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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 16:30 GMT
#1738
On April 16 2015 01:23 Trfel wrote:
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On April 16 2015 01:21 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 01:20 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 01:19 rsoultin wrote:
nah, fecalfeast is baller when he's on the ball lol xP plus vengeance!
Shush, I need to make my joke work!
+ Show Spoiler +
Fecalfeast is actually a very good host/cohost, haha. Maybe I should shoot him instead of LoneMeow


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have you tested spoilers in the QT yet? he'll never find that we're shooting him there!
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But if he doesn't see it, then he won't count the shot on himself? We sort of need the host to resolve the shot...


+ Show Spoiler +
maybe there's a special lonemeow only spoiler? xP better get on that! you know more about formatting than i do lolol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 17:54 GMT
#1742
how much?

ummm

i know shining, stutters and i all think he's scum, but i don't know about anyone else? and i'm not sure on shining either lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 18:19 GMT
#1744
On April 16 2015 03:02 Trfel wrote:
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On April 16 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
how much?

ummm

i know shining, stutters and i all think he's scum, but i don't know about anyone else? and i'm not sure on shining either lol ><
After rereading Breshke's filter, he is my strongest townread.

He hasn't necessarily been the most forceful player here, but he's shown a clear desire to solve the game. He's been sharing important reads, and he's made a lot of very good observations. I just don't see Breshke being scum here.

If you would like a meta reason, Breshke suffered from inactivity in the last game I played with him (Guardians of the Galaxy). He still made several key observations, but ended up being mislynched for his periods of inactivity. Given that I feel that his posts in this game have been more insightful than last, I am even less inclined to lynch him.


which important reads are you referring to? he's a smart guy and has a tendency to focus on townreads/defending town as scum...which clearly was what he was doing day 2 if not day 1 lol at least the defending players part >< in terms of reservations though he does tend to be less decisive as town? like i've already put out meta points on him; they still hold

meh i don't really find him as insightful this game as i'd expect >< there have been several occasions where at best it feels like he's stating things before he's read anything
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 18:31 GMT
#1747
On April 16 2015 03:23 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:19 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
how much?

ummm

i know shining, stutters and i all think he's scum, but i don't know about anyone else? and i'm not sure on shining either lol ><
After rereading Breshke's filter, he is my strongest townread.

He hasn't necessarily been the most forceful player here, but he's shown a clear desire to solve the game. He's been sharing important reads, and he's made a lot of very good observations. I just don't see Breshke being scum here.

If you would like a meta reason, Breshke suffered from inactivity in the last game I played with him (Guardians of the Galaxy). He still made several key observations, but ended up being mislynched for his periods of inactivity. Given that I feel that his posts in this game have been more insightful than last, I am even less inclined to lynch him.


which important reads are you referring to? he's a smart guy and has a tendency to focus on townreads/defending town as scum...which clearly was what he was doing day 2 if not day 1 lol at least the defending players part >< in terms of reservations though he does tend to be less decisive as town? like i've already put out meta points on him; they still hold

meh i don't really find him as insightful this game as i'd expect >< there have been several occasions where at best it feels like he's stating things before he's read anything
Okay, fine, his Day 2 was weaker. But I don't care? He played an extremely solid Day 1. Read through his filter again, there's an explanation for everything he's been doing.


okay? so who do you think is scum? (for the record, i agree that a solid day 1 is reason enough to give people more time, just see prp...however to refuse to consider his day 2 because of his day 1? that's foolish xP a lot of people fall off as scum after day 1 because it's hard to maintain)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 18:44 GMT
#1749
On April 16 2015 03:35 Trfel wrote:
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On April 16 2015 03:31 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:23 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:19 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
how much?

ummm

i know shining, stutters and i all think he's scum, but i don't know about anyone else? and i'm not sure on shining either lol ><
After rereading Breshke's filter, he is my strongest townread.

He hasn't necessarily been the most forceful player here, but he's shown a clear desire to solve the game. He's been sharing important reads, and he's made a lot of very good observations. I just don't see Breshke being scum here.

If you would like a meta reason, Breshke suffered from inactivity in the last game I played with him (Guardians of the Galaxy). He still made several key observations, but ended up being mislynched for his periods of inactivity. Given that I feel that his posts in this game have been more insightful than last, I am even less inclined to lynch him.


which important reads are you referring to? he's a smart guy and has a tendency to focus on townreads/defending town as scum...which clearly was what he was doing day 2 if not day 1 lol at least the defending players part >< in terms of reservations though he does tend to be less decisive as town? like i've already put out meta points on him; they still hold

meh i don't really find him as insightful this game as i'd expect >< there have been several occasions where at best it feels like he's stating things before he's read anything
Okay, fine, his Day 2 was weaker. But I don't care? He played an extremely solid Day 1. Read through his filter again, there's an explanation for everything he's been doing.


okay? so who do you think is scum? (for the record, i agree that a solid day 1 is reason enough to give people more time, just see prp...however to refuse to consider his day 2 because of his day 1? that's foolish xP a lot of people fall off as scum after day 1 because it's hard to maintain)
To be honest, right now I'm kind of wondering if the hosts screwed up and didn't make any scum team. Really though, I'm kind of kicking myself. I'll spend maybe another hour or so digging through filters trying to find something, but then I'd better get to my schoolwork, as I'm quite far behind.

