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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2015 19:48 GMT
#6004
Have you read my recent games?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2015 20:11 GMT
#6010
On March 25 2015 04:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 04:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:41 Vivax wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:36 Vivax wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
like i think i buy the Artanis is just killing it as scum theory over FF making a case on a townie and pushing that case lol if it was just the LS case i could see it, but...


FF making a case on a townie? What are you talking about?


me xP


Tbh people should be scumreading him just for the fact he makes cases.
But I didn't mention that. Yet. Anyway FF is mafia, so is Artanis. If I'm alive tomorrow I'll keep trying to hammer this into your heads.

People should be scumreading me for the fact that i make cases?

What?


It's not a terrible read. When you make cases and start going ham on people as town usually you're one of the first 2 or 3 on board, as opposed to being later on board as mafia. It's more of a timing thing than the actual case thing imo, hence why I asked you if you were one of the first 2 people to really start pushing on LS.

afaik I was one of the first to make a case on LS since rsoul was all 100% sure he was town. That's why I picked the song title "churning the maelstrom" because from my perspective it was a controversial read.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2015 20:14 GMT
#6012
ok but I'm not mafia so don't start theorizing what if I am because if you flip me it'll all go to shit
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2015 23:55 GMT
#6348
I'm not onegu's partner

Sorry I was running errands
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2015 23:56 GMT
#6352
why would rsoul jailkeep me?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 00:58 GMT
#6373
I just checked and made sure, pm says town
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 00:59 GMT
#6374
inb4 hur dur no it doesn't it says nova corps
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 01:02 GMT
#6376
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
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March 25 2015 01:14 GMT
#6378
I can already tell it's good by how long it is
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 01:24 GMT
#6381
how do i make that 3% bb?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 01:45 GMT
#6389
On March 25 2015 10:36 Superbia wrote:
Sup FF.

yo
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 01:47 GMT
#6393
On March 25 2015 10:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Also if everyone is so sure I am red, why am I not the lynch today?

i'm p sure you're busy/uninterested town but that's a tone read +you saying you will be free to play aperture after d1
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 01:48 GMT
#6395
On March 25 2015 10:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 25 2015 10:36 Superbia wrote:
Sup FF.

yo


Who you think is mafai? Pls not me.

you first i already lynched scum
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 04:17 GMT
#6476
On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 12:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 12:29 Superbia wrote:
Artanis.

uh

why

lol


All right. So Artanis' day 1 is actually really really bad, with the exception if rayn ever flips mafia (which I severely doubt at this point).

He hard defends LS:

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On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town:
On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet.

I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won

Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you.

I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably)

With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it.

Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town?


from JoaT:
On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.

Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game

not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me.

Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different?

Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned.

I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled.
Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game.
So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh.
@Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why?
@ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other?


Oh god this post is so mafia

Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays.


He calls toad scum and by proxy, defends Palmar who toad is tunneling. Interestingly, at this very point Artanis had no read on Palmar! He was reading him null!

Then, when the claim wars happen, he completely flips on toad, and goes hard after vivax. This is after toad was his hard mafia read.

We are left with this list:

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On March 21 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Votes as I see them:
Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): ExO

Not Voting (1): Trfel

Only having 1.7 scumread is problematic. Was hoping this'd help more.


With the exception of possibly rayn, most of his reads are pretty shit. He leans town on two confirmed mafia (really bad) for seemingly no good reason whatsoever.

Now this is where it gets scummy, with the whole claim thing. There's a wagon on Vivax and a wagon starts on BM. As the wagon starts, Art calls it "pure" but refuses to switch. He gets called out by you (Eden) and he gives a half-assed excuse later. He seems to strongly consider the world in which both vigis are real:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think Superbia might possibly be right. Host WIFOM time.
I know HtS likes her vigis because she hates lurkers. It's therefore very likely there's at least 1 vigi in the setup. Since the playercount wasn't fixed until the end, I find it plausible that the end balance was made by adding an additional vigi.

I'm not sure if I find that more plausible than that Vivax simply tried to fakeclaim and failed though. Toad definitely town for the CC, I just don't ever see mafia making that play when it isn't necessary.


But for a reason I don't share whatsoever, proceeds to call Vivax 100% scum anyway. Moreover, Artanis later finds the time to make a paint diagram on rayn's anger levels, a very peculiar thing to do in such a high-stress claim situation for town. He seems to consider his options during this claim war, but I sincerely doubt he actually did consider anything. In the end he is still reading Vivax as scum.

