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On March 26 2015 23:43 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I want you lynched a lot more than him but if only Artanis is voting you there's not really a point in putting my vote there So, you think I'm scum?
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On March 26 2015 23:46 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:45 Toadesstern wrote:On March 26 2015 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I want you lynched a lot more than him but if only Artanis is voting you there's not really a point in putting my vote there So, you think I'm scum? yes Why.
Mostly PoE, seconly you going after me with bullshit reasoning and going after Artanis afterwards thus:On March 25 2015 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
so Onegu at 3 votes, Slam at 4 votes with me now, Artanis at 1.
Can we lynch superbia after all for voting Artanis?
I'd probably still like ritoky lynch the most, I just can't see rayn being town in this game. Palmar flipping red (who would have thought) who hard pushed me through all of d1 only makes rayn more juicy imo because he's done the same thing.
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That being said if we ignore the whole point of what people I don't like are voting I still think I like Onegu lynch the most.
I just don't see how him trying to draw shots at all which is the only possible explanation for his fakeclaim as town.
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On March 26 2015 23:51 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:49 Toadesstern wrote:On March 26 2015 23:46 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:45 Toadesstern wrote:On March 26 2015 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I want you lynched a lot more than him but if only Artanis is voting you there's not really a point in putting my vote there So, you think I'm scum? yes Why. Mostly PoE, seconly you going after me with bullshit reasoning and going after Artanis afterwards thus: On March 25 2015 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
so Onegu at 3 votes, Slam at 4 votes with me now, Artanis at 1.
Can we lynch superbia after all for voting Artanis?
I'd probably still like ritoky lynch the most, I just can't see rayn being town in this game. Palmar flipping red (who would have thought) who hard pushed me through all of d1 only makes rayn more juicy imo because he's done the same thing. I went after you with bullshit reasoning? What's the PoE? What are your circles?
hasn't changed all that much since last update:
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Breshke is not actually as "yellow" as the other yellow ones but I didn't want to get another color in there just for him
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On March 26 2015 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Toad, you should go through Palmar's filter and check out his interactions with Rayn. I think it makes it pretty unlikely the Rayn slot is scum.
did Palmar do something besides shitting on me during the game? Fine, I'll take a look
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On March 26 2015 23:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I also think Breshke is significantly less likely to flip scum as slam/superbia/fecal/onegu given Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 10:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay after checking Breshke's scumgames he seems much more aggressive in them, calling people out and being very certain of himself which is in contrast to both his last two towngames and this game so he goes into townpile.
this time I ninja'd you!
Yeah agree, he's way less likely to be mafia but I didn't want to call him a null (white) and I didn't want to make another colour when I already got yellow, orange and red so I just added that myself 
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Palmar/rayn interactions make it somewhat more unlikely for rayn be town but he never put his vote where his mouth was, even when there were times when rayn looked like a possible lynch such as:On March 20 2015 14:10 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1: Current Vote Countraynpelikoneet (3): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin Damdred (3): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp] sicklucker (3): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke Eden1892 (2): Fecalfeast, Onegu, Bill Murray, ExO Artanis[Xp] (1): Toadesstern, Eden1892LightningStrike (2): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast Toadesstern (1): Palmar, Artanis[Xp]Superbia (1): Eden1892 VisceraEyes (0): Artanis[Xp]Alakaslam (0): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892ExO_ (0): Eden1892Palmar (0): Toadesstern, Toadesstern, Bill MurrayTrfel (0): Artanis, Superbia, Eden1892Holyflare (0): AlakaslamVivax (0): HolyflareNot Voting (4): Vivax, LightningStrike, Trfel, VisceraEyes Currently, raynpelikoneet is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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but you're right. He's no longer orange. Probably compareable to Breshke right.
