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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 23 2015 07:04 GMT
#5328
If onegu was town who tried to get shot then he shouldnt be so amazed that rsoultin says she put a save on him. So if he claims VT trying to take a bullet im not sure im going to believe it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 23 2015 08:50 GMT
#5337
On March 23 2015 16:09 Breshke wrote:
##VOTE: LightningStrike


On March 23 2015 17:49 Breshke wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote lightningstrike


I'm breaking the system
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 23 2015 10:47 GMT
#5343
I think you are on the lynch list but like near the middle/end of it
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 23 2015 11:02 GMT
#5345
When i say middle/end i mean like 3rd to 5th
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 00:30 GMT
#5744
SL is older than me thats weird
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 00:36 GMT
#5746
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?


Most lukely bullshutting. Dont think its allighnment indicitive for him though
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 00:40 GMT
#5748
On March 24 2015 09:37 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:36 Breshke wrote:
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?


Most lukely bullshutting. Dont think its allighnment indicitive for him though


so you don't believe he has it? what motivation do you think he has for claiming it while not having it? do you have reason to believe he doesn't?


Because he recently talked about how he likes the wifom play. I also believe town SL with the orb would go for gliry and not try pull a roleblock.

Motivation for town SL without orb is to try pull a Rb or nk which is very unlikely.

Motivation for mafia Sl is to make it look like he is tryong to do a play which he says he likes as town.

I can see it either way
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 01:09 GMT
#5752
On March 24 2015 10:05 sicklucker wrote:
Its wrong tho. Town sl trys to confuse and protect town roles I might not even really have the orb and mafia knows it. Its so lovely. They cant rb and kill are cop me and are j/k


Faurly sure they still have 2kp
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 04:26 GMT
#5765
Theres only 17 names on that list who else did LS leave out other than toad?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 04:32 GMT
#5767
On March 24 2015 13:26 Breshke wrote:
Theres only 17 names on that list who else did LS leave out other than toad?


nvm its ve
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 04:57 GMT
#5785
On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:
more people should answer this

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?



you seem to think this is important so i would like to see what you think of it once youve gotten from it what you needed.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 05:37 GMT
#5818
LS seems to ask palmar a lot of questions throughout the day yet never actually comes to a conclusion on him. That is until N1 happens and he seems to be building up to scum read him because of the BM switch

On March 22 2015 00:12 LightningStrike wrote:
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On March 22 2015 00:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 23:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:59 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:49 Vivax wrote:
LS who are your scumreads atm? Palmar and rayn and?

Those are my 100% based on the switches there maybe a 1% chance that Holyflare is Mafia with Onegu even though they claimed Mason but that would be dumb for them to claim Mason so early. Rsoultin said that ExO could be potental Mafia and so did you but I never played with Mafia!ExO yet so I can be wong on ExO's alignment (Shrugs).


You are 100 % sure that Palmar and rayn are scum?

And the other 3? What about me?

100% one of them is Mafia based on switches alone in my mind at least. HF and Onegu is like 1% Mafia but they were under no pressure to claim Mason. Rayn is the unCCed Tracker idk why he claimed at the time he did but he is the unCCed Tracker.


You still didn't say what you think about me now, cause that's important given that I don't know why you see the switching as scummy. Is it scummy to switch from town to town or from mafia to town?

Their reasons for switching is scummy that what I mean -_- Palmar never really mentioned BM in his filter at all and so did Rayn as far I remember reading their filters.


This feels really iffy if they are both mafia because LS wasn't really pushing much else if i recall. I don't remember is LS is prone to bussing either but i do know if palmar is mafia I think he would very likely tell his mafia partners to townread each other and I think LS would listen to him.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 06:05 GMT
#5822
On March 24 2015 14:42 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote:
LS seems to ask palmar a lot of questions throughout the day yet never actually comes to a conclusion on him. That is until N1 happens and he seems to be building up to scum read him because of the BM switch

On March 22 2015 00:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 22 2015 00:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 23:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:59 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:49 Vivax wrote:
LS who are your scumreads atm? Palmar and rayn and?

Those are my 100% based on the switches there maybe a 1% chance that Holyflare is Mafia with Onegu even though they claimed Mason but that would be dumb for them to claim Mason so early. Rsoultin said that ExO could be potental Mafia and so did you but I never played with Mafia!ExO yet so I can be wong on ExO's alignment (Shrugs).


You are 100 % sure that Palmar and rayn are scum?

And the other 3? What about me?

100% one of them is Mafia based on switches alone in my mind at least. HF and Onegu is like 1% Mafia but they were under no pressure to claim Mason. Rayn is the unCCed Tracker idk why he claimed at the time he did but he is the unCCed Tracker.


You still didn't say what you think about me now, cause that's important given that I don't know why you see the switching as scummy. Is it scummy to switch from town to town or from mafia to town?

Their reasons for switching is scummy that what I mean -_- Palmar never really mentioned BM in his filter at all and so did Rayn as far I remember reading their filters.


