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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 22:26 GMT
#908
like saying "the prplhz thing is stupid and not alignment indicative" doesn't make it so. I clearly think it's alignment indicative.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 22:31 GMT
#916
##vote: rayn
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:20 GMT
#967
guys

i just got to the bottom of the rayn/damdred thing

it's taken me at least 30 minutes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:22 GMT
#970
gonna try to patch it together and make sure i still understand, it's a bit like when i read about quantum mechanics and i have to keep going back to check i understand the concept i'm reading about
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:37 GMT
#980
still working on this post lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:42 GMT
#984
On March 11 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is mafia because:
- He said i did something that's incorrect, therefore i am mafia. Then he corrected himself which makes his accusation invalid in the first place but he doesn't correct his conclusion. If he had an explanation to this he would have told it already.

So that's the basic accusation ^

It stems from this:
On March 11 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pretty much noone thought prplhz was mafia on D1. I was pretty much the only person (maybe Robik did?) to think he is mafia on D2. While my read on prplhz from the beginning is shit anyways i notice obvious scumtells. Now LS' read on prplhz on N2 was this:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
My entire thought process for now:
Confirmed Town: Blazinghand, Superbia, Half the Sky.
Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz.
POE META: Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred.


I actually misread his filter a bit, this was from N2 not D2 as i claimed. Anyways my point still stands.
He did read prplhz town on N2, after my flip.


rayn quotes a post saying that LS is townreading prplhz. But Damdred rebuts:
On March 11 2015 03:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
My entire thought process for now:
Confirmed Town: Blazinghand, Superbia, Half the Sky.
Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz.
POE META: Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred.
Reason for each one of them:
Fecalfeast looks like he did in Slytherin Mafia although he looked worse than that game when I first read him but his read on me is bad
Palmar: Palmar being Palmar I heard he doesn’t try when he’s Mafia and he been trying this game since the weekend when he normally cba on the weekend.
Rsoultin: I know her pretty well and the last time she was Mafia she was reading very weird that entire game but this game she just been calling town and been standing her ground like she normally does <3
Damdred: Despite coming in late he looking like himself being very decisive which he was every time I played with him but I never played with him when he was Mafia though but he doensn’t really look like his scum game in Imperial which is a semi recent game that got a Mafia victory.
Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me which 4 Mafia and 1 SK is 5 players and I got 5 and Robik might have been a wrong meta read which I taking into account for this and the fact he been tunneling the shit out of me and Slam is mostly unreadable for me this game and the last I couldn’t read him he was Mafia in Slytherin so I think he might be Mafia this game on meta for me. Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. Prplhz he might be a vet as far I’m concerned and if he is one he looks really bad like Gobble bad meaning he could be mafia with very poor play and he doesn’t look very townie this game. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone.


Like if you are going to try to incrimidate someone by saying after I flipped he thinks damdred is town quote the whole fucking post

Now this is where the fun begins. Damdred uses the wrong names, but the point is clear (I say it's clear, it's clear in the context after I've thought about it) - LS was not townreading prplhz in the PART of the post that rayn quoted. The *rest* of the post goes on to explain how in fact prplhz is one of his scumreads.

So Damdred is angry because rayn is representing LS as townreading prplhz by cutting off a post, when the rest of the post makes it clear he was not.

The reason I just said "the point is clear" is because all of rayn's attack on LS was based on LS's read on prplhz. Damdred obviously didn't mean LS's read on Damdred, because that hasn't even been mentioned once up to that point in the thread. To note, Damdred is still right: rayn claims that LS was mafia-reading Damdred, when he was not
On March 11 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is here claiming he was so good, his case was so good, and everything. Yeah well, it happened on D4. Two days after.. And i am not sure if he honestly didn't took a look at my reads because he SHEEPED DAMDRED onto me, then when i got lynched Damdred is suddenly scum. It doesn't make any sense unless he took a look at my reads.

And frankly it is ludicrous to even conjure a mafia motivation for Damdred suddenly talking about LS's read on Damdred rather than prplhz. sense not makes it. So to continue:
On March 11 2015 03:03 Damdred wrote:
Or rather after rayn flips he thinks i'm scum

which isn't the case if you read the post

Damdred makes this incorrect correction, because again it's about rayn and prplhz (although what Damdred says is still right). Two things here:

1. According to rayn's original reading of the cut-off LS post, it would look like LS is reading Damdred scum (which he wasn't)
2. Again there is no reason for mafia Damdred to suddenly make the read about him when he hadn't been mentioned. Damdred just picked on the wrong thing
On March 11 2015 03:05 Damdred wrote:
Like seriously if you read the post you can see that LS says prp looks horrible and is on his anti-town list or whatever which he explains as such like two posts later to ritoky.

Seriously rayn?

Damdred back to talking about the LS-prplhz stuff.

Back to the original accusation:
On March 11 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is mafia because:
- He said i did something that's incorrect, therefore i am mafia. Then he corrected himself which makes his accusation invalid in the first place but he doesn't correct his conclusion. If he had an explanation to this he would have told it already.