I guess the people I'm most suspicious of are Bourneq, The Shining, and maybe Tubesock or Stutters695.

I'm leaving you (rsoultin), Half the Sky, and jarjarbinks for later. I'm looking at prplhz presently, though I don't expect to find much that is scummy.


i feel so unloved ;o;

eh i like shining though :/ we had a moment lol ><

okay i'll admit i'm probably conf biasing up the ying yang cause most of my townreads (not all) are people who agree with me >< bad rso. but i don't think i'm going to get to filter-diving before EoN
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 21:36 GMT
#1774
nh :/

why the retraction, truffle, out of curiosity? (not saying i disagree >< lol)

no-lynch is best

##vote: no lynch

but people need to actually step up and do work >< if it goes dead in here i'd rather lynch, cause we're still looking at triple lylo even with a no-lynch, and a mafia roleblocker...best case scenario scum shoots and hits vt

also agree that no one should claim as long as we're no-lynching
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 21:41 GMT
#1776
On April 16 2015 06:39 Bourneq wrote:
Explain to me please what we achiev with not lynching? Newbie question im sure but I need to know before I cast a vote.


it's more time to look into everything (which is why i said we need to be active) basically buys 72 hours

it also forces scum to make another nk which gives more information...and then there are two blue roles who can claim day 4 to narrow the pool down further, assuming scum doesn't hit one of them night 3. strategically it's just better?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 21:47 GMT
#1778
On April 16 2015 06:42 Trfel wrote:
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On April 16 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
nh :/

why the retraction, truffle, out of curiosity? (not saying i disagree >< lol)
I just eventually realized that I don't think that no lynching has that big of an effect on our chances of winning.

It gives scum an extra night kill, but they'll just kill our towniest player. And at this point, we kind of need to start assuming that our somewhat towny people are town, since we can't afford to be paranoid about everyone (unless you have a ton of time on your hands, in which case by all means go ahead). I think that the main value of no lynching is to get extra time to solve the game. This helps me quite a bit, since I have a bunch of work to do over the next day (real time), but I'm not sure if it would help enough to warrant dragging the game out for three extra days (real time).

It's basically up to everyone else. If they want to play the game and scumhunt, no lynching is the best play. If people are kind of done, I'm fine to just lynch and end it.


lol >< that's actually my concern, too? this is an endurance game, so if people aren't going to take advantage of the extra time...or analysis turns into over-analysis turns into paranoia...not sure how helpful it will be. the only real value is poe-wise at that point if we still have two blues roles to narrow things down day 4

up to y'all, really. i'm willing to put in the extra work if we want to no-lynch? have a midterm due friday though >< lol timing is atrocious
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 21:50 GMT
#1779
-pokes at truffle- i was asking about your bresh read?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:02 GMT
#1785
lol what?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:04 GMT
#1788
On April 16 2015 07:03 Trfel wrote:
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On April 16 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
lol what?
You know, I didn't believe him, but this reaction is extremely scummy. Maybe he really is on to something.


scummiest reaction ever
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#1794
On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.


so essentially your case is:
- i'm mafia because i'm mafia
- i should be trying harder
- "letting" two townies get lynched

ooookay then

you do realize this is mylo? if you're town you're 100% throwing the game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#1796
On April 16 2015 07:05 prplhz wrote:
rso trfel is super town just you suggesting he is scum is ridic. i hope people realize because i'm so shit at explaining things


o.0 ummm what?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:16 GMT
#1802
meh i don't see a scum!prp trying to mislynch me here, i really don't ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#1804
On April 16 2015 07:17 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:12 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?

Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes.
I guarantee you that the timing of a vote made barely over an hour after the day began will not have any effect on a potential tiebreak for the lynch.

How come? Quoted from OP "If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch."
Concidering there is talk of not voting at all then there is quite the chance that it could matter.


no-vote counts as a vote lol >< that's the disconnect
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 22:19 GMT
#1806
On April 16 2015 07:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:17 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:12 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?

Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes.
I guarantee you that the timing of a vote made barely over an hour after the day began will not have any effect on a potential tiebreak for the lynch.

How come? Quoted from OP "If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch."
Concidering there is talk of not voting at all then there is quite the chance that it could matter.
A vote for a no lynch is still a vote.

If we do end up with a tie, which isn't terribly likely, then it will be the order of the last votes that matter, not the first.


^ what he said o.0 not sure why that came out no-vote
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#1820
On April 16 2015 07:39 Breshke wrote:
I really think we should actually no lynch here because there is a possibility we will kill the roleblock. It is quite obvious now that our setup is vet/vigi which is the worse one because town can jsut roelblock their kill every night because who cares if the vigi shoots because even if they hit scum it doesn't gain town a misslynch and if they hit town we lose a misslynch.

This being said we can get a misslynch back if we lynch the roleblocker today.