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On March 27 2015 00:07 Toadesstern wrote:Palmar/rayn interactions make it somewhat more unlikely for rayn be town but he never put his vote where his mouth was, even when there were times when rayn looked like a possible lynch such as: Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 14:10 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1: Current Vote Countraynpelikoneet (3): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin Damdred (3): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp] sicklucker (3): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke Eden1892 (2): Fecalfeast, Onegu, Bill Murray, ExO Artanis[Xp] (1): Toadesstern, Eden1892LightningStrike (2): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast Toadesstern (1): Palmar, Artanis[Xp]Superbia (1): Eden1892 VisceraEyes (0): Artanis[Xp]Alakaslam (0): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892ExO_ (0): Eden1892Palmar (0): Toadesstern, Toadesstern, Bill MurrayTrfel (0): Artanis, Superbia, Eden1892Holyflare (0): AlakaslamVivax (0): HolyflareNot Voting (4): Vivax, LightningStrike, Trfel, VisceraEyes Currently, raynpelikoneet is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. but you're right. He's no longer orange. Probably compareable to Breshke right.
EBWOP unlikely = likely
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I was honestly starting to like Slam in the last 12 or so hours as well as the first 12 hours. He looked really bad inbetween, for example last day and when he told people to lynch him like he already gave up. Today it looked like townslam.
That's what I meant with I need more time to read Slam... I'm just not sure at all about him. I'm seeing what I consider to be both of his alignments from time to time
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On March 27 2015 00:35 Superbia wrote:
One of the problems I (and many others) had with Slam is that he started off this game very serious after having a very loose and "chupazi" pregame. I also know that this would be his 3rd (?) mafia in a row, after the previous game hosted by HtS (where he rolled mafia for the second time after a reroll). I don't honestly know why Slam has felt so bitter this game, it kind of makes me feel bad if I read him scum (which I think he very well could be).
thing is, he has stated multiple times that he wants to get lynched and wants to give up and yet has come back in the thread posting like he doesn't give a fuck about what people are saying about him. Especially in the conversation he had.
He doesn't strike me as someone who fakes emotions as mafia at all. If he's angry he's angry. Getting a sack of sleep and comming back rejuvenated to some degree that he can just do his thing without caring all too much actually makes sense.
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EBWOP Especially in the most recent conversation he had.
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On March 27 2015 01:11 Trfel wrote:
No thoughts on what I posted about Onegu?
I'm already voting him
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On March 27 2015 01:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually you explained it at the top of the page, nvm.
I just have trouble imagining a scumteam that doesn't involve slam simply through poe.
yeah that's my idea about it as well
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On March 27 2015 00:07 Toadesstern wrote:Palmar/rayn interactions make it somewhat more unlikely for rayn be town but he never put his vote where his mouth was, even when there were times when rayn looked like a possible lynch such as: Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 14:10 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1: Current Vote Countraynpelikoneet (3): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin Damdred (3): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp] sicklucker (3): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke Eden1892 (2): Fecalfeast, Onegu, Bill Murray, ExO Artanis[Xp] (1): Toadesstern, Eden1892LightningStrike (2): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast Toadesstern (1): Palmar, Artanis[Xp]Superbia (1): Eden1892 VisceraEyes (0): Artanis[Xp]Alakaslam (0): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892ExO_ (0): Eden1892Palmar (0): Toadesstern, Toadesstern, Bill MurrayTrfel (0): Artanis, Superbia, Eden1892Holyflare (0): AlakaslamVivax (0): HolyflareNot Voting (4): Vivax, LightningStrike, Trfel, VisceraEyes Currently, raynpelikoneet is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. but you're right. He's no longer orange. Probably compareable to Breshke right.
lesson learned: make your posts more pretty for people to care about them
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and the unlikely was ebwop'ed into a likely, should have changed that while quoting...
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On March 27 2015 02:28 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 00:44 Trfel wrote:I already stated why I don't think that Onegu fake-claiming mason is something that is bad for mafia to do. Therefore, I am inclined to think that Onegu is scum for the following reasons: - At the start of Day 2, Onegu says that mafia wouldn't double stack due to the possibility of a medic. However, 23 minutes later, he says that rsoultin is mafia for making a weird save, when due to the large number of other claimed blues, the mafia would never have done a medic dodge.
- Onegu's scumread on rsoultin doesn't make much sense. This read is conditional on one of the vigilantes being mafia. Onegu indirectly states that Toadesstern is mafia (through quoting one of raynpelikoneet's posts), but never really pushes Toadesstern at all. I would expect town to push Toadesstern first, and then rsoultin second (especially given that Toadesstern used his bullet, and rsoultin is claimed jailkeeper).
