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On March 26 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 22:53 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:48 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:44 Superbia wrote:
Are you willing to get lynched if I flip town? Like no fucking bullshit. I am perfectly willing to flip if it means you're going to get 100% lynched. Why the fuck would I agree to that? I don't know the alignments for sure. I could be wrong. You're trying to create some kind of false dichotomy here. I'm pretty confident you're the sleeper scum in this game. Good argumentation. I have already given my argumentation. And I have rebutted all of it, which you haven't replied to.
I just fucking did. Your one line response that "it indicates that [my](Art) reads are fluid" is such utter nonsense. The response that it is "townie" to flip hard between people's alignment is nonsense. There is a good reason if you're town as to why you're reading people scummy, and if you read someone scum at any point during the game, this fucking nags you until they are confirmed via a flip or whatever. Like in no fucking world do you switch your reads around that easily, ESPECIALLY on Vivax PRE-NIGHTFLIPS. Absolute nonsense. No world in which you are town.
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On March 26 2015 22:58 Damdred wrote:
I had a bit to drink last night was great hehe...
Anyway trying to remember the point I had, I believe bh balanced his game around the fact the vig had to survive a night and another day to be able to shoot. I'm not sure but 25 person game had two extra pr than we do so I actually still like what we have
also super you tried to bus me while I was hitting you with a fleet of busses
Dude I bus hard as scum, I'm not trying to argue that. It's the fact that he's pussyfooting around meta-reading me that's annoying me.
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On March 26 2015 22:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're also focussing on a microcosm of the case when it's much bigger, plus you're ignoring my explanations for my actions. It seems like you're looking for a reason to tunnel on me.
Your explanation doesn't cover your actions. To be honest, I don't think any explanation would cover your actions. It's because your actions are not townie, they're scummy.
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On March 26 2015 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 22:58 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:53 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:48 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:44 Superbia wrote:
Are you willing to get lynched if I flip town? Like no fucking bullshit. I am perfectly willing to flip if it means you're going to get 100% lynched. Why the fuck would I agree to that? I don't know the alignments for sure. I could be wrong. You're trying to create some kind of false dichotomy here. I'm pretty confident you're the sleeper scum in this game. Good argumentation. I have already given my argumentation. And I have rebutted all of it, which you haven't replied to. I just fucking did. Your one line response that "it indicates that [my](Art) reads are fluid" is such utter nonsense. The response that it is "townie" to flip hard between people's alignment is nonsense. There is a good reason if you're town as to why you're reading people scummy, and if you read someone scum at any point during the game, this fucking nags you until they are confirmed via a flip or whatever. Like in no fucking world do you switch your reads around that easily, ESPECIALLY on Vivax PRE-NIGHTFLIPS. Absolute nonsense. No world in which you are town. Okay, why don't you go through my mafia games and point out to me where I flip hard on people by my own accord, then go through my town games and do the same? I'm very curious to see what you'll find.
The fact that you have been fully aware of your mafia meta means that meta is going to mean so fucking little. You flipping mafia in Imperial was completely unexpected for everyone, right? That means that you are fully able to make changes to your meta.
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On March 26 2015 23:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:01 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're also focussing on a microcosm of the case when it's much bigger, plus you're ignoring my explanations for my actions. It seems like you're looking for a reason to tunnel on me. Your explanation doesn't cover your actions. To be honest, I don't think any explanation would cover your actions. It's because your actions are not townie, they're scummy. No matter how many times you say this, it doesn't make it true.
It was already true. My delivery is irrelevant.
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On March 26 2015 23:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:03 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:58 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:53 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:48 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 22:44 Superbia wrote:
Are you willing to get lynched if I flip town? Like no fucking bullshit. I am perfectly willing to flip if it means you're going to get 100% lynched. Why the fuck would I agree to that? I don't know the alignments for sure. I could be wrong. You're trying to create some kind of false dichotomy here. I'm pretty confident you're the sleeper scum in this game. Good argumentation. I have already given my argumentation. And I have rebutted all of it, which you haven't replied to. I just fucking did. Your one line response that "it indicates that [my](Art) reads are fluid" is such utter nonsense. The response that it is "townie" to flip hard between people's alignment is nonsense. There is a good reason if you're town as to why you're reading people scummy, and if you read someone scum at any point during the game, this fucking nags you until they are confirmed via a flip or whatever. Like in no fucking world do you switch your reads around that easily, ESPECIALLY on Vivax PRE-NIGHTFLIPS. Absolute nonsense. No world in which you are town. Okay, why don't you go through my mafia games and point out to me where I flip hard on people by my own accord, then go through my town games and do the same? I'm very curious to see what you'll find. The fact that you have been fully aware of your mafia meta means that meta is going to mean so fucking little. You flipping mafia in Imperial was completely unexpected for everyone, right? That means that you are fully able to make changes to your meta. Yeah, I can drastically change my mafia meta to go from being one of the worst mafia players to having one good mafia game to rolling mafia for the third time in four games and then playing EVEN BETTER AND COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. That makes much sense.
