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ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 18:37 GMT

#7838

On March 30 2015 03:24 Onegu wrote:

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And what does my lynch tell you?

imo it would indicate damdred's alignment. because I think if damdred is mafia, he is 100% with you.

it would also give me some insight into those calling you town in the face of fake claims vs calling me mafia cuz of rayn's fake claims.

but mostly I think it would lynch mafia.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 19:19 GMT

#7841

I am here if you wanna talk to me artanis, I am triple tasking w/ 2 mafia games and having to look at baby stuff, but I will give you what I can.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 19:34 GMT

#7843

On March 30 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, what did you think about my explanations regarding the orb, and why did you ask Vivax in particular?

Also, what's your feeling on Superbia right now after my exchange with him?

I read the orb stuff, and I think I kinda understand your point now. I still think that since the play wasn't made it indicates that your PoE is wrong somewhere. You said something like I could be mafia sowing doubts, or mafia could be waiting for someone to make this point. I know I am town, so I am just taking the simple answer: there is likely something wrong with the PoE.

Regarding vivax, I re-read it. I still dunno why particularly, but my general sense is that I felt at the time everyone was pidgeon holing into the same beliefs which included me as mafia and vivax was the only one considering alternatives, so that is probably why I prompted him.

superbia.....him and breshke are kinda at the same place where I just don't have a real solid grasp on their alignment. I think Onegu + damdred are together, and I find FF's dumbtells to be forced and fake (along with his utter uselessness); so I would put all 3 of them ahead of superbia/breshke for now

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 19:46 GMT

#7845

because ff is actively making excuses and poking his head in. breshke just plain isn't here.

someone actively not solving the game is always going to read more scum to me than someone passively not solving the game

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 19:46 GMT

#7846

also breshke had a town interaction with me right when I entered the thread, ff doesn't have anything I can even remember other than excuses.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 19:51 GMT

#7848

there's no way it's going to shift on onegu or ff? I would vastly prefer those :/

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:11 GMT

#7852

okay then, we should lynch FF or onegu and here's why:

FF - what has he done? supposedly he did some stuff that was "really townie" according to himself early on. after that he has done absolutely jack shit other than make excuses and talk about how he is certainly going to be in LYLO. his excuses have been fake, forced, and not funny. he has voted on a shitload of town, promised to do filter dives and not delivered, and has made 0 effort to push the game in any direction this phase. effort isn't always an indicator of alignment but his time in thread vs scum hunting ratio is utter crap.

onegu - we should lynch onegu because he fake claimed, backed out of it, re-upped it, got rebuffed, then rescinded. that should not go unpunished and is scum as fuck. I also think if he is mafia he is 100% with damdred, so flipping him will give damdred's alignment too. there are also people in the game (can't recall names atm) who's scum read on rayn is cuz of a fake claim, but they TR onegu, which makes no sense to me. it would give perspective on people's alignments from that pov. but the most important point is that damdred is mafia, and if he is mafia he is 100% with onegu because they completely ignored eachother until I entered the game and prompted interaction.

I will vote either of these 2 over super/breshke atm. I would prefer onegu first.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:12 GMT

#7853

actually I would prefer damdred....but y'know....

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:15 GMT

#7857

I am wrong and damdred is like 93% town would be my conclusion.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:26 GMT

#7860

On March 30 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:

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You got no reasons for a standalone damdred scumread?

I am trying to think in terms of teams at this point. The onegu + damdred scum read actually comes almost entirely from damdred's play. The only really excessively scum thing from onegu is his claim stuff. I just think them ignoring eachother links them super hard.

So I guess my answer is yes, a lot of standalone damdred reasons, and I am associatively reading Onegu scum for it; but I kinda think they have to be a team.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:34 GMT

#7863

yeah breshke moved his vote around in a weird manner last phase. I remember that.

he like justified voting for one person, then voted for someone else in the same post. then the moment the winds shifted he followed w/o a word. I remember rescinding my TR on him for it.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:37 GMT

#7867

On March 30 2015 05:35 Vivax wrote:

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What makes you want to lynch Onegu first if Damdred is in your opinion scummy on his own? That makes everything sound like bs.

I have been wanting to lynch damdred forever, and even said so like 5 posts ago. The problem is no one will go on damdred with me no matter how hard I try.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:39 GMT

#7871

On March 30 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky?

we have been over this twice before lol. the basics are fake claim = town confusion = good for mafia = mafia motivations.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:43 GMT

#7875

I have to go in 15 minutes, so I need to know if an ff or onegu switch is happening soon. if not, I am willing to believe in artanis' read of superbia over breshke.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:44 GMT

#7877

On March 30 2015 05:43 Onegu wrote:

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Not all fake claims are bad. I mean seriously. It didn't quite accomplish what I wanted but in a world where SL doesn't get the orb he still becomes almost confirmed town with how he reacted to HF being my mason partner. And I don't think it was that confusing plus I drew a mafia shot, how is that not good for town?

or you could have been mafia prevented from delivering a shot? lol jk works both ways.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 29 2015 20:47 GMT

#7879

On March 25 2015 05:51 ritoky wrote:

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you're not utilizing your read on me either.

hello pot, i am kettle.

i wrote down immediately in my notes: mason or mafia next to you. i just don't think the line of play you're taking in regards to me is something you would do if you were playing from an individual pov, it seems more like an approach you would take if you were collaborating. i feel like if you were solo you would be more confident in your read on me versus meta stuff on rayn.

my read on you usually takes about 36 hours to really get it down though. so in about 24 hours ask me damdred's alignment and i will give it to you with 100% accuracy.

On March 25 2015 06:24 ritoky wrote:

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Are you mason with onegu?

Your filter has 0 interaction with him whatsoever. In fact you seem to go out of your way to ignore him.

this was where I introduced it, page 303...dunno where exactly that is in game chronology off the top of my head