Like you have set yourself up into an endgame where you can bring up posts from the whole game to call whoever mafia because you said "something smart at some point".

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2015 16:24 GMT

#6438

On March 24 2015 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
I can help you with your case on rayn. Not whether I believe it or not. Further things (on top of the things I mentioned before) that I found odd, and haven't really been expanded on that much.

(1) Remember when Koshi got mad that rayn wouldn't clarify his claim, and claimed himself? And rayn still wouldn't clarify forever, before finally claiming VT. But it went on for ages, and the thread was turning to shit. If you're actually VT, the right play is to simply put your hands up much sooner and say "ok ok, i'm VT, I fakeclaimed to secure the lynch", rather than drag it out for so long.

(2) rayn went from voting you at the start of yesterday to being "absolutely convinced" that Eden was mafia. I don't believe it was in any way possible to be convinced that Eden was mafia.

In fact I afked from the thread because I knew I'd just double guess myself constantly, and my vote would be moving around on a whim. (that's why i appeared at deadline almost exactly).

(3) It's actually the correct mafia play to appear certain that one person is mafia, so it doesn't look like you're hedging. I just don't think it was warranted that Eden was definitely mafia yesterday, at all.

(1) I made the correcty play and Koshi ruined it. Well in hindsight he didn't ruin it as he was not the veteran but a cop, but i made the correct play as town and i stand by it. You are wrong here marv.
(2) Yes i was convinced Eden is mafia. Why wouldn't i be? Palmar was seemingly trying to figure out who is scum, Eden just called everyone mafia without any logic. I thought he was scum and Palmar was town.
(3) See (2). I call people who i think are mafia mafia. It is simple.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2015 16:25 GMT

#6439

Palmar did you believe i am a doctor on N1?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2015 16:28 GMT

#6440

On March 23 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote:
meh.

i've been through a bunch of palmar scum games and he doesn't really poke at his team mates like he did at jat. he simply does not call them scum until wayyyyy later into the game. i don't know, maybe he doesn't want to start fighting with his team early on when he can just... not do that. i read all back to the one with giggletummy and vivax and ... darthpunk? palmar just doesn't really call his team mates scum. this is kind of just confirming palmar's first point in his town case.. however palmar has been somewhat useless this game, only good point is the one on onegu but then he neither voted or pushed onegu at all.

at the same time, rayn didn't really push any of his team mates. it was him or jat on d1 so duh and he never really wanted to lynch onegu, pushing eden that day. objectively rayn has been a lot more useful for town though but i guess this is pretty obvious.

like, d1 lynch was koshi and a bit of rayn. d2 lynch was everybody piling on pickles. d3 was last minute wtf sheep FF. d4 was everybody getting rid of eden because he had gone off the deep end.

anyway i'm pretty confused. my brain says palmar but my heart says rayn.

Jesus christ prplhz, you kinda need to read the game again if you think this is true...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2015 16:35 GMT

#6441

I was NEVER pushing Eden on D3. I only switched my vote because FF and marv did. I thought Eden was mafia on D3, i said so. I wanted to lynch Onegu. If my play is to bus Onegu why the hell do i not take the credit and yell people to lynch him?

I thought they were both mafia near the end D3. I had been pushing Onegu all day long. I had been figuring out which of you two (you and Eden) is the other scum. I came to a conclusion that it's Eden. Then marv switched. I followed him because i didn't think i could get Onegu lynched if i did not have him there too and Koshi was voting for prplhz and i don't even know where everyone else was at that time.