XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+) - Page 39

On March 21 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That is not right Palmar. That is just not fucking right.

On March 21 2015 01:21 Koshi wrote:

No not w.e

if rayn is town here. You did fuck all. If we followed your lead we would have lynched town rayn on D1 who gave us these 2 lynches.

And you can't take any fucking credit on the Onegu lynch. You didn't even put 1 reason in the thread why Onegu was mafia in that 65 page filter of yours. Or maybe one. rofl.

And now you want to lynch that person over the most obvious mafia Palmar, or mafia Eden who played well but actually hasn"t made much sense in 85% of his posts. But I don't know if he is mafia for it. But clearly you don't know either.


And between all that you live in a world in which you think you are actually more valuable this game than let's say Koshi or rayn. What a joke you are.

Time to retire. or go on a long break.

On March 21 2015 01:56 Koshi wrote:
Nha I made this game easy.
Scumlynch d1. Harddefended Damdred. Defended town hero rayn.
Let baddies lynch redcheck d2. Which always wouls have happened.
Defended scum Onegu d3. Pushed town prplhz. Oops. Shrug.
gave town 2 greenchecks d4 even due to masterful veteran fakeclaim on d2 while being doc target n1 due to lynch on mafia + "known" doc.

Other people in this game though......

On March 21 2015 02:01 Koshi wrote:
Palmar wake me up when you stop pushing the idea in the thread you are town. "Bad d4" hahaha funny man.

On March 21 2015 02:22 marvellosity wrote:
that I could see you and Onegu together. *shrug*

i know you can point me to all the town shit, so can all of you :x

On March 16 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote:

Since like... forever.

While somewhat outdated because I'm aware of it, one of my massive towntells is that I get confused, hedge my bets and in general am very uncertain and tentative when I'm town, the exception is when I set my mind to something "I'm going to get this lynch."

As mafia I used to overplay my hand in terms of confidence quite a bit.

On March 16 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote:


Well, think about it. If I somehow got shot, however unlikely, I wanted people to take a hard look at you. If I survive, I get to stay in the game to actually make an informed decision. It's completely logical to do exactly what I did.



Why not? That is how it almost always goes between us. In fact just yesterday you said I was townie for the way I treated you. I am allowed to call you mafia, and this treatment you're giving me makes you more likely to be one. I am allowed to do exactly what I'm doing because it's exactly what I do when I'm town. You know this marv. How are you going to react?



I don't think I wanna. I know I have a massive sweet spot for people who are reasonable when it comes to my alignment (think Damdred in Imperial), but I still can't make myself double think the fact that he has correctly determined my alignment.

On March 16 2015 07:34 Palmar wrote:

Because of that blink song.

There are multiple small weird things about you. I'll name the ones I have off the top of my head.

1) The rsoultin kill incriminates you (I know this is bad and terrible but stay with me). If we think about the possible kills during that night the only other viable one would be rayn. Koshi is probably getting medic protected, I am trolling and being shit, Eden was shit day 1 etc etc. You are the sensible night 1 kill. If I am mafia I shoot you every time there.

2) You said that you would not have lead the JAT wagon lead for so long without doing something about it or jumping on it to gain credit. Maybe my assumptions are off, but I really disagreed with you on that. I just didn't have the energy to argue with you at the time and I was not sure (I'm still not). I would expect you to do EXACTLY this, basically don't rock the boat too much and see if JAT could turn it around, then hop on if he was dying anyway.

3) You have not been assertive or made any hard reads this game except on two people, one of them is ritoky which was quite wrong, and the other is prplhz. Hard reading koshi and LS town doesn't really count because well, it's easy as fuck, hell the LS read was MY read.

4) talking about the hard reads, you were wrong on ritoky. I know you are occasionally wrong but you seem rather unfazed by it. I also have a hard time believing you'd be wrong on ritoky, then turn around and be wrong on me next, after not having lead town on day 1. This would be your third "shit" day in a row.

5) You did explain your prplhz read, I never double checked it. However I did notice that the substantial parts of the read that I actually believe, all came long after you had started townreading him. That being said, the parts I didn't really care about, the metrics, did in fact happen before you made your read for the most part so meh.

Still... so many small things.

Like Blink182

On March 16 2015 08:11 Palmar wrote:
I almost want to give marv the benefit of the doubt he wouldn't appeal this hard to emotion as scum.

On March 16 2015 09:21 Palmar wrote:
I am not convinced rayn is mafia. But there is plenty of time to find out.

On March 16 2015 09:22 Palmar wrote:
Why would you lynch me Onegu?

On March 16 2015 09:22 Palmar wrote:
Quick response please

On March 16 2015 18:45 Palmar wrote:
##unvote
##vote Onegu

For wanting to lynch me without having a reason to do so.

On March 16 2015 19:37 Palmar wrote:

Apparently I was overstating marv's townread on prplhz, so much that he felt like he needed to correct me in saying prplhz is guaranteed town. This caused me to start reading prplhz's filter which I'm not nearly done with but I saw these posts:





It's not the fact he was wrong, it just feels out of place to defend someone this super early in the game.

