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On March 16 2015 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Can someone tell me I'm overreacting (or not) with deciding Damdred isn't a dick enough to replace out like this as mafia? It feels like I could get away with an easy read right here. Damdred slot is definitely town or this game is invalid.
Last I will say on this, but I agree.
I also agree that I don't think Damdred would replace out because he was under pressure as mafia. I've often wished I could just replace out when I'm having a tough game as scum, but I never actually considered going ahead and doing it.
And I think Damdred is probably morally superior to me already which further adds to this feeling
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On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too.
where???
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I am on page 7 of jat's Imperial filter and I found the first thing i can call a hint of a townread
"geript might be town for being a complete donkey"
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On March 16 2015 20:43 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Palmar
i don't know but if palmar thinks i'm a liar he should have voted me or some shit?
he is voting you
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that's not even the same game though.
And he is joking.
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On March 16 2015 20:47 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote:On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too. so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing? He is saying you can't compare this game to the game for what you said. You said JAT didn't read marv town in that other game despite marv being easy to read for him but marv was mafia in that game so why should JAT read him town in the first place there? This game JAT gave out half-arsed townreads. That game he did the opposite. Therefore the meta you presented is invalid. oh, i didn't consider that marv point. but it's still true that he didn't give out town reads like he did this game.
I dont' see how it invalidates your point at all. whether i am mafia or town in that game is not the point.
the point you were making is:
1. In Imperial, jat gave out no half-ass townreads (this is correct)
2. This game, he did (this is correct)
there was nothing wrong with your comparison to Imperial, at all.
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The comparison didn't suck though.
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On March 16 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:45 marvellosity wrote:
that's not even the same game though.
And he is joking. he is not, he says also "of the peopel who have posted you are my top townread" to sciberbia.
yes, about 5 posts into the game because sciberbia said himself "anyone who responds to this post gets a free townread"
none of that passage of play is serious
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the "bullshit marv is pulling" = pulling you up on your errors, so ok Palmar.
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On March 16 2015 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:59 Palmar wrote:On March 16 2015 20:58 prplhz wrote:
why is it a dick/cheating move to replace out as scum? if you think your game is shit wouldn't you feel more responsible to your team as scum and then replace out? Because the reason he replaced out is that people were scumreading him. Doing that as mafia should be bannable. It's basically a strategical replacement for in-game benefits. Hell this is why I don't use replacements. Doing that as either alignment is cheating tbh.
^ agreed, otherwise i would not be here 
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On March 16 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
the "bullshit marv is pulling" = pulling you up on your errors, so ok Palmar. Tell me why Onegu is mafia? On my "not lynch list" at the moment (this is a very fluid list) Palmar Koshi prplhz FF That leaves Eden rayn Marv Onegu
Onegu could be mafia for being kinda aggressive about his VT claim (talked about this before)
Onegu could be mafia for his overcertainty on rayn based on really bad reasons (the first time he tried to explain his rayn townread)
Onegu could be mafia because none of his reads are "out there", they are all safe (last time we played I mislynched him because he made a case on the towniest dude in the thread)
Onegu could be town for his VT claim
Onegu could be town because there's a lot more joking around in his towngames than his mafiagames.
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that post makes you more likely to be mafia.
Read what happened, read the thread, read what i said. None of it is a mystery, and the fact you're making it out to be weird or something is pathetic.
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You were here last night as it was happening, get out.
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On March 16 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Like I would have thought you wanted to be decisive today. I'm not gonna blame you for being wrong yesterday, we all were. But it's important to get shit right today, and you don't appear (you may well be, but appearances!) to be working towards some kind of a solution.
Except you have done that with your posting. Your posting is littered with pushing crap on me for the ritoky lynch. I had a "shit day". The points on ritoky were "weak" when I was asking the thread over and over if the points were good. You said my points were good at the time. rayn switched his read around on ritoky having read what I wrote. If what I was pushing was bad, no-one chimed up to say so.
I made it abundantly clear, in posts that you were reading to and responding to last night, that I wouldn't be pushing for anything today.
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whereas you're sort of okay with just doing nothing and voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time.
Literally totally untrue, I voted you and moved to rayn (on my own, with no expectation of being followed) and haven't moved since.
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On March 16 2015 22:07 Palmar wrote:
Like I don't get why you're so annoyed with me. I haven't done much this game but what I have done has been pretty much okay.
because you just say crap?
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On March 16 2015 22:12 prplhz wrote:why do you think i got mad? i think i stayed pretty courteous
you got slightly mad ----> into townpile
I genuinely rage for extended periods of time and use language that I would never use as mafia ---> ....
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On March 16 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:whereas you're sort of okay with just doing nothing and voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time. Literally totally untrue, I voted you and moved to rayn (on my own, with no expectation of being followed) and haven't moved since. That's exactly my point. Why do you not want people to follow you? I remember you saying at some point something like "I will just stand by and do nothing while palmar gets lynched", which is so uncharacteristic. Let's assume you're town. If we mislynch today, someone that isn't me or you, mafia is going to shoot one of us, and the other will be lynched with fire. It is super important to either get today right, and to figure out mine, yours, and preferably rayn's alignment. If I die tonight and flip town, town will be all over you. we HAVE to get this right. What is your role marv?
that's not exactly your point.
Your exact point was "voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time". That was your exact point. And it's bullshit.
As for the rest, I refer you to my posts last night. They are in the last few pages of my filter, you were there at the time, it's not too challenging to find.
I remember you saying at some point something like "I will just stand by and do nothing while palmar gets lynched", which is so uncharacteristic.
Uncharacteristic of what, exactly? Can you think of anything i've ever even remotely said like that as mafia? I'll tell you, the answer is no.
If we mislynch today, someone that isn't me or you, mafia is going to shoot one of us, and the other will be lynched with fire
That's just a weird thing to say. If we mislynch today, there is approx 0% chance I get shot.
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On March 16 2015 22:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote:On March 16 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:whereas you're sort of okay with just doing nothing and voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time. Literally totally untrue, I voted you and moved to rayn (on my own, with no expectation of being followed) and haven't moved since. That's exactly my point. Why do you not want people to follow you? I remember you saying at some point something like "I will just stand by and do nothing while palmar gets lynched", which is so uncharacteristic. Let's assume you're town. If we mislynch today, someone that isn't me or you, mafia is going to shoot one of us, and the other will be lynched with fire. It is super important to either get today right, and to figure out mine, yours, and preferably rayn's alignment. If I die tonight and flip town, town will be all over you. we HAVE to get this right. What is your role marv? that's not exactly your point. Your exact point was "voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time". That was your exact point. And it's bullshit. As for the rest, I refer you to my posts last night. They are in the last few pages of my filter, you were there at the time, it's not too challenging to find. Isn't that what the idiom means? I was a simple easy to reach lynch, then I demonstrated myself to be a bit more complex so you moved on. I'm not saying it's scummy to do so, it's just so easy.
Er... so I voted once and then moved on to someone who no-one else wanted to lynch (as far as I was aware). Yes, that definitely validates your point. If by validates, I mean doesn't validate at all.
"voting WHATEVER the lowest hanging fruit is AT THE TIME" definitely implies I am just moving where the wind takes me on who i think will be easy to lynch. that is clearly not the case.
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On March 16 2015 22:27 Palmar wrote:
You are like me marv, you want to win. When the game is on the line you abandon whatever facade you've put up throughout the game and go for it. I do this every time, sadly it rarely works.
You know I afked Day 2 on Horn when the lynch was on me, and literally the only reason I got HF lynched in the end was because my chess match finished early and I could post for an hour? I'd given up on the day for all intents and purposes.
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