Now it gets even weirder, we manage to get the wagon off of Vivax, and the night phase begins. For some reason, Artanis decides to town-read Vivax, before the night actions are even resolved. Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

My theory at this point is that scum put both an RB and KP on Vivax. I believe that both Artanis and Onegu are scum due to this. I believe Artanis was looking to set himself up to look good before Vivax flipped town, and that he needed to substantiate his read after it became obvious Vivax lived through the KP. By extension, I think that Onegu is scum because in this world Onegu is never the save.

I think for a 3rd scum slam is still a good bet.

Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

On March 21 2015 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote:
nah i don't think truffle is scum lol...kinda surprised you do vivax actually cause he's being very truffle-like

the problem is we don't know the scum setup or what else this town may have, and it's possible, however unlikely, that we may actually no more day 2...if i was flatout scumreading vivax then sure lynch him to hell but i dunnae...i think he could be town ><

Rso, here's what I imagine is 99% likely going to happen.
We lynch BM, he flips whatever.
We tell Vivax and Toad to shoot certain targets. Vivax declines, says he'll shot whoever he wants. Toad agrees and shoots a public target.

One of the shots doesn't go off, the other hits town. We're now in D2 with little more information than we had before, a mystery on if the person the other vig wanted to shoot was blocked because he's mafia or because mafia want to mislynch him, and two vigis that are still both unconfirmed to be town.

We need to deal with this today or we'll spend another 72h talking about it.

So I really like this post by super like, artanis totally turned around on vivax even though exactly what he predicted would happen, did happen. Yes he still reads vivax town...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 07:21 GMT
#6579
eden why did you change your mind on me?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 18:49 GMT
#6706
On March 26 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote:
Also SLam, we're in an amazing spot. That talk of mislynches being pushed and scum being in a sick spot makes no sense, D1 we lynched a guy who was a prime vig target when I started playing, D2 we lynched scum, today we lynch another guy nobody wants at lylo. It's going swimmingly!

You're already securing a mislynch on me, it's making me kinda feel like omgusing
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 18:52 GMT
#6709
On March 26 2015 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.

regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.

how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you

You are supposed to be seeing frustration and inability to aid, you should see a logic that is trying to aid town from a position of literally no information.

You should see me GIVING A FUCK BECAUSE AS SCUM I WOULDNT. I WOULD JUST LOL AT YOU AND GO FOR YOUR nk EARLIER.

You should see me popping in so rarely and only saying things like "page 302, boss 302" and my opinion on things here and there.

You should have fucking lynches me when I asked for it, not always as the pocket lynch at the end until scum finds they need an ML NOW

this is why you are so scum in my eyes. I can see a scum strategy and you are following it better than the town strategy and you refuse to inform me.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOUKD SEE HILY SHIT

NO JNFORMATION LIKE WTF I COULD ASK MY SCUMTEAM TO KEEP ME UPDATED VERSUS ROLLING OVER USELESS LIKE THIS. I COULD AT LEAST ACT LIKE I WAS IP ON THE THREAD

this post actually feels town to me
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 19:04 GMT
#6714
On March 26 2015 03:57 Trfel wrote:
Fecalfeast, do you have any answer to the questions raised about your activity?

You were very active early on, and then when after LightningStrike (who you posted a case on) flipped, your activity significantly dropped.

The last 2 days were my days off and most of the posting I did was from my phone.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 19:25 GMT
#6720
On March 26 2015 04:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 03:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 26 2015 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.

regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.

how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you

You are supposed to be seeing frustration and inability to aid, you should see a logic that is trying to aid town from a position of literally no information.

You should see me GIVING A FUCK BECAUSE AS SCUM I WOULDNT. I WOULD JUST LOL AT YOU AND GO FOR YOUR nk EARLIER.

You should see me popping in so rarely and only saying things like "page 302, boss 302" and my opinion on things here and there.

You should have fucking lynches me when I asked for it, not always as the pocket lynch at the end until scum finds they need an ML NOW

this is why you are so scum in my eyes. I can see a scum strategy and you are following it better than the town strategy and you refuse to inform me.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOUKD SEE HILY SHIT

NO JNFORMATION LIKE WTF I COULD ASK MY SCUMTEAM TO KEEP ME UPDATED VERSUS ROLLING OVER USELESS LIKE THIS. I COULD AT LEAST ACT LIKE I WAS IP ON THE THREAD

this post actually feels town to me


are you mafia spewing slam as town?

nope
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 25 2015 19:51 GMT
#6731
i'll dive breshke when i get to work good observation damd
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