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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 15:59 GMT
#5344
I'm so sad that marv loves rayn more than me that now I'm like questioning the marv-pie because this is the most genuine he's been all game trying to figure shit out.

also I'm a bit sad that I literally said onegu was mafia but voted with my heart instead of with my brain.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:03 GMT
#5349
On March 19 2015 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar who is mafia and why?

I currently don't know.

I was fairly convinced it was marv. Now I'm less sure.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:09 GMT
#5351
Like very little has changed since this post.

On March 17 2015 21:02 Palmar wrote:
I believe rayn is town based on the way he handled JAT day 1.

I believe Koshi is town for killing JAT and because he's one of our only 2 claimed blues.

I believe FF is town because CENSORED

I know I am town

I believe prplhz is town because marv thinks he's town. This is basically regardless of marv's alignment.

I don't know what Eden is

I believe marv is a bit of a wildcard, but I don't think he's actively trying to figure the game out, despite me reaching out repeatedly today to try to get things done.

I believe Onegu is mafia


I did like Eden's comments about marv handling JAT with kid gloves, and I also said that his JAT thing didn't look very bussy at all, but as I mentioned during the lynch hour last night I was missing him at that time. Overall slightly less likely to be mafia.

Marv is less likely to be mafia too, mostly for tonight, much less for voting the correct wagon yesterday (that's easy enough to do...).

So, by PoE it's probably me?

BUT

I already said there needs to be extra work done, now we have more information. there's approximately 0% chance I'll get shot tonight, and even if I do that last post is pretty good to show you where I stand.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:09 GMT
#5352
On March 19 2015 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what have you been doing since the phase change then?

Nothing really, I've mostly taken the day off.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:10 GMT
#5353
I did work extremely hard monday and tuesday, and I expect having to work hard again tomorrow, so I'm probably not going to do much today.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:11 GMT
#5354
Hold a gun to my head and tell me to shoot one person as mafia right now or I get killed, and I would probably shoot prplhz.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:12 GMT
#5355
I do like the fact that both marv and you seem to have realized this game is far, far, far out of the range of my mafia play.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:15 GMT
#5359
On March 19 2015 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but i want you to play and say smart stuff.
no laziness approved now Palmar.

I'm sorry but yes. I am not going to play much today. I generally don't compromise on the time I have available to play mafia. I did play too much over the past 2 days and I am, like it or not, going to take today and tonight off to do real life things. So I'm not doing any research today. I might respond occasionally, but I'm not going to be re-reading and researching.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:17 GMT
#5360
On March 19 2015 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:
I do like the fact that both marv and you seem to have realized this game is far, far, far out of the range of my mafia play.

Sad you don't realise the same

I just think you're a lot better at mafia than me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:20 GMT
#5364
On March 19 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to fucking hate this town for being lazy if we lose this game...

There is no way this town loses for being lazy rayn, stop being overdramatic.

If this town loses it's to amazing mafia play. We killed 2/3 of the mafia in 3 days with only a single mislynch on some guy who trolled (much harder than I did) throughout half the game.

There are 7 people alive, 1 of which is mafia. Every single one is in double digit pages of filter length. There IS enough evidence in the thread, we just need to find it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:22 GMT
#5365
On March 19 2015 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 01:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:
I do like the fact that both marv and you seem to have realized this game is far, far, far out of the range of my mafia play.

Sad you don't realise the same

I just think you're a lot better at mafia than me.

that doesn't change the point though.

let's say your mafia range is 0-30 and you are playing at 50

my mafia range is 0-60 and I am playing at 85

the result is still the same.

Numbers are purely illustrative

For the sake of this argument I'll assume you're town.

My mafia range is maybe 0-30 and I'm playing at 85
your mafia range is maybe 0-60 and you're playing at 85

See how it changes? suddenly it should be a lot more obvious that I am town, if you get what I mean?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:24 GMT
#5367
On March 19 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 01:20 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to fucking hate this town for being lazy if we lose this game...

There is no way this town loses for being lazy rayn, stop being overdramatic.

If this town loses it's to amazing mafia play. We killed 2/3 of the mafia in 3 days with only a single mislynch on some guy who trolled (much harder than I did) throughout half the game.

There are 7 people alive, 1 of which is mafia. Every single one is in double digit pages of filter length. There IS enough evidence in the thread, we just need to find it.

