real vig CCs here >< which is why i kept saying not to
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:33 GMT
#1893
shining i'm not seeing things suggesting you were scumreading stutters in your later posting either, and that is really concerning me -_- i'm not getting the thought process

if it was to keep the scumteam from stopping your shot and/or killing you, i don't get why you were going so hard at bresh who you also say you thought was scum ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:35 GMT
#1895
On April 16 2015 10:29 The Shining wrote:
Ebwop:

Clicked post on phone instead of expand. Hate phone posting.

As for Bresh, it was the way he did it. So much talk of roles and set up in his filter. Forcefully pushing Stutters to claim. He really wanted to know.

Like I said, I was torn between the two. I guess I should've explained it more clearly. I couldn't tell if they were both scum but I knew I read both of them scum at one point. Stutters early, Bresh recently.

If Stutters flipped scum, it effectively would've thrown scum off track and made this game easier, as well as shed new light on the Stutters-Bresh interaction. It would've helped me re evaluate Breah.

If Stutters flipped town, which he did, it cemented what I already thought in that Bresh is scum and was blue fishing.


this makes sense lol ><

i wanted to lynch stutters when i still thought hts could be scum, cause i thought that they only made sense as scum together >< but then i read his filter and he didn't look like scum to me at all so i dropped it...well that and hts kept pushing at things even when i took off the pressure
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:37 GMT
#1896
On April 16 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 10:29 The Shining wrote:
Ebwop:

Clicked post on phone instead of expand. Hate phone posting.

As for Bresh, it was the way he did it. So much talk of roles and set up in his filter. Forcefully pushing Stutters to claim. He really wanted to know.

Like I said, I was torn between the two. I guess I should've explained it more clearly. I couldn't tell if they were both scum but I knew I read both of them scum at one point. Stutters early, Bresh recently.

If Stutters flipped scum, it effectively would've thrown scum off track and made this game easier, as well as shed new light on the Stutters-Bresh interaction. It would've helped me re evaluate Breah.

If Stutters flipped town, which he did, it cemented what I already thought in that Bresh is scum and was blue fishing.


Yet none of this logic was brought up in your voting for no lynch post. I still don't believe it you are making this up on the spot.


tch if you're town you're griping at him for the same reason that i was griping at hts ^^ only his actions actually make sense given the explanation, where hers really didn't. what if no one cc's him bresh?

that said, the absence of a noticeable scumread thing, shining, is still a problem for me ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:40 GMT
#1897
meh -_-

##unvote

regardless i think the value of a no-lynch is long gone by now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:40 GMT
#1899
we either have scum claiming vig or a real vig claim lol >< we have to lynch today for sure
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:44 GMT
#1902
On April 16 2015 10:41 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote:
meh -_-

##unvote

regardless i think the value of a no-lynch is long gone by now


I do feel bad because i basically forced town upon taking what i think is the best play.


-snorts- oh believe me, if you're town and this costs us the game i'll be holding you responsible ^^ for about half-an-hour and then just tease you incessantly until i forget xP which is probably never lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:47 GMT
#1903
to be clear, if we're lynching today and shining isn't the vig you 100% need to CC him

vet shouldn't claim unless he's being lynched -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 01:53 GMT
#1905
On April 16 2015 10:49 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 10:43 The Shining wrote:
On April 16 2015 10:18 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 10:12 The Shining wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:47 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:41 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:19 rsoultin wrote:
meh i don't really know what prp is doing this day phase :/ i don't mind his EoD behavior except AFKing the lynch. like basically all of day 1 still looks good to me with that exception?

but then there's just the blah where he doesn't seem to have much of an opinion about today's lynch at all. like it almost seems like he's got the lynch down to between bourneq and tbd and is using townreading tbd as an excuse to lynch bourne, when there's tons more players in this game and 3 scum besides -_-

i dunnae. i'd lynch him before players like jjb, hts and truffle at this point (and prob bresh though he's on my list to look at too right now lol ><) but his day 1 makes me hesitant

i don't see this "overwhelmed" townie argument stutters >< he's had over 72 hours to get caught up, and his own excuse was just basically he didn't want to play lol >< at least as i understood it

and that's okay?


Meh I don't like hiding behind excuses. But to be more accurate, I didn't have time to play because fun things kept coming up during my days off that I couldn't say no to. I'm here right now and I'm at work on my phone posting.

And this is my first time replacing. I am slightly overwhelmed. But I am trying here. And I'm telling you, boldly, that lynching me is a huge mistake for town.


Thankyou i could logically understand this


I was also set to be lynched at one point and said town would feel stupid as fuck when I flipped. I was leading votes at the time. I mean, you don't have to believe me.

I claimed because I am the vigi and I threw this game. Town is probably mad as hell at me and I understand why. At least this way I don't drag it out and Fuck us any harder than I already have.


No you don't egt to give up if you are actually the town vigi which i still highly doubt. Why did you shoot stutters for "breadcrumbing blue" when you scumread me for pressuring him about that post. Also why would you shoot him for that reason when he could have been the vet or medic (its deffs vet there no way its medic)


But I do. I still think you'll flip scum. I'm still voting you. If you don't, gg. If you do, I die tonight and my game is over. I'm fine with that. I'm already done with this one, due in large part to how badly I played.

