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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 20:19 GMT
#757
On March 11 2015 05:03 Palmar wrote:
Lynch rayn for scumreading LS

Are yo uscum or just fucking dumb?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 20:39 GMT
#764
quoteing only relevant parts:
On March 11 2015 05:32 rsoultin wrote:
ls says prp was easy to read (and he was the one to make a case on him so that makes sense from his perspective)

how was your debate on whether or not ls' prp read in titanic was good/better than yours going to give you a read on ls?

cause from where I was sitting (based on a skim admittedly) it looked more like you said you thought prp played well in titanic

We are talking about D1 play here. I already pointed out in my opinion purplehaze played quite well in Titanic D1.

LS read prplhz town (D3) AFTER i called prplhz scum (on D2). I was trying to figure out if LS is just saying shit instead of actually thinking so, because what he said was not what happened (since i was the one, and ONLY town player in the game making a case on prplhz as early as D2 -- which also proves his D1 WAS pretty good (at least for that town)).

incorrect. I even wrote here in this game his D2 in titanic was shit.

now imo this is all irrelevant regarding LS, as i have said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 20:40 GMT
#765
EBWOP: LS read prplhz scum (D3)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 20:56 GMT
#770
Where is the case on me Damdred?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:00 GMT
#773
On March 11 2015 05:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 11 2015 04:27 Damdred wrote:
You did misconstrue ls and call me a liar for no reason trying to discredit me I suppose.

You just want to shit fight rayn

On March 11 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
rayn youre shitting up the thread. talk to me about this game. im one of the ppl you have to convince youre town


On March 11 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
lol im not sure...i dont think he was calling ls scum, just arguing pointlessly over who can read prp better

Onto all of this.

I did not misconstrue LS. I was very well aware he called all of his "probably town" reads scum aswell in his post, i just left it out (and i also said that after) because it was irrelevant as i think for whatever reason someone calls someone scum (his reason was afaik "weak POE ", scumreads are more scummy than townreads. Which is where you misconstrued me, not me.

I also never called LS mafia. I was curious why he said what he did about prplhz. I did not have a decent read on him, and i still don't. My conclusion was literally "And i don't even know for what reason and i don't even know if it makes him scum. Fuck... Annoying.". This is NOT a scumread or "pushing LS" like you are trying to twist it Damdred. You are interested in the matter in whole as your half of filter is talking about this. You made a conclusion that is a straight out lie if you have even read my posts.

rsoultin, see above, and no, that was not what i was doing. I was trying to understand why LS says stuff in this game given what has happened in the titanic game. However Damdred went on (after what i talked about) first saying this:
On March 11 2015 03:02 Damdred wrote:
Like if you are going to try to incrimidate someone by saying after I flipped he thinks damdred is town quote the whole fucking post

His point here seems to be i called LS out for something i should not have (which is "he thinks damdred is town at the certain point in the game" -- anything else does not make sense). In the next post yes, he corrects himself by "town = scum". But look at the post now:
On March 11 2015 03:02 Damdred wrote:
Like if you are going to try to incrimidate someone by saying after I flipped he thinks damdred is scum quote the whole fucking post

what is his point now? i even asked him to make a case on me, apparently he can't.

The reasonable thing for a townie to say (regardless of what he thinks of me) is "yeah okay, that does not make you mafia, i fucked up". He doesn't do it. He doesn't follow up. Hell i asked him to make a case on me! And the only explanation for not following up is he is mafia, he literally cannot follow that up. ^^

you literally called multiple posts LS made "bullshit" and then accused him of inflating his contributions and you ended the entire line of questioning with "oh god fuck i don't know after all". But don't pretend the stuff that came before was you not at least representing a scumread, if you're repeatedly telling someone they are lying or posting bullshit, then they have to be mafia to you, or nothing you're doing makes sense

you're wiggling on semantics.

well that is not right. that. is. just. not. right.
at least not in my world and how i do stuff.

you are starting to be really annoying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:09 GMT
#778
marv you have to realize we are talking about LS here, he is someone who makes like 1600% less sense than GB who makes 0% sense does. Like you can't just flush away the fact i called actual bullshit bullshit. I do not have to have a scumread on LS because of that, if i did -- or if i did wanna fake that as mafia -- i would have voted for him, because as mafia i would have actual reasons to do that.