Actually that isn't the problem, the problem is the opposite. The problem is there is so much evidence. Not that there's so much it's hard to look through (although maybe) but because you will always end up with conflicting things and you end up trying to weigh relative merits of things.

Like I can make really excellent towncases on everyone alive.

But one is wrong

Yes, obviously.

I'm just pointing out we're actually quite fortunate the game won't come down to us lynching 2-3 afk townies in a row which is the definition of a game lost to laziness.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:26 GMT
#5369
On March 19 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 01:22 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:
I do like the fact that both marv and you seem to have realized this game is far, far, far out of the range of my mafia play.

Sad you don't realise the same

I just think you're a lot better at mafia than me.

that doesn't change the point though.

let's say your mafia range is 0-30 and you are playing at 50

my mafia range is 0-60 and I am playing at 85

the result is still the same.

Numbers are purely illustrative

For the sake of this argument I'll assume you're town.

My mafia range is maybe 0-30 and I'm playing at 85
your mafia range is maybe 0-60 and you're playing at 85

See how it changes? suddenly it should be a lot more obvious that I am town, if you get what I mean?

I was going to reply but it will end up in a pointless discussion about semantics and poking fun, and well, meh :>

I'll take that as you admitting I won this argument.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 16:55 GMT
#5375
On March 19 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
then say something.
like i can't believe neither of you three fail to do anything without being prodded to do something.
it's really BS.

Read my entire filter from yesterday if you need something from me.

prodding has nothing to do with it. You can "prod" me tomorrow and suddenly I'll be doing things "because you prodded me". I'm taking a day off because I don't want to spend time playing right now.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:11 GMT
#5378
On March 19 2015 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah here is one thing:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 07:01 Palmar wrote:
Also, I don't want to kill onegu unless I'm sure, because I know if I don't hit mafia today, I'm 100% fucked because of massive lynch inertia.

I, more than anyone else, need a mafia lynch today.

and i don't think you cared that much about lynching mafia.

I can't change what you think. I know I did, and I'm telling you I did.

Yes, Onegu checked all the mafia boxes as I explained. I just wanted to be sure.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:14 GMT
#5379
On March 19 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Palmar. From your D3 i read it looks like you are trying to make marv contribute. Okay that's fine. When he doesn't work like you want him to you start..idk.. try to convince him he is mafia? Then you vote for him while saying he is a wildcard and Onegu is mafia, when marv is lynching Onegu....

I can't understand this.

I talk to marv somewhat differently than most other people. He'll tell you that what I was doing was a fairly normal attempting to read him while slowly talking myself in one way or the other.

Also, you know I don't make associative reads, or at least not in the way you're implying I should have.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:30 GMT
#5382
On March 19 2015 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Palmar. From your D3 i read it looks like you are trying to make marv contribute. Okay that's fine. When he doesn't work like you want him to you start..idk.. try to convince him he is mafia? Then you vote for him while saying he is a wildcard and Onegu is mafia, when marv is lynching Onegu....

I can't understand this.

I talk to marv somewhat differently than most other people. He'll tell you that what I was doing was a fairly normal attempting to read him while slowly talking myself in one way or the other.

Also, you know I don't make associative reads, or at least not in the way you're implying I should have.

My main point is i never got the feeling you were trying to convince the rest of the people marv is mafia, only him.

Because I was never certain. I'm still not certain on his alignment one way or the other.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:32 GMT
#5384
The superbia case was something else. That game was a game that suited me very well. A very slow moving game I had time to play with lots of opportunities for reading and re-reading. I am better in that kind of a scenario. This is also probably why I am generally better at day 1 than later days, because I work by far the best when I can easily grasp ALL the information in the thread.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:32 GMT
#5385
On March 19 2015 02:32 marvellosity wrote:
if you were never certain on me, why didn't you vote Onegu ;(

Because big plays.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:36 GMT
#5387
On March 19 2015 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
no, that's not why you are better at Day 1s dear. Maybe a small part, but that really is not why.

I'm intrigued, why am I better at day 1s in your opinion?

I mean I understand the main part is that I have no biases so it allows me to look completely objectively on the game, whereas later I keep trying to lynch people who disagree with me or call me mafia. But having a full grasp of a game definitely helps.
Computer says mafia
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