- Onegu says that raynpelikoneet's tracker claim is genuine, but knows that raynpelikoneet always fake-claims. This is a weak point, though.
- Apparently Onegu has a soul read on raynpelikoneet, so I can't really scumread him for fake-claiming mason with him, despite the large amount of confusion this caused. However, before the mason claim, Onegu never really defended raynpelikoneet, despite the pressure he was under. After the mason claim, Onegu didn't defend raynpelikoneet until significantly later. If Onegu was confident enough in raynpelikoneet being town, he should have defended him after raynpelikoneet stated that he was tracker, and not mason. If Onegu didn't think it was worth defending raynpelikoneet until later, when he actually did start defending him, then he should have claimed mason then instead. The disconnect between claiming mason with raynpelikoneet and actually defending him doesn't make sense to me.
However, I'm not sure if he will be back before the deadline. And with his son recently having gone through surgery, today is the very worst day to push him. Although objectively, I think he is the best lynch, I am not sure if pushing him today is the best idea. It's dumb to double stack in a large game period. A lot of my reads are gut based. Doesn't matter how I got to them not a scum tell thought a non tracker Rayn would go with my mason claimDidn't read rayn's filter until then so I didn't have my soul read on him until then
so you knew from the start that Rayn was fakeclaiming, as a result claimed mason buddy with rayn because you thought he'd go along. Then faked your read on him as well as your mafia read on me based on "Rayn is telling the truth, so you or Vivax have to be fakeclaiming" ?
Am I understanding this correctly?
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I think I've found my lynch for today
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On March 27 2015 02:35 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:On March 27 2015 02:28 Onegu wrote:On March 27 2015 00:44 Trfel wrote:I already stated why I don't think that Onegu fake-claiming mason is something that is bad for mafia to do. Therefore, I am inclined to think that Onegu is scum for the following reasons: - At the start of Day 2, Onegu says that mafia wouldn't double stack due to the possibility of a medic. However, 23 minutes later, he says that rsoultin is mafia for making a weird save, when due to the large number of other claimed blues, the mafia would never have done a medic dodge.
- Onegu's scumread on rsoultin doesn't make much sense. This read is conditional on one of the vigilantes being mafia. Onegu indirectly states that Toadesstern is mafia (through quoting one of raynpelikoneet's posts), but never really pushes Toadesstern at all. I would expect town to push Toadesstern first, and then rsoultin second (especially given that Toadesstern used his bullet, and rsoultin is claimed jailkeeper).
- Onegu says that raynpelikoneet's tracker claim is genuine, but knows that raynpelikoneet always fake-claims. This is a weak point, though.
- Apparently Onegu has a soul read on raynpelikoneet, so I can't really scumread him for fake-claiming mason with him, despite the large amount of confusion this caused. However, before the mason claim, Onegu never really defended raynpelikoneet, despite the pressure he was under. After the mason claim, Onegu didn't defend raynpelikoneet until significantly later. If Onegu was confident enough in raynpelikoneet being town, he should have defended him after raynpelikoneet stated that he was tracker, and not mason. If Onegu didn't think it was worth defending raynpelikoneet until later, when he actually did start defending him, then he should have claimed mason then instead. The disconnect between claiming mason with raynpelikoneet and actually defending him doesn't make sense to me.
However, I'm not sure if he will be back before the deadline. And with his son recently having gone through surgery, today is the very worst day to push him. Although objectively, I think he is the best lynch, I am not sure if pushing him today is the best idea. It's dumb to double stack in a large game period. A lot of my reads are gut based. Doesn't matter how I got to them not a scum tell thought a non tracker Rayn would go with my mason claimDidn't read rayn's filter until then so I didn't have my soul read on him until then so you knew from the start that Rayn was fakeclaiming, as a result claimed mason buddy with rayn because you thought he'd go along. Then faked your read on him as well as your mafia read on me based on "Rayn is telling the truth, so you or Vivax have to be fakeclaiming" ? Am I understanding this correctly? Wait what. Did Onegu base his reads on us on the premise that he and rayn are masons?
no but he was talking about how genuine his claim was and how he believed it if I'm not mixing him up with someone else right now... lemme look that up real quick
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