Why are you dismissing everything regarding "why is rayn doing stuff he does" and what i said about Damdred instead of saying this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:11 GMT
#779
On March 11 2015 06:07 rsoultin wrote:
this could just be ego...it felt a little like ego reading it...I can easily see someone thinking you were scumreading ls there given the way you approached him, so why is Damdred in particular scummy for that reasoning?

I am not saying he is mafia for that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:11 GMT
#780
On March 11 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where is the case on me Damdred?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:15 GMT
#783
On March 11 2015 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
and damdred is scum if he doesn't make a case on a scumread now? he's never called anyone scum as town without a case?

what is this post supposed to say?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:19 GMT
#786
On March 11 2015 06:17 rsoultin wrote:
You are calling him mafia for not making a case on you, am I right?

How precisely does this make him mafia?

lol no i am not.
he is calling me mafia. do you know why? i don't, because i pointed huge holes in all of his arguments he has actually presented.

why can't he make a case on me? it doesn't necessarily make him mafia, it enforces my scumread on him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:22 GMT
#789
EBWOP: meh.. that is not the reason i am calling him mafia for, but yes, him repeatedly refusing to elaborate on his scumread for the reasons i pointed out makes me think he is more likely to be mafia.

so yes i think you can call it for a reason for me to call him mafia, but that is not the main reason. you get the point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:24 GMT
#794
On March 11 2015 06:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Thank for clairifiing my PoE rsoultin <3
Also what was the purpose of arguing with me when you ended up getting nothing out of it Rayn?

to get a read on you, before i realized i can't get one.
which is why i am basically ignoring you for now unless PoE says you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:25 GMT
#795
On March 11 2015 06:23 rsoultin wrote:
okay, i'll bite, rayn

next question: is it conceivable that (disregarding the possibility that you are scum which I still think is high enough to keep my vote on you xP) damdred still thinks you were scumreading LS or at least heavily implying he was scum?

Maybe. I don't understand what difference does this make.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:31 GMT
#802
Damdred can you have at least one conclusion of your own before marv makes a post about something?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:32 GMT
#803
On March 11 2015 06:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 11 2015 06:23 rsoultin wrote:
okay, i'll bite, rayn

next question: is it conceivable that (disregarding the possibility that you are scum which I still think is high enough to keep my vote on you xP) damdred still thinks you were scumreading LS or at least heavily implying he was scum?

Maybe. I don't understand what difference does this make.


well, you scumreading LS for how good/bad LS perceived prp to be in his scum game is obviously idiotic xP the main reason I was pretty sure that wasn't want you were doing. but your tone/word choice did strongly suggest it, and if he thinks you're making an idiotic read over a pointless argument...how does that make him scum? he could do that as both alignments imo

but i didn't do that?!?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:35 GMT
#809
Like i don't get you at all.
My conclusion suggests i didn't scumread LS. I have said that's not what i did. I don't even scumread Damdred for scumreading me for "me scumreading LS".

I don't know where you are getting at at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 21:42 GMT
#823
On March 11 2015 06:37 rsoultin wrote:
okay rayn I frankly don't get what you say you poked holes in :/ regarding damdred

I don't want to elaborate on this yet. I want Damdred to make his case on me which i have asked now for four times.
I can however say this, one of the reasons i now scumread him is because he apparently can't do this. The only times he talks about me (calls me mafia -- or implies so) is when marv says something is wrong in my posting. That is fishy as hell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 10 2015 23:02 GMT
#948
I try to be clear once more before going to bed.
Damdred is mafia because:
- He said i did something that's incorrect, therefore i am mafia. Then he corrected himself which makes his accusation invalid in the first place but he doesn't correct his conclusion. If he had an explanation to this he would have told it already.
- I have repeatedly asked him to make a case on me based purely on the above. He has repeatedly failed to do so despite talking in the thread. Like the fucking truth is he is voting me because he is sheeping marv and somehow he cannot even say that?!!? And now he i trying to make up other reasons. There is literally no other reason he is voting for me and there is no way he cannot tell the truth regarding this if he was town.
- He is only contributing towards me (accusing me) when marv posts about me. When marv doesn't, or when there is a delay between marv's posts he doesn't post. He is not even trying to argue with me on points I HAVE A POINT ON (which would be all the points he has ever brought up lol). He just brings up new points after marv has talked. He is not trying to figure out anything.

now goodnight. JAT also probably scum. Koshi town hero, marv not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2015 18:48 GMT
#1370
ugh... long day at work. lemme take a quick shower and catch up.
I did read during my breaks though, i'm around where Palmar voted for JAT. p57 or smth.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2015 19:39 GMT
#1421
There is no way we are lynching Eden. We are lynching justanothertownie.

