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On March 19 2015 11:17 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 11:14 sicklucker wrote:On March 19 2015 11:11 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 11:06 sicklucker wrote:On February 19 2015 09:00 Eden1892 wrote: hi guys im a miller This was edens first post in are mafia game together. In a previous game as town he did the same. Here he tried to copy it but failed. Town thought it was a joke but I didnt. In that game there was no miller or he was unaware . Alot of people brushed it off as a joke but I thought it was him trying to mimic his town play. so wait... are you saying he did it three times now? Once as town and once as mafia before this? How do you make the difference between him making it as town and him making it as mafia, like the game you were together with? Because the second time he did it was the game after his first one. When your mafia the first thing you think of is "what would I do as town here" Well he just did it as town so now that hes mafia he has to do the same thing right? wat? Are you reading him as mafia because he's usually doing what you're talking about as mafia? Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 11:15 Superbia wrote:No j/k, you're not getting townread for that. Thanks though. ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) the joke was that I said I'm concentrating 100% to make it only 2 lines only to have it be 3 lines if a stupid "that is all" at the end ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
I only take whitespace into account. Looked like a two liner to me!
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On March 19 2015 11:17 sicklucker wrote: Well If I were mafia I already said slam would bus me. Dandred is weird for not tunneling me. Palmer, artanis and toad seem to be ignoring me
HF is ignoring you. What you think about that?
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On March 19 2015 11:19 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 11:19 Superbia wrote:On March 19 2015 11:17 sicklucker wrote: Well If I were mafia I already said slam would bus me. Dandred is weird for not tunneling me. Palmer, artanis and toad seem to be ignoring me HF is ignoring you. What you think about that? No hes not hes even voting me?
He hasn't said a word about your list even though he specifically asked for it. In fact, no one really commented about your "reads". You really don't seem to care, however. You know what happens when a townie's reads get ignored? That townie gets mad.
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Onegu are you hard claiming mason? This might change a few of my circles.
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On March 19 2015 11:31 sicklucker wrote: Scumteam is like dandred, slam ,super toad, palmer .maybe eden
This team is probably 1 FF away from the worst scum team nomination of 2015.
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Well at least you didn't forget your slam hard-scum read.
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So much reminiscing. Miss the times when you were town?
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Why are people actually voting Eden?
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On March 19 2015 11:55 Trfel wrote: Ok, I need to go to sleep.
Leaning town on rsoultin, Eden, and Alakaslam so far. Holyflare would also be a townlean, but I'm not sure what to make of his early interactions with Alakaslam, once I finish reading I'll probably ask a few questions to get this sorted out.
Sicklucker could very well be scum, but I have some reasons for doubt. Notably that he's been more active, and the point that Toadesstern brought up about one of the reasons he is being scumread actually being not alignment indicative. I need to look into sicklucker more tomorrow.
That's it?
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Yo. Real quick, damdred is probable scum. I haven't really evaluated Vivax's alignment yet, though the whole thing looks pretty meh? I was never angry? I was having fun playing the game. Like Vivax, you even hinted to my scum game, why aren't you drawing any parallels?
So, Damdred. Our reads have lined up pretty well, as can be told from my filter. We both had HF and Palmar as town early on. And Damdred had SL and trfel as scum. I was burying SL pretty hard yesterday (admittedly, maybe a bit too hard, but let's see what he brings today) and I was pushing on trfel, who you had as scum and according to your filter, were very unsure of. How is me pushing on trfel a scummy thing when you were leaning scum on him around the same time?
Why isn't the thought process "well, I was scum-leaning on trfel as well, so I guess I can see where he's coming from"? Instead it is "trfel is town. Super pushed on him in a "dickish" way. He must be mafia". What? This doesn't line up at all with what is supposed to be your thought process. Why do we have similar reads if I'm mafia? Why am I burying SL so hard if, according to your world, we're mafia together?
Btw. I was never angry. That is such fabricated nonsense.
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On March 19 2015 22:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 22:38 Superbia wrote: Yo. Real quick, damdred is probable scum. I haven't really evaluated Vivax's alignment yet, though the whole thing looks pretty meh? I was never angry? I was having fun playing the game. Like Vivax, you even hinted to my scum game, why aren't you drawing any parallels?
So, Damdred. Our reads have lined up pretty well, as can be told from my filter. We both had HF and Palmar as town early on. And Damdred had SL and trfel as scum. I was burying SL pretty hard yesterday (admittedly, maybe a bit too hard, but let's see what he brings today) and I was pushing on trfel, who you had as scum and according to your filter, were very unsure of. How is me pushing on trfel a scummy thing when you were leaning scum on him around the same time?
Why isn't the thought process "well, I was scum-leaning on trfel as well, so I guess I can see where he's coming from"? Instead it is "trfel is town. Super pushed on him in a "dickish" way. He must be mafia". What? This doesn't line up at all with what is supposed to be your thought process. Why do we have similar reads if I'm mafia? Why am I burying SL so hard if, according to your world, we're mafia together?
Btw. I was never angry. That is such fabricated nonsense. Saying you're angry didn't come from me. However your approach to questioning people does seem overly intonated, so to say, without a followup that reflects the same mood. Briefly summarized, which looks like you try to make your posts sound more meaningful than your followup suggests it is to you. Here's an example: Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:19 Superbia wrote: Also I kind of rescind on the trfel thing. I actually did not read the context fully, and was not aware he was answering the whole "why are you specifying it to 4 or 5" thing. Was reading it out of context. Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:54 Superbia wrote:On March 19 2015 10:52 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:49 Fecalfeast wrote: am I wrong or did eden fakeclaim miller? I think there's a very reasonable chance it's a joke. Though of course you are right that if Eden is in fact a miller, he wouldn't know. Claiming unaware miller is something I was planning on doing eventually. Actually, I would have done that this game, but I forgot and claimed mafia instead. Why are you defending trfel? What are you with my TWO(!) 30m passes? After yours and Eden's post on Trfel HF and Artanis disagreed with the two of you. You rescinded, yet your focus seems to be almost entirely on Trfel for the scumclaim, as you call him out for defending Eden post-miller-fakeclaim. It's like you decided that the scumclaim made him look bad and then decided to keep going after him for other reasons. All the while you seem to not want to give Eden a read (unless I missed something?) even though you both mindmelded on Trfel, he fakeclaimed miller and later you asked why people are voting for him, so clearly you're thinking something about Eden you didn't tell to the thread yet. So, what would your read on Eden be?
