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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 20:43 GMT
#7874
On March 30 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky?


we have been over this twice before lol. the basics are fake claim = town confusion = good for mafia = mafia motivations.



Not all fake claims are bad. I mean seriously. It didn't quite accomplish what I wanted but in a world where SL doesn't get the orb he still becomes almost confirmed town with how he reacted to HF being my mason partner. And I don't think it was that confusing plus I drew a mafia shot, how is that not good for town?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 20:47 GMT
#7878
On March 30 2015 05:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Here's where Breshke voted for Onegu:
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On March 27 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
he argument between artanis and superbia made superbia look worse because i understood what artanis was saying whereas I had no idea wtf superbia was trying to say/do. That being said superbia should still not be lynched today.

Im down for lynching onegu or slam maybe FF but not theres a reason id rather not explain why that is bad this phase.

The people who say slam could be mafia but we shouldnt lynch him and just sort him out with the orb arn't really thinking it through because the orb has a 50% chance to do nothing if slam knows he is going to be orbed and you can literally say the same thing about anyone else you push on.

##Vote Onegu


The single post he made in between:
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On March 27 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
On March 27 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
On March 27 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
he argument between artanis and superbia made superbia look worse because i understood what artanis was saying whereas I had no idea wtf superbia was trying to say/do. That being said superbia should still not be lynched today.

Im down for lynching onegu or slam maybe FF but not theres a reason id rather not explain why that is bad this phase.

The people who say slam could be mafia but we shouldnt lynch him and just sort him out with the orb arn't really thinking it through because the orb has a 50% chance to do nothing if slam knows he is going to be orbed and you can literally say the same thing about anyone else you push on.

##Vote Onegu



Sorry you have to change your vote as I cannot self vote


urgh i forgot you rng'd me to sheep you asking where i am then voting me makes so much more sense now urgjsdz'gds


Post after which he votes for Slam:
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On March 27 2015 07:13 Breshke wrote:
On March 27 2015 03:05 Onegu wrote:
On March 27 2015 02:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Toad is real vig and deserves more sheep than anyome



God I hope breshke votes you. My formula is real. Eden didn't do the math right as it 5+3 as what needs multiplied not just 5 as you use more chupazi, svengali, and hijole in the start and less as the game goes on. But it's still negative which makes you scum.


Onegu i forgot you rng to sheep me.

This post was weird as fuck because you say you want me to vote slam which makes me think you thought i was town then you vote me. I forgot about the sheep thing. Im switching to slam


It seems Breshke voted for Onegu because Onegu voted for Breshke, which I think he did since he said he'd sheep Breshke and Breshke hadn't voted anyone yet. I still find the whole situation really weird though and I want Breshke to explain wtf was going on and why he switched to Onegu and then to Slam. I also want to know from Onegu if my supposed reason for his Breshke vote is correct.


This is correct I was reminded of vote and If something came up I wanted my vote someone and since i rng'd him I put my vote there until he voted.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 20:49 GMT
#7881
On March 30 2015 05:44 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 05:43 Onegu wrote:
On March 30 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:
On March 30 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky?


we have been over this twice before lol. the basics are fake claim = town confusion = good for mafia = mafia motivations.



Not all fake claims are bad. I mean seriously. It didn't quite accomplish what I wanted but in a world where SL doesn't get the orb he still becomes almost confirmed town with how he reacted to HF being my mason partner. And I don't think it was that confusing plus I drew a mafia shot, how is that not good for town?


or you could have been mafia prevented from delivering a shot? lol jk works both ways.



Yes could be but I am town so I ate a shot. People have already pointed out why this is more likely. So when I flip town I can be justified post game with my claim when people bitch about it
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 21:42 GMT
#7902
On March 30 2015 06:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Onegu swore fealty to me so he had to vote with me. Superbia might be a bus, they might both be mafia or it's simply a mafia team that doesn't include Ritoky which I find fairly believable at this point. Could easily be Super/Breshke/FF.



This is basicly my scum team btw
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 21:55 GMT
#7908
On March 30 2015 06:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not right now but I'd just like more people trying to figure the game out, making sure if their reads make sense, look for shit everywhere and not just idle all the time. It bothers me even if it looks like PoE is looking good.



Will read FF breshke and damdred tonight promise
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:22 GMT
#7929
Where is FF BTW?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:30 GMT
#7949
On March 30 2015 07:23 Damdred wrote:
Oneg, do you think arts post is weird asking vivax who goes off on anything forever if it's gets in his head or am I over thinking thid



Link plz
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:31 GMT
#7951
On March 30 2015 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fine, I'll trust you.
##Unvote
##Vote FecalFeast



+1
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:38 GMT
#7971
On March 30 2015 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax are you not concerned about Damdred? I'd be happy to carpet bomb into the rest of PoE but Damdred is seriously starting to worry me.

This one? Seems fine to me, like we are running out of people who could be mafia and you are one of them even though I doubt it at this point. I really feel artanis is the person trying to figure the game out, normal he would want to look at you again.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:39 GMT
#7972
On March 30 2015 07:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm cool with that. I wanted to lynch Superbia anyway.
Onegu, are you ready?
##Unvote
##Vote Superbia

+1
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#8017
On March 30 2015 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Breshke



+1
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 22:58 GMT
#8027
On March 30 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Superbia

+1
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 23:05 GMT
#8043
Will read people later
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 29 2015 23:17 GMT
#8067
On March 27 2015 06:38 Onegu wrote:
Is the only reason trfel is town because he red checked a LS that didn't want to play anymore?