JAT
There are three simple reasons for JAT being mafia.
(1) Koshi's post where he says "jat doesn't give that sort of townreads". This is true, asbolutely true. JAT as town is paranoid as fuck and basically NEVER townreads people for that little. Never.
(2) JAT is sorta defending me but never tries to find an alternative lynch. Go read his filter, does it look like he actually wants to lynch someone? Like this post:
On March 11 2015 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Damdred may be mafia. I don't really remember a single thing he did this game.

is closest to a scumread he has given in this game. Which brings me to:
(3) He isn't actually doing anything. Like, he isn't pushing anything, he isn't giving any reads or thought processes on things. He is just fucking here. Lynch with fire.

Onegu
I totally retract my townread on Onegu for various reasons. I originally read him as town because i thought as mafia he would give a read on me quite early in the game. I understand i have looked scummy to people (well mainly to marv and rsoultin, others are/were just sheeples), Onegu -- as town -- if he thought i am town would counter people. But he isn't. Still he gives me a townread a bit later on. tbh, if he reads me as scum he is 100% mafia, but still, his reasoning is crap crappy crap. It doesn't even mean anything like marv mentioned because yes, i do those things as either alignment. My conclusion here is the same as JAT point (2) -- Onegu does not want to call me mafia but doesn't want to actually defend me either (or find an alternative lynch). Onegu WOULD defend me HARDCORE in case he was town, i am 99% sure of that.

ritoky
He is just useless. So very useless and i don't understand why anyone would want to join a game they are posting a lot but only posting entirely useless things.




As for my townreads:
marv, Koshi, rsoultin, Eden, Damdred.
I don't think the first three need alot of explanation but if someone wants me to explain just ask.
- Eden is town!!! Do not lynch him! The difference in him defending me is that he actually wanted to lynch other people, mainly JAT, who is fucking mafia. From what i read he trusts his tonereads and that was the main reason for him to defend me. Well yeah, while he is wrong (there is no tonereading regarding me)that doesn't make him scum, especially when he is actively trying to figure out the game in the meantime. The latest of his posts read very genuine to me and i think his argument Damdred is accusing him of (not answering him and blabla) he is definitely right on and Damdred is not. I also really like him because he has said many things i have actually meant when other people make something dumb out of it.
- Damdred's posting has gotten way better since early game when he was only talking about me. I still don't believe he genuinely has other reasons to think i am mafia than to sheep marv. I also don't think he is scum for it after thinking it over. I don't even wanna touch the LS argument between me and Damdred again because while i still do not understand where i was wrong if several people think this way i probably read something wrong and i don't wanna go LS posting from some other game again.

meh idk.. Maybe just add purplehaze here. I personally do not think he is town jsut because he is not like "super good" and imo doesn't say anything good enough to townread him (i still stand behind my point he played a really good D1 in Titanic). But i am going to trust marv here. At least until his posting goes from "good enough" to "superbad", which it probably will if he is scum.

I have no idea what Palmar is doing and i hate it 100%, but i also know he is dick enough to do what he does now as town. I don't like him because he is calling me mafia and i feel like he is trying to antagonize me which is what he ALWAYS does as mafia, in every single game. Anyways he is nowhere near as scummy as the three red reads.

I don't really read LightningStirke's posts. I don't want to argue with/about him right now because it takes effort and PoE says he is not mafia.



This game has been really hard for me because nothing happened at the start of the game. I tried to get something started and apparently it failed miserably. Then the situation evolved to the point where marv makes a case on me and noone talks about anything but me -- and even here, none of the people who voted for me and are not marv even fucking said anything (except for rsoultin so huge props for her about that) for reals. I usually work by process of elimination but in this game it has been impossible for me to do so, just because noone talks (until now). So i took a workday off from posting (while i did read how much i could), worked with the opposite of PoE, and here i am.

We need to murder justanothertownie with fire because he is mafia.
Please.
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