And since I'm alrdy getting flamed in Obs, I'm sure, I'll add fuel to the fire saying this: you were blue fishing there. I wasn't looking for him to claim. I was looking for him to cash in on that promise of me seeing why he was town. I didn't see it so I shot.

You were a town lean at one point for me. Stutters was a scum read that I said had "significantly better" activity and couldn't be lynched D2. I was torn between you two. I saw scum in both of you at different points. I decided to trust my original gut instinct from D1.


I dont buy this seriously if you are vigi and you did shoot stutters who cares noone can flame you we have miss lynched twice everyone's obviously hasnt been doing the best.

Can you explain how you thought he would prove himself to be town D2 if you thought he was bread crumbing a role?


I didn't think that he was crumbing a role. You did. I just said I noticed the same post you did, in large part due to the fact that you pointed it out.

I was waiting for him to step up and bleed town for me. I can't say I'm great at reading people, though, and I was also unsure on Prpl so I had to choose. I didn't get that town feel from him. Maybe if he had done more instead of tunneling Prpl, or actually gotten Prpl lynched and a scum flip, I may have seen it.


Once again i disagree. Look at this post here.

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 10:33 Stutters695 wrote:
On April 14 2015 10:31 Breshke wrote:
Stutters have you seen the reason why I am voting you?

Sure have. WIFOM son. Am I blue, am I VT? Who knows, but my posting should make it pretty obvious I'm town.


I think this makes it clear he knew it was him "softing" a role. Also it also infers that he wouldn't be stepping up his game play at all because he already thought he was obvious town through posting so he couldn't have ment that he would show he was obvious town through posting more.

I feel like this doesn't make sense but what im saying is this post basically clarify s he was softing a role and i dont think shining would have missed it if he was flip flopping between me and stutters


>< lol i get what you're saying, bresh

i'm having trouble understanding this, too, but i'm not going to vote an un-cc'd vig in MYLO no matter how weird it sounds. if shining's a fake and the real vig doesn't CC here, that's on him

i still don't get scum CCing you right here -_- it doesn't make sense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 02:10 GMT
#1913
lol >< two players turn up and one of them isn't bourne, and i wonder what people were smoking -_- frankly

but, eh, i can't say anything. i was a terrible blue

i'm actually waffling on bresh again now -_- the only possible scum motivation i can think of for a fake vigi claim is...lol well pretty much what shining has already said. forcing us to lynch today and the vig to claim. obviously it isn't scum-favored to have a no-lynch. meh. i'd feel way more comfortable about it if bresh didn't make it clear he was trying to trap scum into ccing him though >< that's just stupid

if you're town, bresh, sorry, but it's what i think ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 02:31 GMT
#1917
well, regardless, i have a paper to write ^^ so until everyone returns to the thread this is going nowhere anyway

bresh and tube being all mysterious -_- it's mylo i'm not happy with mysterious but whatever
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:05 GMT
#1924
On April 16 2015 11:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 11:57 Trfel wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS AMAZING

I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD
And before you ask, of course I'm joking.

The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is.

I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now.

##unvote

And if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim.


parrot :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:25 GMT
#1937
...

"the vet should not claim"

breshke: I AM THE VET. this is how NOT to play

-_- no shit, sherlock

but now we have poe so there's that xP assuming breshke isn't fake-claiming again

btw, bresh, if this is your vet play i do not understand ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:30 GMT
#1942
On April 16 2015 12:26 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 12:25 The Shining wrote:
On April 16 2015 12:23 Trfel wrote:
Furthermore, if we have a real veteran, they should counterclaim Breshke.

I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate.

However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches?


I've played 3-4'games here, I think. This is 4th or 5th. I hold n illusions, I am definitely still a newb.


he probably means me dude dw it fine

I have to claim here or town just keeps going the wrong way.


lol >< so you claimed vigi

to get shot

because you're vet

buuuut you claimed vigi knowing scum has an rb still xP so you're gambling that 1. your scumreads are actually correct (ROFL) and 2. that if you do by some miracle hit scum the one you hit is the RB

oh and the vigi's shot is already spent

and instead of reacting to a vig claim actually considering it might be the real vig, you get all bouncy happy? >< dude, if you are town this game -_- gah! everything you've done in the last 48 hours is conf!bias omgus bullshit ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:32 GMT
#1944
no, i'm not going to vote you right here -_- even though i almost don't care what alignment you are right now

meh

now we get to wait on everyone to see for the vet claim. joy
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:36 GMT
#1948
i don't agree but it doesn't matter

truffle is right

what's done is done -_-

so assuming all claims are true...that leaves jjb/tube/bourne

lol >< so at least there's that

or one of my townreads is wrong (prp/truffle)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:37 GMT
#1950
if one of my townreads is wrong it's probably prp :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:38 GMT
#1951
eh honestly i could use the extra time too -_- my midterm is due friday evening

##vote: no-lynch
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 03:43 GMT
#1955
On April 16 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
Can everyone agree on this?

If Breshke is not actually the veteran, he absolutely gets lynched here. No possibility whatsoever for him to rescind his claim.

If The Shining is not actually the vigilante, he absolutely gets lynched here. No possibility whatsoever for him to rescind his claim.

Therefore, it is imperative that if Breshke is not the real veteran and/or The Shining is not the real vigilante, that the real power role(s) must claim as soon as possible. Just to make it absolutely clear.


lol everyone should be agreed on this yes ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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