This feels really iffy if they are both mafia because LS wasn't really pushing much else if i recall. I don't remember is LS is prone to bussing either but i do know if palmar is mafia I think he would very likely tell his mafia partners to townread each other and I think LS would listen to him.

man, if Palmar is mafia, the QT probably looks like the streets of Carthage right now

This is a hella good set of observations. I'd definitely believe that Palmar would tell his team to TR each other; iirc he's big on that in general (he made a big point of it in Titanic scum QT), and he just got finished watching a game where scum bused the fuck out of each other til the end and came up short for it. And I'd also believe LS would do what Palmar says. LS wouldn't be married to any reads by that point and strikes me as a team player.

I'm just worried about what that means for my list. Unless you're mafia spewing tmi right now, I got a big problem to resolve later.


Seems like a weird thing to tmi since even though i think? im at the very very end of the lynch list this would put me in the firing line
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 06:13 GMT
#5828
SL if you have the orb you should be happy with me throwing shit on your claim.

2kp means they can kill and roleblock both roles that still have uses and you if you have the orb
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 06:16 GMT
#5832
On March 24 2015 15:14 Toadesstern wrote:
@Trfel
Why wouldn't he just shut up about it as mafia and point it at the Cop?


this is also true. I forgot the mason and self kill options were taken off
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 06:36 GMT
#5846
I disagree with you but this isn't useful to talk about rso will do what she wants.

SL can you tell me your current reads on these people

Palmar
Superbia
Fecalfeast
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 07:07 GMT
#5864
Okay so this is what has been bugging me about superbia being scum.

So the town consensus is currently that both vigis are town and just for reference most of these posts happened around EoD1

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On March 21 2015 07:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.


On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Stop voting claims jesus. If kp was reduced on vigis when more people joined it could be 2 vigis. We SORT IT OUT AT NIGHT AND MAKE PLANS. D2 is discussion day.

Today we lynch the guy that has done nothing at all. Scum read edej for being 3rd vote (done as town too) un scum read him and then afk'd THE ENTIRE GAME. 3 TIMES WITHOUT RETURNING


HF. Give me a small push more and I'll vote on BM. Are you familiar with his meta? Also what do you think of having a wagon on SL or LS?


On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims


I like where you are at.


On March 21 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody cares about your petty shitty vig claim fight. There's loads of mafia let's kill them


Are you going to strongarm this BM lynch? I've asked multiple times regarding an SL or an LS wagon.
Whatever. It's your fault if BM flips town though.


On March 21 2015 07:35 Superbia wrote:
Just ask yourself this one question:

Where the fuck are SL and LS at? Also Slam?



So for superbia to be mafia he would have to be saying he doesn't want to vote for EITHER of the town vigi's. Instead he would be repetedly suggesting his mafia partners LS or possible partners SL (and for that last quote) slam to be lynched.

I don't see what the point of this play as mafia is. Superbia would have to think that there is zero chance people would listen or take him up on anything he said. which i do not think he believes.

So assuming both the vigis are actually town i'm going to make some of those rpe flip associations everyone loves.

SL superbia and LS can not all be mafia together as superbia would be pushing no agenda Eod. This means there is AT MOST one between SL and superbia. I also find that last quote really strange if superbia slam and LS are all mafia together because it feels super risky for no reason because there's two "town vigis" that people were happy to lynch between but instead superbia pushes on 2 people with a mini push on another and we are meant to think that 2/3 of these people are his mafia partners. It just seems like such an odd risky play.

Not sure if this makes sense btw so if anything needs clarifying ask away
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 08:00 GMT
#5868
There was one vote difference between one of the vigies and BM so i dont think you can say no one was interested in lynching one of them.

On March 24 2015 16:36 Toadesstern wrote:
I don't think the "pushing no agenda EoD" part means anything if the three possible lynches are all town. You just don't have to push any agenda as mafia in that situation and do whatever you think will make you look the best.
The lynch was between Vivax / Toad / BM at that time and I'd think a veteran mafia player would be smart enough to figure that out and just bus to look good because the bus isn't happening anyways with how fast the thread was going at that time.

I don't think superbia is that kind of player so it does indeed make him look a bit better. Not sure how much though. If we go with Rayn as mafia I could easily see him point that out to his buddies and just tell everyone to make whatever it takes to look good later in the game because the lynch is just between those 3 anyways.


I understand what you are saying about not having to push an agenda as that was looking back what LS was doing and i half noticed it at the time. But superbia wasn't not pushing an agenda he was pushing two people, SL and LS. I just feel like it is a bad play if you start pushing people to "look good later" because it would actually make you look bad if you dont keep pushing them in the next phases.

Of course I realize this is mostly irrelevant because if SL is town superbias play as mafia at EoD makes some sense.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 08:03 GMT
#5869
Also this has probably been mentioned but if onegus mason partner isnt eden, trefel or maybe artanis im all for lynching him tomorrow
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 24 2015 10:34 GMT
#5890
im surely below onegu. I want to be a power bottom
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