Link me to these four games.
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On March 26 2015 23:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
"You're scum because you change your opinions at the drop of a hat!"
"I normally do that as town."
"Okay, you're scum because you're doing something you do as town!"
-Superbia logic
This is such a blatant misrepresentation of my arguments and you know it.
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On March 26 2015 23:06 Damdred wrote:
Do you scumread me for my flip on vivax superbia
Just checked your filter rq and you were already on board with Vivax being possible vig before EoD1. Completely different.
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On March 26 2015 23:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:07 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
"You're scum because you change your opinions at the drop of a hat!"
"I normally do that as town."
"Okay, you're scum because you're doing something you do as town!"
-Superbia logic This is such a blatant misrepresentation of my arguments and you know it. It's really not. You're claiming because I'm aware of it it means it still makes me mafia when if it's true that I do it as town (and I'm quite sure it is) it can only be null at worst.
No, I'm saying that because your argument is "I normally do that as town" or "I normally do y instead of x as mafia" the argument is by definition WIFOM.
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On March 26 2015 23:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also saying any meta read is unreliable if you're aware of it is a terrible argument. Some meta can be replicated (e.g. the decision to bus or not). Some things are just general town traits for someone, like being able to post carefree, being able to post a lot or being able to change your reads very dynamically.
At any point giving the defense "that's my townplay!" is a terrible defense. I'm reading your Imperial filter.
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I want to know where people stand between me and Art.
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On March 26 2015 23:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Weren't you reading Imperial? Did you reach any conclusion or couldn't you find anything?
I've half reached a conclusion.
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On March 26 2015 23:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I want you lynched a lot more than him but if only Artanis is voting you there's not really a point in putting my vote there
So, you think I'm scum?
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On March 26 2015 23:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:42 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Weren't you reading Imperial? Did you reach any conclusion or couldn't you find anything? I've half reached a conclusion. I'm dying of anticipation.
I wanted to see where people were standing first but I guess it doesn't matter, I may be wrong on you being scum.
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On March 26 2015 23:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I want you lynched a lot more than him but if only Artanis is voting you there's not really a point in putting my vote there So, you think I'm scum? yes
Why.
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On March 26 2015 23:49 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:46 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:45 Toadesstern wrote:On March 26 2015 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I want you lynched a lot more than him but if only Artanis is voting you there's not really a point in putting my vote there So, you think I'm scum? yes Why. Mostly PoE, seconly you going after me with bullshit reasoning and going after Artanis afterwards thus: Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 20:13 Toadesstern wrote:
so Onegu at 3 votes, Slam at 4 votes with me now, Artanis at 1.
Can we lynch superbia after all for voting Artanis?
I'd probably still like ritoky lynch the most, I just can't see rayn being town in this game. Palmar flipping red (who would have thought) who hard pushed me through all of d1 only makes rayn more juicy imo because he's done the same thing.
I went after you with bullshit reasoning? What's the PoE? What are your circles?
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On March 26 2015 23:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I was actually hoping he'd go after me harder. That'd make me feel better about lynching him.
Come at me and this might still happen. I'd press the lynch button you in final 3 every time.
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On March 26 2015 23:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:52 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I was actually hoping he'd go after me harder. That'd make me feel better about lynching him. Come at me and this might still happen. I'd press the lynch button you in final 3 every time. I already came at you, the case is still up. I want to know why you started having doubts.
I'm not going to respond to the case anymore than I already have. I have little time as it is, and would probably spend it on filter diving or interacting instead.
I started having doubts after I saw how you, as mafia, interact with town, specifically when lynching them. Moreover, how you react to cases made on you.
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On March 26 2015 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 23:56 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 26 2015 23:52 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2015 23:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I was actually hoping he'd go after me harder. That'd make me feel better about lynching him. Come at me and this might still happen. I'd press the lynch button you in final 3 every time. I already came at you, the case is still up. I want to know why you started having doubts. I'm not going to respond to the case anymore than I already have. I have little time as it is, and would probably spend it on filter diving or interacting instead. I started having doubts after I saw how you, as mafia, interact with town, specifically when lynching them. Moreover, how you react to cases made on you. So who do you want to lynch now?
Obi would be on my dick for this, but probably Onegu. Partially for the info. Like if he flips scum rayn is probably town.
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On March 27 2015 00:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 00:07 sicklucker wrote:
but did he do it on day1 artanis? rayn would never bus his whole team day1 It doesn't matter if you bus your entire team on D1 or one on D1 and one on D2, which I believe he did (could be D3). Bussed JAT on D1 and Onegu on D2/D3. Also, Superbia, I saw that Fecal played his one scumgame with you. Did you play any towngames with him too and did you pick up anything on him?
Yeah, one of his scum-tells is that he is serious from the get-go. As town he is carefree and having fun. He was having fun when he came into the thread, hence why I have him as town.
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