I like to put emotions in my posts, especially if they're short. This is not really alignment indicative (if any it's more indicative of my townplay).
This:
[quote]Briefly summarized, which looks like you try to make your posts sound more meaningful than your followup suggests it is to you.[/unquote]
is a whole bunch of wat to me. I'm not even sure what alignment your mindset is to reach this conclusion. I do like to blend in jokes and serious questions from time to time, but does that make me mafia? I sincerely doubt it. If anything, I would be more consistently serious as mafia. This is about as best an answer you're going to get from me on this.
I rescinded on Trfel because I obviously read the context of his answer wrong. I saw a whole bunch of text analyzing and justifying how many mafia are in the game according to him, and my alarm bells went off instantly and I acted upon it. When I first read the post I actually thought he was justifying asking how many mafia were in the game.
With the whole trfel defending eden thing I was only partially considering eden (for a slight moment), but I was more curious as to why trfel felt the need to defend eden at that point in time. It felt like it could be mafia trying to score some easy townpoints or something. Felt kinda off to me.
Also, Eden is town.
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On March 19 2015 22:49 Damdred wrote: I do love it when people get upset towards me and call me scum when I put them in my scum lost this early. It gives me warm tinglies
It doesn't line up. You should be reading me town purely based on us having similar reads throughout the game. The fact that you don't know this but are still willing to call me mafia is alarming.
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On March 19 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote: Super what I don't get is your opinion on the fake miller claim at the time. If you found it scummy then it warrants that question to Trfel, but judging from your posting you didn't even deem it comment-worthy. You jump at Trfel for suggesting that the claim is a joke even though for you that didn't seem to be an issue.
Did you at any point in time think that Eden was mafia who made a blooper when fakeclaiming?
I disagree. I think it was interesting, but I could see the fake-claim coming from either alignment. I thought trfel's hard defense was much more interesting. I was wondering why he was willing to defend eden like that. In retrospect I actually completely forgot about it. Looking at his filter now it seems like he seemed unsure about eden prior to FF bringing up the fake claim. Which makes the hard defend more strange. Trfel, any input on this?
Also I hesistated on Eden for a slight moment when FF came out with the info, as I said before. As it stands, I think my town read on Eden still holds somewhat solid.
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On March 19 2015 23:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:21 Superbia wrote:On March 19 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote: Super what I don't get is your opinion on the fake miller claim at the time. If you found it scummy then it warrants that question to Trfel, but judging from your posting you didn't even deem it comment-worthy. You jump at Trfel for suggesting that the claim is a joke even though for you that didn't seem to be an issue.
Did you at any point in time think that Eden was mafia who made a blooper when fakeclaiming? I disagree. I think it was interesting, but I could see the fake-claim coming from either alignment. I thought trfel's hard defense was much more interesting. I was wondering why he was willing to defend eden like that. In retrospect I actually completely forgot about it. Looking at his filter now it seems like he seemed unsure about eden prior to FF bringing up the fake claim. Which makes the hard defend more strange. Trfel, any input on this? Also I hesistated on Eden for a slight moment when FF came out with the info, as I said before. As it stands, I think my town read on Eden still holds somewhat solid. Then why call Trfel out and call his post a defense when he simply shared your own opinion? Gotcha ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
What?
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Because trfel felt the need to voice a defense of Eden rather than let Eden speak on his own?
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Like whatever, I'm done pussyfooting around this. RSO, are you masoned with Eden or what?
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On March 19 2015 23:49 Vivax wrote: Anyway I gtg. Some good soul explain to super why he's scum in the meantime.
No. You're going to explain to me in person why I'm mafia.
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On March 19 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:49 Superbia wrote: Like whatever, I'm done pussyfooting around this. RSO, are you masoned with Eden or what? nope lol eden's good at reading my tone xP almost completely because he coached me and then the next 3 games we rolled together one of us was scum ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) in all honesty though, i'm probably one of the easiest tonereads in the game when people don't get too paranoid about me lol which is why i take a lot longer to read eden than the other way around
Are you serious? Like you guys were softing it so fucking hard.
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On March 20 2015 00:02 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:55 Superbia wrote:On March 19 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 23:49 Superbia wrote: Like whatever, I'm done pussyfooting around this. RSO, are you masoned with Eden or what? nope lol eden's good at reading my tone xP almost completely because he coached me and then the next 3 games we rolled together one of us was scum ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) in all honesty though, i'm probably one of the easiest tonereads in the game when people don't get too paranoid about me lol which is why i take a lot longer to read eden than the other way around Are you serious? Like you guys were softing it so fucking hard. and you caaaare (or think we'd be behaving this way in-thread) becaaaauuuuse? like seriously why is this even important to you? lol i've also started talking to truffle and LS as if they're basically confirmed town cause in my mind they are ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) maybe i'm a mason with them too >> world of masons!
Because I read you both as town because I thought you were masons. Eden is probably still town for sharing my thoughts, but I'm still somewhat unsure about you.
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Palmar, what are your quick thoughts so far?
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