I also think lynching Rso today is great. The most damming thing that makes rso scum is the fact that she has not made a will post either of the nights. I let this slide N1 because she was travelling or whatever but this is something TOWN rso ALWAYS does. The only game she ever didn't do this she was mafia and reflected on it later that she was suprised noone noticed. She doesn't do this as mafia because she obviously does not think she is going to die so does not feel the need to leave information to town in that eventuality.

##Vote Rso


lol you've stated yourself i'm fully aware that i always do this as town, so you're really trying to sell that i wouldn't take special care to do it as scum? that's a terrible reason. you have to do better than that
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 23:30 GMT
#1822
On April 12 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote:
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On April 12 2015 13:09 Breshke wrote:
holy shit EBWOP
So imagine if stutters is mafia do you think a partner swaps to him there


lol sorry fell asleep >< on the plus side im on track to be home an hour or two before eon so woot

unlikely? 4:7 is actually fairly close...just need 2 vote switches...that said its possible if one of the wasted votes was a scum player lol but i dont see the need for risky plays here?

if it was town/town id look for non-committal type shifts to stutters. maybe hts? and/or wasted votes. prob 1-2 mafia on the main wagon. onegu almost def not scum in that case cause of how vocal he was about the lynch

kk not gonna post overall reads right now cause i think im super behind but top towns at the moment: bresh (revisit if stutters scum) and tube (enthusiasm on dwarf seemed like excited townie thinking hed found something awesome lol)

prp i think i need to reread just cause so many ppl seem to have a diff read? ive been mostly skimming so lol coulda missed something

mmmm shinings entrance last night looked pretty good? wasted vote not so much xP but i dont remember the context for hus vote so yeah

also sidenote bus means scum on scum so...huh?

kk starting the drive now @.@


you guys are boring me, frankly lol ><

it wasn't a list, but it was what i had with the time i had, and i fully expected not to be in before EoN

i also have failed to post legacies for at least one night in
- aperture
- down under 2

now if we're done playing super easy meta to replicate games xP

yes, breshke, i am pretty sure that you are scum, and no i am not sure about the other two right now and i'm not going to make things up just to appease people ^^

truffle and prp are currently the only ones i absolutely wouldn't lynch today lol >< i still really like shining's eod and night phase posting, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 23:39 GMT
#1823
it's a little rich that you're accusing me of not taking steps to figure out scum, breshke, given your performance day 2 and subsequent disappearance. we've had the conversation before that it's important to talk things out during the night phase. so where were you?

lol >< like the amount of bullshit people are spewing is insane right now, are y'all even reading what you're writing? when did i become hf or marv or fucking koshi that being alive on day 3 and not having lynched scum becomes a problem? look at down under 2...or don't lol >< i don't really care
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:04 GMT
#1826
On April 16 2015 08:56 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote:
it's a little rich that you're accusing me of not taking steps to figure out scum, breshke, given your performance day 2 and subsequent disappearance. we've had the conversation before that it's important to talk things out during the night phase. so where were you?

lol >< like the amount of bullshit people are spewing is insane right now, are y'all even reading what you're writing? when did i become hf or marv or fucking koshi that being alive on day 3 and not having lynched scum becomes a problem? look at down under 2...or don't lol >< i don't really care


This is a really nice paragraph even though im still fairly certain you are scum. I don't think you really think my D2 was that bad. You asked me for reads and i gave you 3 town reads that i was fairly sure about at the time. ( less sure about JJB right now because of stuff prp has said). Yes i still do agree that it is important to talk stuff through during the night phase but i wasn't really interested in talking with you because i didn't want to mention then will post thing because iw anted to see if you would post one or not.

I think this second paragraph is you being frustrated as scum because people are pushing you for reasons that you dont think make you scum and it is really frustrating you. I dont think anyone wants to lynch you because you havnt lynched mafia. Maybe you are referring to this post.

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On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.


I don't think prp means that by the bolded i think he is saying that you still lynched TBD even though all the points he brought against him being town. He would be the best to explain that though.


oh yes, the breshke who as scum has a terrible time making scumreads only has three townreads and you think that impressed me? lol god i hope you're scum this game ><

i'm town because i'm town. if you've honestly read my filter (the longest fucking one in the game, btw ><) and can still come back with i haven't been working out alignments, even with limited time, that i haven't been pushing things, you're a moron. but you're not a moron, breshke, so keep digging that hole

i love this second paragraph lol

i'm frustrated because i'm scum thinking your reasons to scumread me are terrible? and i wouldn't be frustrated that people are using shit-ass meta and "you lynched town" arguments as town? like when did you stop thinking? you sheeped terrible reasoning on dwarf (love you hts but that was bad ><), you had bourne as scum for what the tbd/plot stuff? actually i'm not sure you mentioned why at all but i'd have to recheck your filter -_- you couldn't even tell me why you thought hts was town lol

and still you're not bothering to look at things from both directions unless i press you! trying to say i'd been townreading you all game

and how does me posting or not posting a legacy have anything to do with talking at night? you didn't have to talk to me -_- that is such bs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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