On March 16 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:

Tell me why Onegu is mafia?

On my "not lynch list" at the moment (this is a very fluid list)

Palmar
Koshi
prplhz
FF

That leaves

Eden
rayn
Marv
Onegu

On March 16 2015 21:45 Palmar wrote:
I still can't shake this weird feeling that marv is sort of fine with this game being a bit of a train wreck. Like I can't quite explain it and I'm not going to call him mafia for it, but it's just this weird feeling I have.

On March 17 2015 01:31 Palmar wrote:
Like just to make you feel uncomfortable about it, I really want to kill onegu too. The problem here is that I feel like that would be conceding to the "simple" solution, which I guess isn't a bad thing. It just feels wrong to do it.

And even then, who is his partner? FF? Eden?

On March 17 2015 07:01 Palmar wrote:
Also, I don't want to kill onegu unless I'm sure, because I know if I don't hit mafia today, I'm 100% fucked because of massive lynch inertia.

I, more than anyone else, need a mafia lynch today.

On March 17 2015 07:10 Palmar wrote:
I don't really know Onegu that well. Generally he seems sort of too trolly to be mafia.

On the other hand, the fact that he:

1. promised read on rayn
2. delivered read on rayn

is actually really scummy, because he framed his play and then played exactly to fit that frame. Like it's not an organic read at all, it's manufactured.

On March 17 2015 07:48 Palmar wrote:
I need to do things and then sleep.

I feel like today I've established that I don't want to lynch me/koshi/ff, marv is a wildcard, I want to lynch onegu and prplhz I'm somewhere in the middle, leaning towards not lynching. tomorrow I will read rayn and eden and come to some kind of a conclusion.

I'll probably refresh before sleeping so I can answer whatever you might ask.

On March 17 2015 07:52 Palmar wrote:
oh and

##unvote
##vote Onegu

On March 17 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Good talk while I slept guys

On March 17 2015 18:39 Palmar wrote:


To follow up on this, I went to sleep last night feeling fairly confident rayn is town. I am going to summarize what I'm talking about here later today (I've got two meetings etc coming up, so I can't right now).

So until further notice, rayn is off the lynch table, and my table looks like this:

Do not lynch:

Koshi
FF
rayn

Maaybe lynch (but probably not)

prplhz

Wildcard bitches!

marv

Lynch:

Onegu

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I need to read Eden, he's the one I have done little to none work on. @Eden I didn't notice you answering my question regarding your comment about marv/jat interaction from back on day 1.

On March 17 2015 23:26 Palmar wrote:


This is actually a fantastic post.

On March 17 2015 23:27 Palmar wrote:
Like the way he treats himself in comparison to JAT feels very much not mafia because it's not really a bus, more of a self-defense, when with perfect information he would probably be tempted to actually bus here.

On March 18 2015 06:12 Palmar wrote:

This one?

Like I keep trying to reconcile your thing you did when I was trying to get discussion going with you with you being town. It doesn't fit.

If you think I'm town, you know that I can be a half-decent scumhunter when I put my mind to it and you know I can help you. In addition you don't seem very confident in your read of the state of the game so in theory you do need help. So even if I'm a flawed town player, I'm not terrible. There is literally no reason for you as town to instead of repeatedly going "I can't take anything you say seriously" to just extend a hand and see what is out there.

On the other hand, if you think I'm mafia, there is obviously no point in talking to me, but why didn't you say so then? That would've been much easier.

On March 18 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:
Why is Eden checking out of this shitshow! I thought this would be right up his alley

On March 18 2015 06:44 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar is town.

Eden is mafia.

On March 18 2015 06:56 Palmar wrote:
This has like a 1% chance of actually working. But at least it's quality TV.

On March 18 2015 07:06 Palmar wrote:
we're having ourselves marv-pie tomorrow.

On March 18 2015 17:40 Palmar wrote:

You say that as you make a case on me who is confirmed town.

On March 19 2015 00:59 Palmar wrote:
I'm so sad that marv loves rayn more than me that now I'm like questioning the marv-pie because this is the most genuine he's been all game trying to figure shit out.

also I'm a bit sad that I literally said onegu was mafia but voted with my heart instead of with my brain.

On March 19 2015 05:41 Palmar wrote:
Like I feel like I'm going to get somewhat vindicated unless Eden (or rayn, I guess, but I'm sorta ignoring that option) is mafia.

If it's Eden I've been pushing townies left and right and now I'm talking myself into townreading scum again.
If it's rayn Koshi and Eden are somewhat vindicated (and marv from day 1 I suppose).

If it's FF we lose and everyone is shit.
If it's Koshi we lose and everyone is shit.

If it's marv I'm super vindicated and town hero
if it's prplhz at least my primary reason for starting to suspect marv was legit as fuck.