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#8113
On March 30 2015 23:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically I don't think I'll ever want to lynch SL but I could be convinced if someone made really strong arguments.
I'll look into Damdred tonight when Toad's around. I'd also like to see someone analyze me and/or comment on my towncases.



SL is town not only for shooting Palmar but because he didn't believe me and HF were masons posted so in thread and me and HF still got shot. You are town because I don't see scum putting the effort into the thread when it's basicly dead any way. Toad is town for the same reason plus there is no missing shot from n1. Vivex I believed over Toad at the start with his claim and the way he stuck by it plus filter size, I normally hate this argument but when the difference is this big it makes sense. Trfel is where I would put As your SL, like how can you say a mafia SL could chance a shot on palmar who is a better player but trfel couldn't chance it on LS?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 30 2015 14:53 GMT
#8114
On March 30 2015 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel
First reason is a tone thing.
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote:
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?

Does Mafia really make a point of asking this again after someone's already asked it? It's just so tonally weird that I find it hard to imagine Mafia doing it. It would've been a lot stronger if Superbia flipped mafia, but I feel it's still a towntell.

Second thing I notice is confidence.
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:43 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP
Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote.


...truuuufffllleee ;o; please tell me you're not scum this game. you know how i like to bounce ideas off you

tell me the two reasons i'm thinking you're possibly scum (hint: one i've already alluded to and the other has to do with the post I just quoted)
You probably think I'm scum because:

1. I'm ignoring the entire thread, and instead being useless and distracting the people who are playing the game properly. This is valid.

2. If you have a reason to scumread me other than that, I think it's terrible? Are you thinking of meta based on my opening in Student Mafia V?

For the record, I've only skimmed the game so far, I haven't read it in detail at all.

This post also feels very town from a tonal point of view. "Scumreading me for these reasons is okay, scumreading me for anything else is terrible." It showcases a confidence that I don't think Trfel is the type to fake.

Also not attempting to bury people who have flipped town:
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On March 19 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:55 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:52 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
am I wrong or did eden fakeclaim miller?
I think there's a very reasonable chance it's a joke. Though of course you are right that if Eden is in fact a miller, he wouldn't know.

Claiming unaware miller is something I was planning on doing eventually. Actually, I would have done that this game, but I forgot and claimed mafia instead.

idk yours was obviously tongue-in-cheek. This was a lot more subtle if it was a joke
I'm still inclined to give Eden the benefit of the doubt, and I see no real reason to say he isn't joking.

Well then I'm excited that you've given eden an out if he did infact slip.
You asked for an answer twice, so I provided one. Eden isn't a moron, I'm sure that if he actually is scum, he would say the same thing.

And I have two other reasons to say that this isn't a scumslip.

1. Look at Eden's tone. By saying the specific name of the miller, he shows that he's read the first page to find out what the miller is, which contains the phrase You are not aware. So, it's extremely unlikely that Eden didn't know that the miller was unaware. Furthermore, if he wanted to claim as scum, he would have said straight-out that he is claiming, not this indirect reference. Thus, I'm inclined to think that Eden is joking.

2. Eden townread rsoultin very strongly, and very early in the game. And he did this knowing that he wouldn't be able to provide good reasons for it, much less explain this read to the thread. I don't really see why mafia!Eden would want to do this.


Doesn't bury Slam:
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On March 19 2015 12:58 Trfel wrote:
One thing that makes Alakaslam suspicious is that he does seem fairly defensive early on. But I don't necessarily think that makes him mafia here?

In Down Under 2, Alakaslam was wagoned for most of Day 1, but never actually defended himself. He was scum. Perhaps aggressively defending himself is a sign of being town?

And I am well aware that I am both ignoring and using meta on Alakaslam simultaneously. Deal with it.


Then there's obviously his orb claim, tracking a mafia LS. Since we know Palmar was part of the mafia team, unless mafia believed that Rayn was indeed a tracker (in which case Ritoky is town), I doubt they'd be worried about a track and would simply let Palmar take the credit. Trfel's not known for having the strongest scumgame and I don't think they would sacrifice LS just for his cred.

At this point, I'm happy to call Trfel town and resign to losing the game if he is not.



Im meh on tone reads. Plus as scum I almost never bury town, if he buried them I think that's more townie than not. If town is going to lynch town why not just let them do it?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 30 2015 15:13 GMT
#8116
On March 30 2015 23:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
SL is town not only for shooting Palmar but because he didn't believe me and HF were masons posted so in thread and me and HF still got shot.

I'm pretty sure he only mentioned that after the shot though, so that doesn't hold too much water.

Show nested quote +
Trfel is where I would put As your SL, like how can you say a mafia SL could chance a shot on palmar who is a better player but trfel couldn't chance it on LS?

It's the same argument for both players. I just think the rest of Trfel's filter shows a very townie mindset whereas I can pick a few things in SL's filter I think are also townie but am not as convinced in as Trfel.



SL said something day one that was like beware of the lying mason partner
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 30 2015 15:17 GMT
#8117
On March 21 2015 01:19 sicklucker wrote:
onegu if you are really a mason why dont you like? sheep your partner?

I think your lying

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 30 2015 15:19 GMT
#8118
On March 22 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
I know only one of you are really a mason because it would be really retarded if you both claimed for no reason. Be very careful with whoever the one who is faking being your partner.




Then this n1
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 30 2015 20:02 GMT
#8150
On March 31 2015 04:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually it's not all that cunning. The idea is pretty simple; Everyone reads up on Damdred's filter, maybe some meta as well, makes their own opinion, then posts when they're ready. Once we're all ready we post it at the same time so we have a bunch of original thoughts, then discuss it.

I'd consider waiting till EoN but only having 20 minutes to discuss could be a problem, idk.



Ok will do
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