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On March 19 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like Palmar. From your D3 i read it looks like you are trying to make marv contribute. Okay that's fine. When he doesn't work like you want him to you start..idk.. try to convince him he is mafia? Then you vote for him while saying he is a wildcard and Onegu is mafia, when marv is lynching Onegu....
I can't understand this. I talk to marv somewhat differently than most other people. He'll tell you that what I was doing was a fairly normal attempting to read him while slowly talking myself in one way or the other. Also, you know I don't make associative reads, or at least not in the way you're implying I should have. My main point is i never got the feeling you were trying to convince the rest of the people marv is mafia, only him.
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Like there is no big conclusion like the superbia case a couple games before. In my opinion, if you found out (in the end) that marv is mafia you would be proud of your read and present it in a manner you'd expect other people to acknowledge it (in a way or another). The only person you are trying to convince here is Koshi, whe can be swung to whatever dumb shit anyways in this game it seems like.
If i am wrong tell me where i am wrong, but that's what i see...
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On March 19 2015 02:32 marvellosity wrote: if you were never certain on me, why didn't you vote Onegu ;( this
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no, not really given the things you said in thread on D3.
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On March 19 2015 02:40 Palmar wrote: I think I asked this yesterday.
Is there ANYONE in the thread that thought Onegu was town?
Isn't it absolutely clear that whoever Onegu's partner is, bussed him? Did you see how much resistance there was regarding lynching Onegu? Even when you count Koshi out. There were wagons on prplhz, marv and Eden (even me). Like i don't understand how you can even come to that conclusion.
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Like every single person was a viable lynch candidate at some point of the day except for: Palmar Koshi FF.
And your argument is "Onegu was definitely bussed"???
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On March 19 2015 02:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 02:40 Palmar wrote: I think I asked this yesterday.
Is there ANYONE in the thread that thought Onegu was town?
Isn't it absolutely clear that whoever Onegu's partner is, bussed him? Did you see how much resistance there was regarding lynching Onegu? Even when you count Koshi out. There were wagons on prplhz, marv and Eden (even me). Like i don't understand how you can even come to that conclusion. sure, but just about everyone on those alternate wagons was all like "yeah but Onegu is probably mafia too". He was being actively called mafia by his partner, whether or not his partner voted for him I don't know. If I am mafia here rayn, do you think I actually thought marv was going to be lynched when the Eden wagon disintegrated and I went back to marv? no, probably not but what does it matter? Like you do not gain any credit for voting Onegu at that point if you are mafia because you have been pushing everything else the whole day anyways...
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Do you still think marv is mafia?
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On March 19 2015 03:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you still think marv is mafia? It's a possibility. I think it's less likely than I thought it was yesterday. The how does it make sense you say "i thought two people are scum, Onegu and marv and i pushed the "wrong" one" if your original assumption is they could very well be scum together?
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On March 19 2015 03:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 03:03 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2015 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you still think marv is mafia? It's a possibility. I think it's less likely than I thought it was yesterday. The how does it make sense you say "i thought two people are scum, Onegu and marv and i pushed the "wrong" one" if your original assumption is they could very well be scum together? Well one of them is confirmed mafia, and the other one is now less likely to be mafia than I previously thought. Why this? Like you literally give no implication of "if one of them is mafia the other one is not". Why does this apply now?
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On March 19 2015 03:23 Palmar wrote: My filter. Page 29. First three posts on page.
I'd quote them for you but while of course it matters somewhat. Onegu flipping doesn't really have much to do with what I think of Marv
On March 19 2015 03:24 Palmar wrote: Eh that was a confusing post. I'm on phone will talk later. But I think you' get the idea yeah it was.  it doesn't really say anything to me. I don't get the idea.
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Quoted for end game credits:
On March 10 2015 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes. I am the sexiest. Or maybe marv.
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On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote: Ray what exactly do/did you need explained? Marv too. I know the ritoky thing is one. What else?
My post you answered already. I don't buy it. Your answer to me reads like "i don't do these things as scum, only as town" which does not really say why you did those things in this game.
Also who is mafia and why?
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Like Onegu didn't do the things he did in this game as scum either. If we believed him he would never be lynched. So your reasoning isn't really good Eden. I want some real reasoning behind your actions i find irrational.
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On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote: Also marv just cuz Onegu is a busser doesn't mean he always busses. I will need to look at his past games but I've seen Onegu be mafia once or twice before. I don't remember him bussing a partner the whole time and not ever doing anything else. I am not sure where you (or marv) are getting with this but: Onegu bussed (similar to JAT in this game on D1) batsnacks quite hardcore in his last mafia game.
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EBWOP: well i am not sure if that was his last mafia game but the last one i remember playing with him in where he was mafia.
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Eden: - why do you give reasons for ritoky to be mafia with JAT then read him town? - why did you want to lynch ritoky on D1 with your scumread JAT? - why do you instantly vote for Palmar for his claim on D2? - On D2 you HC scumread Damdred and Onegu, then you go to Palmar + marv being mafia. Why? - also what marv asked you
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yeah yeah i said that all already, now move on.
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On March 19 2015 04:28 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote: Also marv just cuz Onegu is a busser doesn't mean he always busses. I will need to look at his past games but I've seen Onegu be mafia once or twice before. I don't remember him bussing a partner the whole time and not ever doing anything else. I am not sure where you (or marv) are getting with this but: Onegu bussed (similar to JAT in this game on D1) batsnacks quite hardcore in his last mafia game. marv is arguing Onegu busses hard and thus that I shouldn't just assume prplhz is town. I need to look at his previous games and see for myself, I guess. It just seems counterintuitive that someone would bus as hard as Onegu did unnecessarily. but i want to talk about this. why was i mafia at some point if this is what you think?
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well you're not going to be nightkilled so step up then. now gimme a sec to answer your post before.
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