This is just untrue. Damdred's (baddish) correction did not invalidate his accusation.

The fact of the matter is that rayn did take an LS post, said it was reading prplhz town, when LS wasn't. Damdred's point was correct.

Go back and read for yourself - the quote is just above in this post, Damdred is angry for rayn misrepresenting what LS said, and he's right!

Right now I'm not saying that this means anything about rayn, I'm saying Damdred's accusation was not false, it was correct, in both facets. His correction did not make what he said invalid.

Nothing Damdred said was actually inconsistent here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:47 GMT
#991
Onegu confirmed not reading the thread.

also read and understand what i wrote. it will make your life easier because otherwise you will take forever trying to piece it together yourselves.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:50 GMT
#997
On March 11 2015 08:48 justanothertownie wrote:
I appreciate the effort marv but this has been rather disappointing.

why is it disappointing?

at the very least we now know rayn's accusation on damdred there is incorrect.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:51 GMT
#998
On March 11 2015 08:49 ritoky wrote:
where's your footnote giving me my credit marv?

because how you presented it was not right. at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:54 GMT
#1002
On March 11 2015 08:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2015 08:48 justanothertownie wrote:
I appreciate the effort marv but this has been rather disappointing.

why is it disappointing?

at the very least we now know rayn's accusation on damdred there is incorrect.

It is dissapointing because it does not tell us that much about their alignment.

well if someone thought damdred was mafia for that, then now they can't, because it's false.

it also means rayn is pushing something false, and if he's going to be pushing damdred for something, he should at least be correct about it. it's essentially a fabrication.

there's a whole bunch of posts where rayn rants at damdred even though damdred already corrected himself. he's not reading, he's just attacking blindly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:56 GMT
#1006
if it was the really stupid question, then no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:56 GMT
#1007
as in, no i won't answer
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:56 GMT
#1009
On March 11 2015 08:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2015 08:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2015 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2015 08:48 justanothertownie wrote:
I appreciate the effort marv but this has been rather disappointing.

why is it disappointing?

at the very least we now know rayn's accusation on damdred there is incorrect.

It is dissapointing because it does not tell us that much about their alignment.

well if someone thought damdred was mafia for that, then now they can't, because it's false.

it also means rayn is pushing something false, and if he's going to be pushing damdred for something, he should at least be correct about it. it's essentially a fabrication.

there's a whole bunch of posts where rayn rants at damdred even though damdred already corrected himself. he's not reading, he's just attacking blindly.

This is all true but we are talking about rayn here.

again, his last town filter was extremely measured.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:57 GMT
#1012
the simple fact is, rayn is more likely to attack people unreasonably as mafia than town. he does it all the time as mafia.

yes, he can do it as town.

but on balance it's more characteristic of his mafia play to attack people badly than his townplay.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 10 2015 23:59 GMT
#1014
On March 11 2015 08:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu confirmed not reading the thread.

also read and understand what i wrote. it will make your life easier because otherwise you will take forever trying to piece it together yourselves.



I never really read just kinda skimp but anywhos will read your post.on what was going on with the Rayn Damdred thing and after kinda skimming your post still didn't get it.

BUT HERE IS THE 100% Rayn SOUL READ.

Give random person town read with little reason. Check

Call random person scum then realize something was off and change read. Check

Tunnel random person for reason that makes little to no sense. Check

Angry at person he is tunneling. Check.

Ignore most everything else. Check

Rayn 100% town. Thank me later.

this is god awful because he does all this as mafia. christ
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 11 2015 00:00 GMT
#1016
On March 11 2015 08:58 justanothertownie wrote:
I guess I will have another look at him tomorrow but right now I don't really see why rayn would be so stubborn about something like this as mafia.

then give me mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 11 2015 00:06 GMT
#1027
On March 11 2015 09:03 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 08:59 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2015 08:57 Onegu wrote:
On March 11 2015 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu confirmed not reading the thread.

also read and understand what i wrote. it will make your life easier because otherwise you will take forever trying to piece it together yourselves.



I never really read just kinda skimp but anywhos will read your post.on what was going on with the Rayn Damdred thing and after kinda skimming your post still didn't get it.

BUT HERE IS THE 100% Rayn SOUL READ.

Give random person town read with little reason. Check

Call random person scum then realize something was off and change read. Check

Tunnel random person for reason that makes little to no sense. Check

Angry at person he is tunneling. Check.

Ignore most everything else. Check

Rayn 100% town. Thank me later.

this is god awful because he does all this as mafia. christ



Nope he is different. I have correctly town read every game in which Rayn was town, and scum read Rayn in every game he was scum in. And nothing is giving me heebe jeebies this game. I R Correct. Thank me later!

I've played with rayn 20 more times than you and been wrong once in 2 years. so what?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 11 2015 00:07 GMT
#1031
i really just want to stop reading the game but i can never help myself reading it.

and in case rayn says smart things tomorrow. otherwise i don't really care
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 11 2015 00:08 GMT
#1034
no koshi, you really aren't
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 11 2015 00:09 GMT
#1036
hey Damdred, I expect your thanks. Especially if you're mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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