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On March 20 2015 12:26 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 12:24 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote:
Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day. Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you. This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh Atm I'm not hard town reading him. I have him leaning town but kinda null since you're moving up a little. why does damdred moving up affect vivax moving down?
It just kinda does in my mind. From my perspective it would be likely for at least one scum to push on me there.
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Like it's not the only reason Vivax is moving down. The main reason is because I cannot really remember why I town read him. Like nothing comes to mind that I really liked about the push. The only reason I can remember is because I don't really expect scum to start a direct fight with me.
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On March 20 2015 12:29 Eden1892 wrote:also: Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.
Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?
SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.
So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum. if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred?
Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD.
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FF is town. I've said this already.
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On March 20 2015 12:34 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 12:31 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 12:29 Eden1892 wrote:also: On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.
Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?
SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.
So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum. if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred? Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD. just seems like you would actually vote your primary suspect no? especially when 3 other people were already doing it
Meh? I still like the SL lynch.
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On March 20 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 12:38 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 12:34 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 12:31 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 12:29 Eden1892 wrote:also: On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.
Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?
SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.
So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum. if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred? Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD. just seems like you would actually vote your primary suspect no? especially when 3 other people were already doing it Meh? I still like the SL lynch. more than your top scumread at the time who was also a viable wagon ???
I just woke up at that point? I don't think he was my top scum at the time.
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Like who gives a shit where the vote goes anyway besides EoD? It's just for putting pressure. I don't even think I knew there were that many votes on damd at that point in time.
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No? I thought you were talking about my initial post regarding damdred.
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On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists
Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum.
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I'm about to go to sleep. I'll be here with a scumteam of probably 5 tomorrow.
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I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1.
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On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia
I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet.
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And now you just magically disappear. Wonderful.
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On March 20 2015 13:14 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1. no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that
I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah?
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On March 20 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet. afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query
By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc.
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On March 20 2015 13:21 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:14 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1. no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah? superbia. follow me here man. you're not answering the question. at the time you posted, before anyone could give you feedback on damdred:you said "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?" you also said "sicklucker is kind of meh" you also said "i think there is 1 mafia between them but not 2" given these things why do you not conclude damdred is clearly mafia and sicklucker is not?
Because I was and still am not completely sure on either of them.
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On March 20 2015 13:24 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:17 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet. afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc. ok, i kinda understand the logic here, but i feel like you have to start by finding individuals. and frankly i'm a little worried that this process excuses you from finding individuals
I do find individuals and I do start at individuals, but I usually don't make any final conclusions until EoD where I evaluate the whole day and see how it works out.
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On March 20 2015 13:25 Eden1892 wrote:
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/
And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see.
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Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow.
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On March 20 2015 13:33 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:29 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:25 Eden1892 wrote:
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/ And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see. okay, this is the second time you've made the same logic error. i will explain again. if you make it a third time i will be forced to assume it's deliberate and respond accordingly. all of the following statements were contained in one post:- "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?" - "sicklucker is kind of meh" - "i am relatively certain 1 of them is scum, but i don't think both are" because these were all contained in one post, no one could have given input in-between any of these statements to change your relative certainty that one of them is scum.so taking this at face value, i do not understand why it is that you: - don't firmly conclude damdred is mafia - don't conclude that sicklucker isn't mafia - don't move your vote please explain why this inconsistency exists
Because you think all of these are absolute truths inside my mind. For example, I don't think it's 100% that there's 1 and only 1 between them. This is just a feeling that I got from the interactions between them. It might still be wrong, since damdred later on seemed to re-evaluate SL's alignment. Indicating that he still might be mafia preparing for the bus but hopping off after people seemed to start evaluating SL's alignment.
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